All Forum Posts by: Thomas L.

Hi @Guillaume Elleboudt. I know what you mean. When I listened to the podcast it all seemed so easy in the US. And comparing that to our country, the results were very different. But once I started to figure out that real estate can be interesting here too, but the rules are just different, I started to find really good deals. But in Belgium you really don't want to start an LLC or anything for your real estate, but just buy it in your own name, which is much more profitable.

No Antwerp is just the area I am familiar with :) I really need to know for what prices houses are selling and renting out in the area to quickly recognize a good deal, so that's why I stick to the Antwerp province. But here 99% of deals are also not good at all. I just look at so many of them that I sometimes find really good ones.

What about you? Are you looking to buy real estate too or lend money to investors or..?

Hi @Quod L. , @Guillaume Elleboudt, @Christine Kankowski and @Nuno Leitao

Cool to find other Belgians on the forum :) I just did my first post here on the forum but have been listening to the podcast for a while now and about to do my first deal here in Belgium.
Good luck guys!

Hi BP'ers! Let me introduce myself :)

I am a 25 yo Belgian dude from the Antwerp area, now looking for my first multifamily property. I am looking for a 2-5 unit property with 8-10% gross return.

I know that a lot of you guys are looking for 12% + deals, and use the 1% or even 2% rule, but in Belgium, the real estate market is a little different. Which is awesome btw :) I'm not complaining at all. But it might be interesting for you guys to see what the market looks like overseas. 

• expensive housing: Belgium is a reaaalllyyy small country, with way too many people living there. The population density is 10x as high as in the US (372 vs 35 per sq. km), so properties are quite expensive. In the Antwerp area, where I am looking to buy, the price for a small (1-2 bedroom) appartment is about 120-150k. That's in euros, so x1.2 for dollar amounts. For a small single family house you easily pay 250-300k euros.
• low rent: renting out that same 150k appartment will make you about 600-650 euros/m, which is still decent. Renting out that 250k house on the other hand, will only make you about 750- 850 euros. That's only a 3 - 3.5% gross return for landlords..
• high acquisition costs: for a rental property, you will pay 10% "registration costs" on top of the purchase price. Add notary costs, mortgage costs, etc and you will often end up with 13-15% acquisition costs on top of the purchase price. Remember that 250k small single family house? Add about 35-37k acquisition costs to it that you will have to pay out of pocket.

So why would I still want to invest in real estate? Because we can still make 50% return on investment (ROI) per year. Here is why.

• cheap loans! This is the big one. If, like me, you take your time to compare banks and mortgage brokers, you might be able to find a loan at about 2% fixed interest. Recently I found a bank who eventually offered me a variable interest rate of 1.18%! Worst case scenario, that interest rate can double to 2.36% in a couple of years, but hey that's still incredibly low. And it won't make my montly payments more expensive. The extra interest cost will only add some extra months to my 20 or 25 year loan.
• 100% loans! For every property I will have to pay the acquisition costs, but after a long search I found a couple of banks who offered to loan me the full purchase price, over a period of 20 to 25 years.

If I combine those 2, that means that for a 200k property, I only pay off about 750 euros/month (4.5%) over a 25y period. Add an extra 1 or 2% for all kinds of costs like property taxes and reparations. Total cost: +- 6%

So remember I said in the beginning that I would love to find a 9% ROI property? That property will cost me about 6% a year (which pays off the loan for me) and make me another 3% passive income on the total value of the property! On a 200k property, that means:

• 12k costs (loan, repairs, taxes etc)
• 6k extra income (€500 a month in the pocket)
• ROI on my acquisition costs (30k), the only thing I paid out of pocket = 6k (increasing) cash + 9k loan payoff + property appreciation makes an easy 50% ROI possible.

Rental prices will be indexed every year, so that number will rise and so will the value of the property, while the loan will always stay at €750/month.

Of course, the example above means I will have to find a property which makes about 1500/month rental income which is really hard but not impossible. I just keep searching through thousands of listings to find that one multi-family gem  ;)

That was it guys! Leave a comment or ask all your questions! 

Thomas