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All Forum Posts by: Zen Lenon

Zen Lenon has started 3 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: Looking for MTR Property Managers

Zen LenonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15

Hello, everyone!


I am looking for great property managers who are in the Las Vegas market. Here's more context. I have 3 different investors who will need this service in about 3-6 months. Can you please share your favorite PMs, why and what to look out for when hiring and managing property managers? Thank you so much. 


Zen

I appreciate the tip, thank you

Post: Rookie Investor with luck on his side.

Zen LenonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Michael Herrera:

Hello BP world, I'm a skilled laborer specializing in Structural Welding and a recent Jackpot Winner looking to invest in my first property flip. I consider myself a go getter and just having a hard time seeing what it is that I need to get. I have a day job and time to dedicate to this business I want to start. I'm eager to learn and get my feet wet in the Real Estate Investing world. I can't say if this is good time or not to start this venture (most will say it's not) but regardless, I'm eager to learn through hard work and smart decision making. 

Finding a good deal is step 1 and I have yet to reach step 2. My problem is simple, the houses I want to flip are too expensive, and sellers are stubborn with their asking prices (at least the few I've seen). Which leads me to making adjustments on my rehab and profit budget that leaves with a number I'm not comfortable with. How is this problem fixed? Or is the simple solution to just move on to a different property? 

I've had thoughts of rental investing but it feels like the market doesn't support that investment niche at this time as well. I'd be in the negative cash flow and having to rely on time to get my money back on the property, or at least that's what I think I'd have to do. I did the math and although I'd be getting cash back from renting my mortgage rate would be too high to make profit at the end of the month. I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem.

Currently working with a realtor who I've told what I'm looking for but I don't think he wants to spend time on my interests. I don't have a Real-estate license and I'm under the assumption that I don't need one, is this something I should consider? I'm not opposed to investing out of county or state but it just as more of a risk in doing so especially since I don't really have a team established in my own city (not yet at least).   

Are there trusted websites that non agents can look at to get the inside edge on properties?  Is there anyone else in the Vegas area that is in the same or similar situation as me or someone who has accomplished what it is that I am trying to do. Looking for a role model here. 

I'm truly trying not get discouraged from this slump I feel or let my defeatist attitude get the best of me. Regardless my search continues for my first deal and a little "cheer" and "you got this this" goes a long way =)

My goal is to get 1 flip under my belt by the end of the year 2023 and start a 2nd by January. LET'S GET IT!


Hey hey, 👋 Michael,

Congrats on diving into the fix-and-flip world! It's a wild ride, but with the right moves, you can totally nail it. Let me share some practical advice to get you started:

  1. 1. Broaden Your Search and Hold Off for Deals: 
  2. When houses are pricey and sellers are being stubborn, it's a good idea to expand your buy box. Check out neighborhoods that might not be hot right now but have potential for growth. Here are projects in Las Vegas to help you choose locations: https://www.buildcentral.com/top-10-upcoming-construction-pr...Don't rush into buying; good deals often take time. You can also explore distressed properties, expired listings, or foreclosures, but be ready for a lot of manual work. 
  3. 2. Choose an agent who will work and make you a priority:  
  4. Interview Multiple Agents
    Don't settle for the first agent you meet. Interview at least three real estate agents. Ask them about their experience with investment properties and their strategies for finding you the best deals. Read there reviews and referrals online. Pay close attention to their responsiveness—do they reply promptly to your messages and inquiries? Are they willing to show you properties even on short notice? This will give you a clear sense of who is genuinely committed to helping you and making your goals a priority. Hard work pays off but first you need to find the right representative who will work as hard, if not harder, than you. Remember, a responsive and proactive agent can make a world of difference in your real estate journey.
  5. 3. Connect and Build Your Dream Team: 
  6. Having the right crew is a game-changer. Find a real estate agent who knows the ins and outs of investing in rehabbed properties and is willing to work within your budget. And don't stop there; find an agent who has a network with contractors, specialists, inspectors, handymen, vendors, and other experts in the field. These folks can save you money and stress. I can share my vendor lists with you if you need help. 
  7. 4. Begin with Smaller Properties and Smart Team Selection

    Start small by looking for properties with lower square footage, preferably under 2000 square feet. Focus on properties with larger land square footage, which can potentially accommodate additional units or casitas. Opt for properties without Homeowners' Associations (HOA) restrictions to give you more flexibility in your investments.

