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All Forum Posts by: Tucker Cummings

Tucker Cummings has started 52 posts and replied 424 times.

Post: Investors who started in late 30’s with multiple children

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 743
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:
Originally posted by :

Hello All,

Josh and I are newbies to real estate. We are absorbing as much information as possible and setting goals. We are currently in our late 30’s and have 4 school age children. Over the past year we have been able to increase our savings and continue to work on our financial IQ. We have a general idea that we’d like to invest in North Carolina. Our issue is capital, we don’t have a lot of it.

Are there any investors that have a similar late start like we do, who’d be willing to share some tips or tricks?

Learning so much and so grateful for this community.

Thanks

The Masser’s

We started in our 30s with kids, too.  Never too late.

We wanted freedom so bad we drove beaters and bought a doublewide in a park after putting a Heloc on our house.   Our shelter costs were less than $300/mo for 5 years. 

We questioned every purchase and payment.  Is that getting us closer to freedom? What's in your driveway now? 

I became educated on all things creative like seller financing  options, lease options, assignments, sub2s and wraps.  These came in handy during the GRC, but not as useful since 2015 so don't worry about all that yet. 

What has been consistent has been the need to sow the seeds for off-market deals. Retail with realtors will not get you there. Get to know the landlords / owners in your target neighborhood.  They should be calling you when they've had it.

Takes time farming in your backyard, so general out of area markets will be a huge hurdle.  Maybe wholesalers and creative agents can help source off-market deals  when you're ready.  I have zero OOS experience, but do make it in an expensive market solo dealing directly w8th owners. 

 Steve said it all. Cut your expenses as much as possible, sell your cars to drive more fuel efficient ones or ones that you can get some cash through an exchange. (I had an '04 Toyota Tacoma that I LOVED. I sold it so I could get a little sedan. That saved me $200/month in gas. Maybe one day I'll be wealthy enough for a truck again lol). Think about downsizing your home for lower payments, house hacking and/or moving closer to your job so you can save time and gas. These are painful, but they help save some household operating costs. Lastly, comb through your bills and see if there's anything you can cut. 

Once expense are out, think about increasing your income. Maybe look at getting into a sales job in an industry you like or pick up a side hustle. Also, don't be afraid to put some money in the stock market. I like dividend stocks, index funds and mutual funds  (I like AT&T, Verizon, Pfizer & TQQQ) because they're less volatile and they cash flow. You may not get a huge return, but at least your money isn't in the bank losing value. You can accumulate some appreciation (hopefully) in the stock market and then cash out for your down payment.

Lastly, as Steve said, start networking ASAP. If you want to go far in Real Estate, it's a team sport. Network with property managers, other investors, wholesalers, agents, contractors, etc. You never know who might have a deal for you.

Post: single family vs multi family

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 743

@Patrick Flanagan there are lots of great markets and everybody has an opinion on every market. You just have to do your own DD to decide if it's a good market. I would first look at if the target market is within 30 minutes of a major metropolitan area with lots of diverse jobs. Large military bases and colleges are also good areas to take a look at too. This will help you identify that there is money in the area and stability. Past that, I would just look at purchase to rent ratios.

There are so many metrics people look into, but really I would advise just not to overcomplicate it.

Post: My 3rd successful long distance BRRRR in Huntsville!

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 743

Nice! Love hearing stories of people pull off great deals. Can't wait to hear about the next one!

Post: single family vs multi family

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
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In a nutshell, single families can have longer staying tenants and possibly stronger appreciation. I say possibly very cautiously. For example, I had properties appreciate 15% last year just because other properties sold for more. I didn't do anything, it's just increasing prices, so that's kind of nice. From a competition standpoint, you're going to be competing against every investor and homebuyer, so competition is higher. It's also more liquid and you can convert into cash more easily by selling or refinancing.

Multifamily usually has stronger cash flow, but you control the appreciation rate through increasing NOI. From a competition standpoint, you'll be competing against few buyers, but the buyers might be more savvy. The seller is also probably more savvy too. The downside is that the tenants might not stay for long, and you might have more problem tenants. Again, "might," not definitely. If you need cash, it might be difficult to convert the asset to cash though.

I invest in single family right now, but I'm actively trying to get into multifamily more quickly. The opportunities there just seem to be more stable and make more sense. Though I think it's good to have a healthy mix of both.

Post: Financing a New Build

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 743

I’m looking at property that would probably be best torn down and I’m wondering what the financing process looks like for a new build.

Let's say I want to tear down a SFR then build a small Multifamily on it. Are their bank or credit union options typically available for something like that? If so, what are they?

Am I even asking the right question? How do others go about financing something like this?

Post: Starting My Real Estate Portfolio

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 743

@Ryan DiCanio several ways you can find off market deals. Connect with other wholesalers and investors, you can drive for dollars, send direct mail, make cold calls, build a website and drive traffic through SEO and paid advertising, etc. The only marketing forms I advise against are bandit signs, ringless voicemail (rvm) and text blasting (sms). It just comes off as super spammy and can build a bad brand name, plus bandit signs are basically advertising by littering. 

Good luck!

Post: How to influence appraisal

Tucker CummingsPosted
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  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
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In the word's of Ron Burgundy, @J Scott is "kind of a big deal" so let's all pay attention when we see him in the forum!

I can personally attest to his post and linked forum.

- Provide Information

- Build Trust

- Build Rapport

Last year I was getting a home appraised and I met the appraiser at the house. We spent the first 20 minutes talking about his kids and grandkids, how he was getting out of a messy divorce, but met the love of his life at the age of 62 and, as a matter of fact, he started crying just talking to me about how joyful he was with his fiance. We talked about a handful of other things, but this was some strong rapport we we're building... it's not every day a stranger cries in my house!

