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All Forum Posts by: Trey Watson

Trey Watson has started 19 posts and replied 180 times.

Post: China's effect on U.S. Markets

Trey Watson
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  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 152

Read this article because it's about this exact topic. Some solid points here.

Link Below 

Houston Business Journal- How the Chinese market crash could impact Houston investors.

Post: Beginner

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  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 152

At the very least, get your r/e license. It will give you a little credibility and open doors to a ton of other opportunities. 

Post: Why You Should Meet Your Wholesaler In Person

Trey Watson
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  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 152

I'd like to reiterate this topic for all of those Houston buyers.

Post: Agent AND Investor?

Trey Watson
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  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
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Why not have two separate entities under 1 umbrella? Probably a ton of disclosure requirements involved, but one of my clients owns a property management company and he also holds his license for representing buyers and sellers. The prop management company is 1 llc and his brokerage is another llc. I think he has an umbrella company that owns both. 

We sell his clients investment properties, he represents them as a buyers agent and takes a commission, and then turns around and manages their properties for them. 

Am I understanding what you're trying to do?

Post: Financing for flip with hard money

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  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 152

@Gabriel Ayala - the straight answer is 100% financing is not common in the Houston market. I see a ton of lenders offer it, but it almost never ends up that way when it comes time to sign and close. Also to answer your question, you definitely want to get approved by a hard money lender BEFORE you find a house. The market is too competitive not to have your ducks in a row before hand.  

Post: Housing Market Still Isn't Rational

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  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
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The title of this forum is the title of the Robert Shiller article from the NY Times last month. I'm sure that's what you were referencing but I will put the link at the bottom of this post for anyone who needs it.

I don't think the housing market can ever be an efficient market unless policy and law is dramatically changed. Shiller emphasizes 2 things that are required to be an efficient market: the equal availability of new relevant information and the ability to directly bet or  hedge against market movements.

The ability to bet against housing is there via CDO's and maybe other investment vehicles I don't know about, but I don't think the scale is large enough to compare to the affect shorting has on the stock market. Shiller was making the comparison by saying that shorting the stock market helps prevent bubbles from forming and that the use of CDO's in 2003-2006 was an attempt to mirror that action for the housing market in order to hold down the bubble, but it was a fail. 

He explained that it failed because with CDO's, you are essentially shorting housing using mortgages and in his opinion there is a disconnect between mortgages and homes. While that's technically true, I believe mortgages have everything to do the price of homes because more often that not, the appraiser that is working through the bank issuing the mortgage is the one determining the sale price which directly affects the loan amount. So I don't think they failed because of the disconnect. 

I think the real reason why CDO's failed to hold down the bubble was because of the lack of scale.  CDO's are complicated and not as accessible or popular as shorting a stock. I can short stock from my computer at home. If 10 people read this, Id be surprised if 1 person knows what a CDO is much less how to get involved with them. I don't have data to back this up, but im willing to bet that the volume of CDO's in the housing market is a tiny fraction of what shorting is to the stock market. I don't have any data on this because I can't find any reliable volume data on CDO's. That's how unpopular they are. Any ideas? Maybe I'm wrong.

Also on a side note- Because Texas is a non disclosure state, wouldn't that be an example of a reason that our housing market is and will forever be inefficient? (unless law is changed)

Link to article below

Robert Shiller- The Housing Market Still Isn't Rational

Post: Should I convert a garage into extra living space

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  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 152

Depends on what neighborhood but most likely its best to leave the garage as a garage if it's detached. It would be odd to have a living room separate from the house.

Post: Houstons Recent Floods- What Changed?

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  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 152

Since the recent flooding here in Houston occurred, I have noticed changes in investors attitudes towards different parts of town- which is inevitable to a point. People wont touch houses that are in certain neighborhoods that were once the hottest neighborhoods to buy in. Even at discounts.

Has anyone noticed this? What areas/neighborhoods do you need to watch out for and why?

Any input would be appreciated.

