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All Forum Posts by: Winter Heintz

Winter Heintz has started 3 posts and replied 31 times.

Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Winter Heintz NEVER represent a Holding Fee as a deposit! If you do this, it makes it refundable if applicant disappears.


 It's a NONREFUNDABLE holding fee for 14 days that turns into a security deposit once all other move-in requirements are complete.

Quote from @Dan H.:

Both these worse case happened to our STR units which we do not self manage:

Scenario 1: tenant created a mud pit out of the small yard for girls to wrestle in.  PM collected for damages and lost rent. We placed a deck over 50% of the yard and artificial turf over the other half of the yard.  

Scenario 2 may not primarily be an issue with our tenant (depends on your perspective): Our STR tenant was one guy and 2 females. One of the neighbors (who was an LTR tenant) was being obnoxious toward one or both females. Our male tenant attempted to be chivalrous and supposedly started the physical confrontation. our tenant ended up getting KOed. Our PM contacted the neighbor PM and neighbor tenant got a warning but no real consequence seeing that he apparently did not start the physical confrontation. Our PM found our tenants a different place to stay and we lost some rent.

Not our tenant, but tenant across the street from our unit was a extreme hoarder case.  They had cat and dog that **** repeatedly in house and was not cleaned up.  There was stuff piled to the ceilings. One of the most surprising things to me was the cobwebs in the door to the bathroom.  It appears tenant bent down to avoid the webs rather than remove the webs.  The unit was a total rip out, mostly due to the pet damage.  If it was just the hoarding, the cost would not have been that high as the owner negotiated $300 to remove everything and they got to keep what they wanted (there was unused laptops, multiple flat screen TVs, etc). 


 The mud wrestling pit is terrible for your property but so creative on the tenant's part. I can't help but laugh! 

These are some interesting stories! 

Quote from @Greg R.:

I've had a couple STR guests smoking meth/ fentanyl in my properties, which is pretty crazy because these are high end luxury units. Doesn't happen often but it's happened twice. I know because one tore down smoke detectors and they both left foil, straws, and other used supplies behind.

Regarding LRT, I usually don't interact much w/ the tenants or do the screening, my wife does. Can't remember what happened but for whatever reason I was at this property and showed it to a couple of young single guys. They were active duty in the US Marine Corps., and I am a Marine Corps. vet, so we hit it off. I bypassed the normal screening that we usually do, because, they're Marines and they'll be great tenants - right?

On the first day they moved in there was something minor that needed repair, so I go over there to take care of it and I'm greeted by a 80-90 pound german shepherd who was not at all welcoming. I was puzzled because the lease stated no pets allowed and they confirmed that they didn't have any pets or animals. 

A moment later I saw one of the guys and asked him what's going on w/ the dog. He said that they decided not to tell me about it because they thought I would discriminate against them, so they went and got an ESA cert online (not worth the paper it's printed on), and said that now I can't do s*it about it. Those were literally his words, and this happened on the first day of the lease when they were moving in. 

From there all kinds of drama, complaining that a fence was a few inches too close to parking space and was code violation, threatened to call fire dept, etc., etc. Literally complaining about every single thing on a regular basis. I was finally able to get rid of them, but they were a complete and major pain in the butt. 


 Wow! My husband is a marine corps vet and I would never rent to him. He would never pay bills on time if I didn't tell him what's due and when! (I know this because he never paid bills before we met , nearly got evicted when we did meet and got his truck repossessed a few months after we started dating). Military might teach tactics but they don't teach finances ! (I am also in the National Guard). 

They sound like a pain! 

I've had one person apply and say they have an emotional support animal. What do I need to verify that information? A letter from a therapist?

How did you get rid them out?

Quote from @Matthew Bowling:

I'm curious as to your tenant screening criteria. Are you using a service such as rentredi or avail?


 I send out my own pre-screen questionnaire with all the questions I need answered. How many pets, how many people, do you smoke, rough gross income, etc. It's very thorough. I will be utilizing Turbotenant for application, background check/credit check, document signing and rental payments. 

This is a process I did not utilize with my previous tenants as they were my friends and everything was a handshake agreement. 