I let him do his thing around the house, walked it with him, answered questions honestly, asked about how he got into the appraisal business, etc. Throughout this just "being a good dude" and welcoming to him, it seemed like we had built up a level of trust. I felt like he could tell I cared about this house and what it meant to me.

Lastly, as we we're wrapping up, we convened in the driveway and I just asked him, "So what do you think this house should appraise for?" He said, "Well, just first glimpse, I think it's around 260k based on the comps and what you've done with the place." My response was, "Man... that's disappointing, I was really hoping for about 275k. You know, I really appreciate you coming here and doing this. I don't want to tell you how to do your job, but if you have a chance to look it over I put together this packet of the comps in the neighborhood, before pictures of my house and a list of all the repairs we've done to it since we got it. I thought it might make things a little easier for you." (Provide information"

He said, "I appreciate that and I'm not too proud to take a look at what you've got."

Appraisal came in a few days later for 277k!! Was it totally based on the conversation we had and the information I provided? I like to think so, but I can't be certain. What I do know is if I hadn't met him and talked with him, provided information, etc. and the appraisal still came in at 277k, I'd be sitting here thinking, "geez... maybe if I had done the extra credit work, I could have got 285k!"


Hope this helps and Good luck! 

Post: Starting My Real Estate Portfolio

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 743

My advice:

1) Acknowledge the seller's market, know that it's going to be tough to get good deals on the MLS. So open your funnel to off market deals.

2) People will always tell you its a good time to get in, a good time to get out, a good time to buy, a good time to sell, a good time to wait, a good time to act. Do what you want, just be smart and calculated about it.

3) Get educated. Ditch music, listen to podcasts. Ditch news feeds & social media (unless marketing) and start reading books and blogs about investing.

4) Try house hacking your first one. That's my biggest financial regret, that I didn't do this.

5) Acknowledge that you're going to mess up. It's part of the process and its the cost of your education by doing.

6) Just do it. Don't overthink stuff. You'll learn the most by doing.

Post: Tax benefits from RE investing in high income earners.

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 743
Originally posted by @Ashish Acharya:
Originally posted by @Jose Contreras:

Hello everyone,

We recently started investing in real estate in 2020. We are buy and hold investors and currently have 2 doubles in the cleveland area. We got into investing for it's wealth building annd tax benefits. We also really enjoy it. We hold our properties in an LLC.

Anyhow we are considered by many high income earners, over $400k combined on W2s. Our CPA just completed our taxes for 2020 and our tax bill is quite sizeable and we are not seeing any benefit whatsoever from our real estate activity. He tells us that since we are high income earners, >150k per year, our real estate activity is considered passive and we cannot take any of those benefits .

"LLC is there just to title those properties and to provide you with liability protection. This activity is treated as passive, and you can deduct losses just if your income is under $150k... To get those losses deducted in the current year when income is above $150K, you need to qualify as Real Estate Professional. Based on what you are doing professionally and what you are doing for those properties you can not pass that test. Having or not having LLC has nothing to do with this because the rental activity is by default passive activity."

While I understand that having an LLC makes no difference for tax purposes. We do manage our own properties including driving to and from the properties for showings and have spent a good amount of capital on repairs and maintenance.

Has anyone on the forum had any experience with this? I would love to hear what everyone thinks about this.

Thanks!

Yes, this is correct. We see this every day.  You will not see the short-term benefit from the losses generated via depreciation becuase you make so much money.  However, when you dispose of the property, the suspended losses will help you reduce your taxes then. You don't lose the deduction, it is just suspended now. I have seen many high earners plan the investments in such a way that they will periodically dispose of the properties to reduce taxes in the future. You have to sit with your advisor and plan that out. Remember, the taxes shouldn't be the sole driver of your disposal decisions.

There are ways to convert some of your expenses as active income via a property management company. This has to be planned out. 

If you want to benefit from the losses now, you or your spouse would have to be a real estate professional. 

 I'm in a similar situation... made just over 150k last year so I didn't make the cut. 

I'm in a similar situation... made just over 150k last year so I didn't make the cut. But your response brings about another question - you mentioned the depreciation is suspended. Let's say I leave my W2 job in 2 years and my depreciation from my properties has been suspended for 3 years. Does that mean I can take the depreciation all at once for the cumulative 3 prior years? So if I have a property worth 275k, at the end of the 3 years I could take a loss for 30k, after leaving my W2. Am I reading that right?

I also hold my properties in an LLC.

Post: What Do Ya'll Think About the Housing Situation?

Tucker CummingsPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 743

Just looking at several indicators, we're seeing low inventory across the board, inflation around the corner, interest rates staying low, people going back to work... I'm sure there are other factors at play but it looks like everything is pointing towards further increasing home prices with no real reason for it to come down. If I had to take a stab at it, I'd predict the middle class is going to get priced out of homeownership. Not totally... but if you're a first time home buyer, moving because of a job, etc. you're going to have a tough time. 

My sister, who is already a homeowner, is going through this right now. Have to relocate because of a job change, nothing for sale on the traditional market, pretty much getting forced into a rental where her equity is going to get quickly leached off. 

As investors we can find the off market deals, get some cheaper prices, get creative for deals, use the equity/cash flow/private lenders we already have to get more deals... so I'm not really feeling bad for investors, I'll keep finding and buyer off market deals. I just wonder how this is going to affect the middle class.

What do ya'll think? (please no political comments)