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All Forum Posts by: Tony Stephan

Tony Stephan has started 15 posts and replied 58 times.

Post: 16 Unit Value Add Multifamily Update - Metro Detroit Market

Tony Stephan
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  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Bjorn Ahlblad:

Congratulations to you both. REI powerhouses for sure! Done right this is a very rewarding business all the way around and you are a testimony to that. Hats off!!


 Completely agree! Thanks for the comment. :) 

Post: 16 Unit Value Add Multifamily Update - Metro Detroit Market

Tony Stephan
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  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @George Voutsinos:

I love this post.  I couldn't agree more with your crypto & 401k comments.  For the last month I've been exploring the idea of dumping my 401k into an apartment building.  Of course the numbers have to work but when I find it that's the game plan. 


 Glad it was helpful! Congrats to you for looking to get more out of your 401k. If you ever are looking to invest in metro-detroit let us know we work with a lot of out of state investors!

Post: 16 Unit Value Add Multifamily Update - Metro Detroit Market

Tony Stephan
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  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54

My wife Andrea own over 100 rental properties in Metro-Detroit...We chased this 16 unit down for TWO YEARS before finally getting the owner to sell it to us back in 2022.

It had A LOT of work that needed to be done:
- Tenants weren't paying rent on time or at all.
- Units were completely outdated and had deferred maintenace.
- It needed a community face lift and re-brand (was called windmill apartments....yuck.)

We came in and strategically worked our business plan:
- We upgraded the exterior including fresh paint, signage, and landscaping.
- We removed delinquent tenants and changed the community standards around to provide a safe and clean place of living.
- We've upgraded 75% of the units with fresh flooring, paint, cabinets, countertops, and appliances as needed.

When we took over the property the 16 units were producing around $9000/month in gross rent.

I just checked our rent roll today, and we just crossed $17,000 in gross income monthly! This property alone throws off a few thousand dollars in cash flow each month.

Listen, there's nothing more powerful for you and your family than investing in real estate.

You can't add value to your crypto.

You probably don't even know what your 401k is invested into (or, if you even SUPPORT the companies you're investing in.)

You can't add value to your Apple stock or Meta stock.

But you CAN buy a great property, fix it up, solve the problems, and INCREASE the value (and cash flow.) Have any questions about the deal? Post them below or DM me. We own a real estate brokerage in Birmingham MI and help investors get into cash flow rental properties like we do. If you ever need anything at all don't hesitate to reach out to us!


Post: SOLD! 12 units for $1.395M

Tony Stephan
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  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $900,000
Sale price: $1,395,000

SOLD! 12 units for $1.395M

Deal Breakdown Below:

Questions about this deal? Let me know!

Ready to get YOUR family a cash flow producing rental property? We are here to help! At The Stephan Group we don’t just SELL real estate. We OWN and OPERATE real estate so we teach you from our first hand experience.

DM me “RENTAL PROPERTY” to set up a goal setter call!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Good area with value add potential and poor previous operations/management. This was a management and operational play. The previous owner had delinquencies, vacancies, as well as deferred maintenance and very below market rents. We cleaned up the issues and problems, and maximized the income which increased my NOI.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Off market through a broker relationship.

How did you finance this deal?

80% LTV, 10 year fixed rate at 4.25%, 25 year AM with a local CU.

How did you add value to the deal?

Even though it was a great property with great cash flow, it was a bit far for us to continue to manage (1 hour away from our core properties.) and I maximized the NOI, so it was time to move on. Now, we will take the proceeds from this sale and move it into a larger deal to repeat the process again.

This is called VELOCITY of money - How fast can I trade up to bigger and bigger assets and use the same dollar over and over again to increase my net-worth, cash flow, and balance sheet.

What was the outcome?

Sold $1.395M

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Management is everything and operations is the key to success in multifamily. I would’ve negotiated harder on my purchase for seller concessions. There was a lot of deferred maintenance we had to clean up during our ownership that I should’ve negotiated credits for.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

The Stephan Group Real Estate

Post: Hello from Michigan!

Tony Stephan
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  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Gary Bennett:

Hello everyone! 

My name is Gary Bennett, I am 22 years old and am eager to get started in real estate. I will keep this post to the point/short and sweet. I am looking for a partner/partners and mentors to help me get my feet wet in real estate, as well as start building successful relationships/connections. I have grown up in "metro" Detroit area (Warren, Chesterfield, Macomb Twp) and for the past 3.5 years worked for a moving company in the same area doing sales and became a sales manager. Between growing up in these areas and my work experience going into 5-10+ different households a day I offer great market insight. I know these areas well, I am able to find correlations as to where people are moving out of/moving into. The demographics of each area, etc. I start my pre-licensing course next week to obtain a real estate license. I have listened to 100s of hours of pod casts/videos on real estate and the many different ways to do it and am excited to learn and grow in this space. 