    When it comes to contractors and realtors, be meticulous in your selection process. Choose professionals who are well-versed in the local zoning and licensing requirements. Don't rush into partnerships; take your time to vet potential team members. Ask for their clients' contact information and give them a call. Inquire about the challenges and experiences previous clients had with these contractors or realtors. Due diligence will help you build a reliable team that can support your real estate endeavors effectively.

Listen, sending offers that are 60%-70% below the listing price will often be dismissed by sellers, especially if sellers have signed a waiver of disclosure, and agents aren't obligated to present these offers to them. This means that a significant majority of such offers may go unnoticed, ranging from 90% to 95% of the time. It's essentially a numbers game, and you'll need to send out hundreds of offers to secure one potential deal. If you're willing to put in the effort, I can likely support you. However, don't lose hope, as there are many hardworking agents out there who can assist you in this process.

Stay positive and keep at it. The real estate investment game can be a challenge, but with grit and smart moves, you'll get to that flip by the end of 2023. You're already surrounded by helpful people; just don't forget to apply what you learn. You've totally got this, Michael!

Good luck with your fix-and-flip adventures!!

I'm trying to learn what's the best method to use. I'm trying to assume and wondering if I should get partners, use a heloc for the down or if subject to is better. 

Hello everyone,

I often come across creative financing properties, but I've recently stumbled upon a compelling opportunity: an assumable 2.75% VA Loan deal in North Las Vegas. This property features a 4-bedroom layout upstairs, with 3 full baths (including 1 3/4 bath and 1/2 bath), a 3-car garage with an epoxy floor, a loft, and a den. It's a 2021 build.

While I'm contemplating the purchase of this property, I'd like to hear your insights, especially considering I'm in the process of closing on another property set to close on 12/27/23. This opportunity appears to be an attractive medium- to long-term buy-and-hold investment.

I'm particularly interested in your recent experiences with financing options like HELOCs, cash-out refinancing, syndication, investment partnerships, or any other loan products, including hard money loan options you've used in the past 180 days. Your input will be invaluable in helping me make an informed decision.

Thank you in advance for sharing your insights.

Best regards,

Zen

Post: Anyone in Las Vegas looking to learn more about MTRs?

Zen LenonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Zen Lenon:
Quote from @Allen Duan:

We're onboarding a new MTR in Spring Valley we will be managing and, this being our first property in Las Vegas, I'm looking to connect with anyone who does MTRs already or is interested in learning about MTRs. For anyone wanting to learn, we have opportunities to work with us and learn the ins and outs of how to to set up and run MTRs at scale. 

Post here or DM me and I'd love to connect. 

Thank you all!


Hi Allen, I'm currently offering MTRs (Master Tenant Rentals) today. I'm based in the southwest and I currently have 9 units and I am currently helping 3 investors for MTR at this moment. One of the investors closed last night, and luckily I have the perfect property that meets their needs. However, the challenge with MTRs lies in the CC&R (Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions) and HOA (Homeowners Association) regulations.

To proceed with MTRs, it's crucial to carefully review the CC&R to ensure that leasing out a portion of the lot to tenants is permissible. This process requires a significant amount of effort. Lately, I've been constantly engaged in phone calls for the past 6 days, trying to obtain the necessary information. Unfortunately, some realtors don't respond to their phones, some HOAs have outdated contact numbers, and some CC&R documents are not up to date. It's quite frustrating, but I've been able to navigate through these challenges and gather accurate information for my clients.

I'm curious to know how you approach obtaining CC&R documents at scale. In my experience, this has been the most time-consuming and cumbersome aspect.


 Correction MTR = Med Term Rentals 

"Master Tenant Rentals" = auto-incorrect 

Post: Anyone in Las Vegas looking to learn more about MTRs?

Zen LenonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Allen Duan:

We're onboarding a new MTR in Spring Valley we will be managing and, this being our first property in Las Vegas, I'm looking to connect with anyone who does MTRs already or is interested in learning about MTRs. For anyone wanting to learn, we have opportunities to work with us and learn the ins and outs of how to to set up and run MTRs at scale. 

Post here or DM me and I'd love to connect. 

Thank you all!

