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All Forum Posts by: Victoria S.

Victoria S. has started 43 posts and replied 112 times.

Post: What Are Your Personal Goals for 2019?

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44
Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

My personal goal will be one of the most difficult to achieve. Slowing down and getting out of real estate investing.

Like many that have enough in life the drive to have more, or believe more is required,  is an addiction.

  Why are you trying to get out of real estate? 

Post: Real estate professional status

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44

My husband will be claiming this...he quit his job earlier this year. I am a high income earner. 

Post: Real estate professional status

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44

How many of you guys have claimed real estate professional status? Any suggestions or advice? 

Post: Appraisal came out 20k lower

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44
Originally posted by @Edward Liu:

Typically appraiser will try to get close to what your buying price so you can qualify for loans.  They don't just use comparison sales, typically also based on cash flow (market rents plus typically expenses) for rentals.  For all appraisals I have seen, they used more than 1 methods of estimate for rentals.  Did your appraisal used more than sales comp?  If not, maybe get another appraiser who is more familiar with rentals.   If based on multiple methods, still $20k below your purchase prices, then double check your cash flow calculations.  Likely your purchase price is truly high vs. market.  The numbers used by appraiser are typically very generous so you can get the loan.

He used 2 different approaches. The income based approach came out 30k higher than our purchase price. If you take the median of sales comparable approach and income based approach, we are paying exactly that! That’s why we are always confused!. 

Post: Leads on a great accountant!

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44

Any leads on a great accountant? 

TIA! 

Post: Appraisal came out 20k lower

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44
Originally posted by @Dan Barli:

Well, ultimately you have to decide if the numbers still make sense for you @Victoria S.. Appraisals are subjective, as we know. Further add to that the fact that there were not many comps for your appraiser to use. Are you buying this house for the cash flow? Or are you looking for the appreciation play? If the rents are still the same and your ROI remains where it was, then you can likely still get the same exact deal.

It is a 4 plex. We are buying purely for cash flow. The rents are great as is with CoC of 13%...and have room to go up on the rents.

Post: Appraisal came out 20k lower

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44

Thanks Mike! I feel as if the numbers are good on the property however it makes me nervous that the appraisal is so low. You always hear, never pay higher than the appraisal value (at least in residential properties). 

Post: Appraisal came out 20k lower

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44

We are under contract for a 4plex. The cash on cash comes out at 13%, taking into account vacancies, maintenance, HOA ect (I used very conservative numbers). The appraisal came back at 20k lower than the purchase price. The appraiser had a hard time finding sale sales comparables because only 2, 4 plexes sold within the last year in the area. so he did a sales comparable approach (which came out lower than the purchase price) and an income comparable approach (which came out 30k higher than purchase price). If you take the median of the 2 approaches, this is what we offered. If we pay 20k out of pocket the cash on cash goes down to 12%. The seller has pretty much said that he has cash buyers if we back out and will not go down on price. Has anyone ever run across this? If so, how would you handle this?

Post: Appraisal came out 20k lower

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44

We are under contract for a 4plex. The cash on cash comes out at 13%, taking into account vacancies, maintenance, HOA ect (I used very conservative numbers). The appraisal came back at 20k lower than the purchase price. The appraiser had a hard time finding sale sales comparables because only 2, 4 plexes sold within the last year in the area. so he did a sales comparable approach (which came out lower than the purchase price) and an income comparable approach (which came out 30k higher than purchase price). If you take the median of the 2 approaches, this is what we offered. If we pay 20k out of pocket the cash on cash goes down to 12%. The seller has pretty much said that he has cash buyers if we back out and will not go down on price. Has anyone ever run across this? If so, how would you handle this?

Post: KC, mo rental inspections

Victoria S.Posted
  • Overland park, KS
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 44

Thanks Steve...I am new to rentals in KC. I am under contract for a 4plex right now. And no I def don’t want to be a slumlord. better to fix as you go!