A little bit about me is I have always been business minded since I was a kid. For as long as I could remember I never wanted to have a regular 9-5 and always had a goal of being wealthy. I graduated high school in 2019 and went on to college and gained two associates in business administrations, and general studies. I ultimately decided to leave because once I had to transfer to a university from my local community college to gain the 4 year degree the thought of going into student loan debt didn't sit right with me. I always wanted to pursue an entrepreneurial route and didn't believe I needed to go $30,000 into debt to get a piece of paper to do so. During the time I was in school I worked full time as a salesman, and currently sales manager for a moving/junk removal company in Macomb, MI. I also have done/tried many different side hustles throughout this period. I played baseball from the time I was 4 years old up until I was 17 years old, I also played basketball for a couple years, and quickly fell in love with golf after I was unable to play baseball anymore. I have an awesome girlfriend of almost 4 years and is a big motivator for me trying to become financially independent so I can provide her and my future family a great life. 

I look forward to connecting, growing, and learning with you all!


 Welcome! We are in Birmingham MI and own over 100 units personally in Metro-Detroit. We also own a brokerage and specialize in investors so don't hesitate to reach out if you need anything ever!

Post: Navigating Detroit's Market: Seeking Advice for a First-Time Real Estate Investor

Tony Stephan
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Greg Scott:

John:

As a Detroit native and real estate investor, I will share a word of caution. 

There is a vast difference between Metro Detroit and the City of Detroit.  Many people I know will not invest in the City of Detroit due to the large, incompetent, and arguably corrupt government.  Also, the nature of the neighborhood can change dramatically block by block.  While Michigan law is fairly landlord friendly, some judges, particularly in Detroit, are not.  Be very, very careful. That said, there are plenty of suburbs outside the city that may meet your criteria.

You should also know that real estate in Metro Detroit is cyclical, correlated with the ups and downs of the auto industry.  The best time to buy is during a recession and the best time to sell is when car sales are reaching new peaks.


 Preach! I love investing in Macomb and Oakland County (metro-detroit) and we own 100 + units in these areas. Safe, clean, cash flow, and steady appreciation.

Post: We fired our property manager and started self managing our 131 rental properties

Tony Stephan
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  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Tony Stephan:

Last year my wife and I made the BEST decision ever to fire our 3rd party property manager and create our own in house property management company for our 131 rental properties!

We've learned the MONEY IS MADE IN THE OPERATIONS when it comes to real estate investing. 

Post any questions or comments if you have them!

@Tony & Andrea StephanWhat would you say is the average monthly cash flow, before property management expences per property? $100 a month or $200 a month or $1,000 a month or somewhere in between? A lot of people getting into rentals may have a wildly misunderstood number in mind or no number at all.


 Depends on the property and the month. 

Post: We fired our property manager and started self managing our 131 rental properties

Tony Stephan
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Eric James:
Quote from @Tony Stephan:
Quote from @Eric James:

I self manage and absolutely agree. No one will be as efficient as an owner. It also doesn't take that much time.


 Yes sir!!!! How many units do you manage for your portfolio ?


 Currently have 27 units and it takes a few hours a week of my time. I spend the rest of my time building new units.


 Love it! Congrats 

Post: Do you stay away from listings where the house is fully remodelled

Tony Stephan
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Alex Clark:

Hey yall, so I'm looking around in Detroit, Michigan and Ohio i'm wondering if these listings where the house is fully remodelled are even worth it? There's a reason someone's selling it right? Most likely an investor who is trying to get rid of it. Or am I wrong?


 All depends on your strategy! My wife and I own 131 units in Metro-Detroit with our own capital and I own 3 houses that I didn't put much money into in Royal Oak...but I get steady cash flow every month. So, it ALL depends on YOUR goals. If you have questions or need help shoot me a DM!

Post: How Much Should I Pay for a CPA / Do I Even Need One?

Tony Stephan
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Mason Myers:

Hello all!

I'm a new investor in my 20's, getting ready to file my first year of owning a Duplex - renting half and living in the other half. My questions surround how to structure my taxes of course. I've always filed myself, very cut and dry profile...single, no kids, no LLC, W2 wage. A 15 minutes on TurboTax type. With the Duplex now, my understanding is I file as though the rental half is a separate property and cut all expenses in half as a write off to my rental income (property tax, insurance, maintenance, improvements, etc...nothing was done specifically to either unit it was full home external work like garage and railing repairs, painting) as well as depreciating the half of the duplex that is a rental after calculating basis.

It all seems very straightforward to me but I know I'd be naive not to have a second set of eyes with a professional given my lack of experience. However I don't want to get taken to the cleaners for hundreds or thousands for someone to essentially say "yep, looks good."

I'm sure everyone will tell me to still get one, but what in your experience is a reasonable price for a client like myself? Also, open to recommendations if I decide to hire someone. I'm in Metro Detroit, Michigan.

Thank you for your time, cheers!


 My CPA is about $25k for the year he is out of Bloomfield Hills MI but he does all my businesses and my 131 units. Start cheap and then scale up as you need. For my first business my CPA cost $1k lol