Post: 19 Years Old, Sophomore in College, First Rental/Investment Property

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  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 152

I went to Sam Houston but lived in College Station the entire time. One of my good friends there used his brother (who already had a job) to co-sign through a conventional bank (chase bank) on his property. He didn't need any credit or ownership history because his older brother was signing who had already been working in the real world for a while. My friend lived in one room throughout school and rented out the others. It was essentially turn key and did not need much work- which is what made it possible to buy through a conventional bank. If the property had needed a significant amount of work, he would have needed to use hard money. The reason is, if a property has significant enough issues such as major plumbing or foundation or an old leaky roof, a conventional bank wont lend on that because it wont pass inspection.

If you're looking for something to fix up, hard money is your option. Once you fix it up, most hard money companies can refinance you into a conventional loan which will normalize your interest rate.

If you're looking for turn-key, the bank is the way to go and there is no need for hard money because hard money is meant for something that needs a construction escrow. A simple low fixed interest rate through a bank is ideal for a long term rental. 

As far as finding a loan that a 19 year old college student will qualify for- you pretty much need a cash loan from family/private lender or you need a co signer who has income history and decent credit. Once you have one property under your belt, it gets easier and you should be able to buy on your own.

I hope this helps.

Post: Why You Should Meet Your Wholesaler In Person

Trey Watson
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  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 152

I work for a large wholesaler in Houston, so this is completely biased. This is also something I feel very strongly about. At NWA we are trained to require that potential investors meet us in person before we start sending them our inventory. This allows for us to discuss the clients needs, expectations, plans, and goals to get an idea of how we can fit into their mold as well as go over the fine print of our unique addendum that we use at the back of the TREC contract. Of course this meeting is also a qualification period where we make sure that the individual actually has money to invest, is motivated to buy, and is crystal clear on our process. 

Those questions are important in understanding strategy and how you are going to create a time efficient system that allows that specific investor to be comfortable enough to buy property from you. Most would say that you could just ask these questions over the phone. NO. This brings me to my next point.

The most important reasons behind why you need to meet your wholesaler in person, I believe are more social in nature. Trust, accountability, and peer pressure, all play into this. If you've seen my face, shook my hand, seen my office, looked me up online, and can easily alter my credibility as a wholesaler in this industry with a simple click or post on any social media platform- chances are, I'm not going to put you into a bad deal or keep your earnest money, or walk away from closing or anything that could disrupt that status if I am insisting that you meet me at my office. That is the pressure factor. Then you have trust. How can you possibly trust someone that you only get emails from or have spoken to on the phone? Don't you think it would be easier to conduct a smell test on someone in person than over the phone?

A good wholesaler will insist on you meeting them at their office. Us being wholesalers, w get calls, texts, emails and requests all day from people all asking us to add their email address to our distribution list without knowing who we are... "NO LINDA I WILL NOT throw your email address onto a list of 1500 people who I've never met because I don't send properties to people I've never met. How would you like to set up a consultation and I can add you to our private list once we've gone over everything?" If she doesn't say no completely, she'll say something like- "why do I need to come to your office? How about we do lunch?" No LINDA. NO. I have the properties. There are more of you (investors) than there are me (wholesalers with properties). I can't spend my day chasing around investors to their favorite coffee or lunch spots. Our guys at NWA would be getting coffee 3 or 4 times a day.

Wouldn't it be smarter if you spent less time sifting through all the garbage properties in your email because you have 3 solid ace superstar wholesalers from different companies who pump out 30 quality deals a month each and you know you can get your hands on as many as your bank account can handle? Every investor knows time is money. The investors who I see not making any money are the ones who spend all of their time and resources on marketing.

We all see wholesalers come and go. Most fail. I probably get over a hundred emails a day from wholesalers trying to sell me deals. You probably do too. 99.8% of them are complete garbage. The only ones with good deals are the ones I had to meet to get the deals and those are not the wholesalers with 1500 people on their list. They know who their key buyers are. Bottom line is you get what you pay for and because wholesalers don't charge subscription fees, time is the commodity you pay with. Don't be a Linda. (no offense to people with the name Linda).