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Post: Credit Card Churning Using Plastiq to Pay Your Mortgages

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Originally posted by @Daniel Mills:
@Frankie Woods, so how often do you sign up for new cards? In my case, if I pay my mortgages with a card, I could probably meet most minimum spends in a month, but signing up for a new card every three weeks will probably effect my credit. Do you just sign up for three at the same time so you only get one credit pull and then do that every three months?
@Sean McCluskey, that’s a good point. I wouldn’t want to sign up for a card and then not be able to use it to pay the mortgages.
I used to sign up for a new card every 2 - 3 months. The credit inquiries will impact your credit score, but not significantly (I maintained between 700 - 770 depending on the credit bureau with an average of 730). I have 16 over the past 2 years, and about 11 over the last year. The inquiries from the last year have the biggest effect. The biggest issue is that some credit card issuers (e.g., chase and american express) will not approve you if you have too many inquiries in the last 6 - 12 months. Discover and Capital One generally won't approve you if you have a lot of open accounts. There are several nuances. The generally strategy is to start with Chase due to their 5/24 rule (five personal cards opened in last 24 months) and finish with AMEX (has a one bonus per lifetime rule). BoFA, Wells Fargo, Barclays, U.S. Bank etc. are good for churning in the middle. It's a fun hobby but can be frustrating and trial by error at times.
Post: Credit Card Churning Using Plastiq to Pay Your Mortgages

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Originally posted by @Sean McCluskey:
@Frankie Woods I’ve read that only certain mortgage companies will work with Plastiq. Is that what you’ve found? How exactly do you use it?
That is true. I believe that only American Express now doesn't allow mortgage payments. You will get notified if the transaction can't be completed with the card. All you need is your payment information from your bill, which you enter into a "new recipient". They charge your card and mail a check to the mortgage company. It generally takes 5 - 8 business days for the payment to post to your mortgage account. It's fairly easy and a good way to meet your minimum spend. If it doesn't work, just pay ahead on your utilities (phone, electric, insurance bills, etc.)
Post: Credit Card Churning Using Plastiq to Pay Your Mortgages

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@Mark S. no problem! The southwest card is amazing but I don’t have a significant other so its less useful for me. You can transfer UR with the chase preferred card (95 annual fee) and that allows you to transfer points from the freedom as well.
Post: Credit Card Churning Using Plastiq to Pay Your Mortgages

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@Mark S. I love Chase (Reserve, Ink preferred, Ink cash, and Freedom) as well as American Expresss (Platinum, Gold, Blue Cash, and Hilton Aspire). I’m military though so I pay no annual fees, but I’ll keep them when I get out in a few years. The business cards don’t show up on my credit report which makes them extremely valuable to me for rehab projects in order to keep my overall utilization down and not affect my credit score for new loans. The ability to travel hack with my normal spending is so awesome to me. One sign up bonus can generally pay for an amazing trip on the right card.
Post: Credit Card Churning Using Plastiq to Pay Your Mortgages

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Some of the sign up bonuses are worth way more than $500. I just flew round trip to Europe in Biz class using points. Retail value of tickets were $9k each way. $2k in economy. This is simple and straightforward to do with plastic.
Post: Owner Occupied every year?

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I've done this twice. As @Andrew B. stated, the third time I tried to do this with an FHA loan got held up because they didn't believe I'd actually move. I used the same lender and was told that it was the reason for the hold up. Generally though, this is a reasonable strategy. Just be up front with your lender.
Post: Lines of Credit vs Hard Money

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Another option is business credit cards (except Capital One and Discover). I have several and none of them report to the consumer credit bureaus unless you default. It's workable, but if you don't pay them within the introductory period, you'll end up paying more interest than if you went with a hard money lender.
Post: Building business credit

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legalzoom offers physical addresses. They will scan all documents sent to that address and upload them to their website tied to your account.
Post: Equity credit line , or refi? A seller fiananced deal

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Originally posted by @Timothy Swenton:
@Frankie Woods
It’s amortized over 10 years. So my mortgage is significantly higher (cash flow less)
But maybe that’s worth the loan?
How would a HELOC work in this case I'll give some
More info below
4 unit Lewiston Maine.
3 , 2 bedrooms, 1 commercial space.
Purchase $155,000
So obvi seller financed $135,000 I put $20k down
Mortgage is $1366.81 monthly
With the way the market has grown here, and with the rents I am now getting and upgrading as we speak, current market value probably puts this place around $175-190k.
I bought this in
January.
Conventional mortgages require 30% down on 4-families. So, at the lower ARV ($175k) you can refinance into a $122.5k loan, which would mean you'd have to bring more money to the table. However, the new payment would be $685.96 @ 5.375% (I just refinanced at this rate with a 720+ credit score), cutting your current payment almost in half. At the higher ARV ($190k), you can refiance into a $133k loan which still requires some out-of-pocket funds to cover some of the closing costs, but ~10k less than the lower ARV. The new payment here would be $744.76. Both of these options would greatly increase your potential cashflow.
Since this is an investment property, there are only a few banks that would allow you to get a HELOC (e.g., PenFed and NFCU), and most will only allow you to pull out up to 80% of the property's value.
If I were in your shoes, I'd refinance now to get into a longer term loan with lower payments. It greatly increases your flexibility down the road, will significantly improve your DTI for future acquisitions, and will supercharge your savings rate for the next round. Not quite the "home run" BP members talk about, but this is nothing to snuff out. You're doing better than 99% of the "investors" out there...
Hope that helps!
Frankie
Post: What CoC ROI should I aim for when I plan to house hack?

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@Santino Lauricella you nailed it. Negative cashflow in a house hack is ok if the numbers work with you not living there. When I house hack, I actually "charge" myself market rent when running the numbers each year. It always makes me smile at the end of the year :). Besides, you have to live somewhere; might as well pay yourself first!
Best of luck my dude!