Hi Allen, I'm currently offering MTRs today. I'm based in the southwest and I currently have 9 units and I am currently helping 3 investors for MTR at this moment. One of the investors closed last night, and luckily I have the perfect property that meets their needs. However, the challenge with MTRs lies in the CC&R (Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions) and HOA (Homeowners Association) regulations.

To proceed with MTRs, it's crucial to carefully review the CC&R to ensure that leasing out a portion of the lot to tenants is permissible. This process requires a significant amount of effort. Lately, I've been constantly engaged in phone calls for the past 6 days, trying to obtain the necessary information. Unfortunately, some realtors don't respond to their phones, some HOAs have outdated contact numbers, and some CC&R documents are not up to date. It's quite frustrating, but I've been able to navigate through these challenges and gather accurate information for my clients.

I'm curious to know how you approach obtaining CC&R documents at scale. In my experience, this has been the most time-consuming and cumbersome aspect.

Post: Beach, Mountain or City location?

Zen LenonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Bobby Paquette:

If you could only pick one type of location to invest in STR's for the rest of your investing career, which type of location would it be? Near the mountains(Like Gatlinburg), near the beach(Like Destin), or in a city(Like Vegas) and why?

*Doesn't have to be the locations I used as an example just wanted to give an example! 

I'd go with Hawaii because I'm from there and love the vibe. Lake Tahoe would be perfect for seasonal mountain activities, and Las Vegas has so much to offer with its hiking, gambling, and events. Three awesome choices for STR investments! If I could only choose one, Hawaii because it is the most healing and the STR rates are the highest. Below are some comparisons however please note I was not able to get the 2023 stats for these locations. I can find out; it just takes a little more research on my end :-)

Hawaii (Beach):

  • Tourism: Hawaii had almost 10 million visitors in 2019, and most of them were from the US.
  • Occupancy Rates: In 2019, vacation rentals in Hawaii were occupied around 72% of the time on average.
  • Rental Rates: The prices varied depending on which island you're on. On Oahu, you'd be looking at around $240 a day, while Maui would cost you around $349 and Kauai about $314 in 2020.
  • Seasonality: Hawaii sees a pretty steady stream of tourists year-round, but there are times when demand spikes during the popular travel seasons.

Lake Tahoe (Mountains):

  • Tourism: Lake Tahoe had about 15 million visitors in 2019. Lots of folks head there for outdoor activities like skiing, hiking, and boating.
  • Occupancy Rates: In 2019, the occupancy rates for vacation rentals in Lake Tahoe were around 60% on average.
  • Rental Rates: Depending on the specific area and season, you could find vacation rentals ranging from $200 to $400 per night .
  • Seasonality: The winter ski season and summer months are when things get really busy in Lake Tahoe, but the shoulder seasons can be slower with lower occupancy rates.

Las Vegas Strip (City):

  • Tourism: Las Vegas is a hotspot with over 42 million visitors in 2019. People come from all over the world to experience the entertainment, casinos, and nightlife.
  • Occupancy Rates: In 2019, the vacation rental occupancy rate in the Las Vegas area was around 75% on average.
  • Rental Rates: On average, vacation rentals in Las Vegas went for about $170 per night, but prices can vary depending on the property's features and how close it is to the Strip.
  • Seasonality: Las Vegas attracts tourists all year long, so demand stays pretty consistent, but there can be spikes during events and holidays.

Post: FIRST TIME Investment House Hacking a Duplex

Zen LenonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Franco Gozzarelli:

Hello, just sharing my first experience buying real estate. Me and my girlfriend have been looking to buy a property and house hack for almost 2 years but the Las Vegas market has been complicated. We finally found a duplex that seems to work for us. Here are the numbers on it. Not the best deal but we wanted to get in the game. The purchase price is $335k and we are using an FHA loan 3.5% down. In total closing costs we paid $14k. The property needs some TLC so we estimate $15k in total repairs. The rents are currently bringing in $1k/month each unit but after repairs we are going to increase rent $100-200. I'm motivated and look forward to keep investing... Any thoughts?


That's awesome! I want to try this next. I'd love to learn the land square footage. The reason I ask is perhaps there is a way to add value. An example would be to add storage spaces and rent them out for an additional $50-100 per month, depending on their size, of course, and ensure they are climate controlled. Could you explore the possibility of adding a short-term rental (STR) angle? For instance, can you fit an RV in the driveway? We have Formula 1 and so many conferences, including EDC. STR units are a great way to add to your portfolio without requiring a purchase of a new property. Is there a way to add additional units? Are there any unused spaces that can be converted into units? I'm excited to see your journey through the BRRRR stages.