Happy Friday! As I go through screening potential renters for my unit, I'm intrigued by all the horror stories I hear. My previous tenants were great, always paid on time and took care of the property. They were less than ideal at cleaning and always wanted more animals but nothing I couldn't handle. 

One of my co-workers, let's call him John, told me a story about how he had a terrible tenant who never paid rent and did drugs in his property. Of course, the guy didn't want to leave. So, John was a realtor and he found a creative way to ANNOY the tenant so much that he eventually moved. He took a "For Sale" sign and put it out front of his rental. John told his tenant it just wasn't working out so he had to sell it. John asked a few of his realtor buddies to act as interested buyers. He would have them filter through so often that the tenant eventually packed up and left. 


I want to hear YOUR tenant horror stories and what creative ways have you dealt with them?

I did take Venmo or Cash with my previous tenants. Now that I'm looking for new tenants I'm looking to expand those options and get rid of cash. I'd prefer money order, cashier's check or pay through turbo tenant or Zillow. If Venmo is what they would want to use, I may be convinced.

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Winter Heintz:

You can't force them to do anything. 

When an application is approved, I give them very clear, written instructions on how to pay the deposit and secure the rental. If they don't pay within 24 hours, the property is offered to the next approved applicant or stays on the market. That's their choice. It's a frustrating process, but you can't force them to rent your place any more than a grocery store can force them to buy the loaf of bread in front instead of digging back three rows.

EDIT: I just saw that you take the deposit in pieces, which I think is bad practice. I take the full deposit within 24 hours of approval and send them a "Holding Agreement" that says I am accepting the payment, will hold the property until [DATE], and if they change their mind or fail to perform then the deposit is forfeited. I require payments in Money Order, cashiers check, or direct deposit so I don't have to wait for a check to clear. If people don't want to commit, neither should you.


 Interesting. You make valid points. I think I will stick with the entire security deposit up front. I have been doing the 24 hour to pay the hold fee. If they pay it , awesome, I'll hold it for them. If not, I'll move on. 

Thank you for your input. I think it is less confusing to just say "Pay security deposit up front as your hold fee. Pay the rest at lease signing." 

Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Winter Heintz  if you are in a rural or semi rural area you may be talking to everyone looking for your type of unit and if you are basically the least expensive of that size unit you will get people on the edge. Aside from the open house consolidated showings and other suggestions I have found a nice video tour also limits who comes in person to those who find the unit meets their needs to begin with. I send the video tour before showing not in place of it. Prescreen before open house type showing too. 


 I do have a video tour but I haven't been sending it out with the prescreen. That's a good idea ! 

Quote from @Andrew B.:

I find it a little odd that you're telling them to give you half the deposit to hold it and then another half to sign the lease. Why not tell them to give you the whole deposit and sign the lease at the same time? Dont give them the keys until you get deposit and first month.


 Because one of the most asked questions is: Can I pay a portion of the deposit to hold the unit? I don't see why not if that is more attractive to potential renters. It's non-refundable for the 14 days I can hold it. I then will collect the rest of the security deposit, 1st month's rent and fees at lease signing.

What does your process look like?

Post: Tenant Screening Question

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Quote from @Michael Leo:

@Melanie Thomas @Winter Heintz

Thank you both for replying. Very useful information. I definitely have to be better about figuring out what my minimum criteria is and being clear about that up front. I may try to verify their ability to pay by getting more information from them and requiring some of those other things you suggested but it will be hard to verify anything with what I have from them so far.


I will be looking into a leasing only PM and maybe have them take care of more as I am still working a full time job so it's been a little difficult balancing that with trying to take care of getting these units ready and filled. Thanks for all of the help!


 I've been turned onto TurboTenant. If you're looking to handle the property management yourself this has everything you need for free. Marketing, pre-screening, applications, background and credit checks,  online lease and addendums, and payments. I know it can be overwhelming but having those set standards and a good software/ system is worth it. 

I rent in a small town so a lot of my applicants expect it to be an easy : tour, cash for rent and sign the lease. When I show them I have a system (prescreen- tour - application + background and credit check at their cost - deposit to hold - lease signing and the rest of the payments, it deters a lot of the duds and makes me feel like I'm actually filtering out the bad eggs. 


Good luck! Keep learning. Stick with your knowledge and your gut. 

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