Post: Lump Sum Investing or Pay off Rental Home

Zen LenonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Will Costello:
Quote from @Zen Lenon:
Quote from @Will Costello:

I have a rental home with approx. $87k remaining on the mortgage (6% rate, 20yr, currently at month 57 of 240). I will be receiving approx. $91,500 tax free; more than enough to pay off the mortgage immediately.

I want some advice/thoughts around the options:

KEEP INVESTING MONEY - Assuming a 6.6% return on investment over the next 5 years, invested in Total Stock Market Index, this value would be worth an additional $38,915 in growth or original capital ($91,000) and $18,000 from cashflow. This is assuming I continue to invest the $300 per month cash flow from this rental. TOTAL = $56,915 Additional dollars.

PAY OFF RENTAL + INVEST CASH FLOW - By paying off the mortgage, I will increase the cash flow to approximately $1000 per month. Assuming the remaining amount of cash I have from windfall ($4,500) plus the monthly cash flow ($1,000) in the same investments over 5 years; I have Gained a total of $60,000 from my renters, and $12,610 in growth in the same stock. Net $72,610 just from rental income and growth. This does not include the $23,480 in interest savings as well by not paying bank. Total = $96,090

Is the math as simple as looking at the two numbers($56,915 and $96,090) and seeing which is higher? Would I need to subtract the interest savings from the second number cause it isn't an actual gain? So $72,610?

This is all considering no vacancy or capital expenses....but I just want to leave those out for this exercise. We also don't need to think about tax implications at least for the next 5 years. Just trust me on this one. 

Thanks ahead for helping me think through this one.

Hi there @Will Costello, Pleasure to meet you on BP. 

Let's dig into some numbers to give you a clearer picture. I think this is how I understand your situation to be...

  • Cash Flow Analysis: 
  • Option 1: 
  • Total cash flow from stock growth: $38,915
  • Option 2: 
  • Total cash flow from rental income and stock growth: $72,610
  • Return on Investment (ROI): 
  • Option 1: Initial investment: $100,000 Gain: $56,915 ROI: ($56,915 / $100,000) x 100% = 56.9%
  • Option 2: Initial investment: $100,000 Gain: $72,610 ROI: ($72,610 / $100,000) x 100% = 72.6%
  • Break-Even Point: 
  • I don't have the numbers for growth rate, rental income growth rates, I do know your cash investment per month so I'll reverse engineer and pretend you get $300 cash flow per month instead :) oh and I don't have the timeframe so I'll just use your 5 year timeline, I'll also use the 22.7% growth rate in Las Vegas Rental market :) You can always plug in your actual growth based on your datapoints. 
  • Option 1: Keep Investing Money Assuming an initial investment of $10,000 and a monthly cash flow of $300, after 5 years with a 6.6% annual growth rate, the total money from Option 1 would be approximately $16,605.

    Option 2: Pay Off Rental + Invest Cash Flow With an increased monthly cash flow of $1,000 and assuming a steady annual rental income growth rate of 22.7%, after 5 years, the total money from Option 2 would be approximately $18,899.

    Therefore, based on these calculations, Option 2 would catch up to Option 1 by the end of the 5th year.

  • Okay I am not a financial advisor/lender but that was a fun exercise. Please don't take my word for it and consult with a CPA/a financial expert :) Thanks for sharing. Always consider your risk tolerance- everyone is different-, your long-term goals, and the impact of those costs we intentionally removed and risks as well.
  • So if I had to make this decision today, I would focus on option 2. Choose the strategy and find ways to iterate and make it even better. Good luck and again nice to meet you!

Thank you @Zen Lenon for helping with the math. The actual property is located in Edmond, OK, but doesn’t matter too much in the long scheme. 
I think our ideal situation is one that is allows us to make sure we aren’t in a negative place with a long term vacancy. In this case having no mortgage also takes that pressure away. And the math makes sense too! 

Great to meet you and thanks for the help. Hopefully this post will help others in the future too.


 You're most welcome! Now I understand the context a little bit more. Have fun with the process. It's a great prob to solve :)