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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Arth

Ryan Arth has started 28 posts and replied 796 times.

Post: Experience of OOS investing in Cleveland after 1.5 years.

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Ryan Arth:
Quote from @Chris Clothier:
Quote from @Ryan Arth:
You’re right. Keep your focus on how many crappy properties you can buy each year, instead of buying fewer but better properties. Focus on “scaling quickly.” Collect properties instead of money. It’s a winning strategy…..

Way back when BP started, before we used our real names, a prominent guy on here named Mike in OH said "focus on your ROI, not your door count". You are investing for return on capital.

Someone had congratulated him for how many doors he had in Cbus and he pointed out that he was collecting rents in cash with a pistol and his day to day was anything but fun. 


 I am always on the look out for users who have been on the site longer than me.  I haven't found many still around.  I'm not sure there are any with joined dates older than yours still on the site!  The site has changed tremendously.  Glad to see there are still some original voices on here.


 Why thank you Sir. I originally found BP to help myself nagivate the waters of RE. Now I am here to help others, though I do still learn daily. 

I remember studying your business model early on through your posts and early podcast episodes. We also met at the speaker's dinner at J. Martin's RE Summit in Oakland in ~2018. If I remember you left your family in Vegas at a birthday celebration to come speak. Now that is service! Cheers to you.


I was at that J Martin event I miss his events  fun guy.

Yes you were. You spoke on a panel about home building, and I asked you a question from the crowd. That discussion pushed me towards ground up construction, where I finally find myself today. So thank you.

Post: Experience of OOS investing in Cleveland after 1.5 years.

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362
Quote from @Chris Clothier:
Quote from @Ryan Arth:
You’re right. Keep your focus on how many crappy properties you can buy each year, instead of buying fewer but better properties. Focus on “scaling quickly.” Collect properties instead of money. It’s a winning strategy…..

Way back when BP started, before we used our real names, a prominent guy on here named Mike in OH said "focus on your ROI, not your door count". You are investing for return on capital.

Someone had congratulated him for how many doors he had in Cbus and he pointed out that he was collecting rents in cash with a pistol and his day to day was anything but fun. 


 I am always on the look out for users who have been on the site longer than me.  I haven't found many still around.  I'm not sure there are any with joined dates older than yours still on the site!  The site has changed tremendously.  Glad to see there are still some original voices on here.


 Why thank you Sir. I originally found BP to help myself nagivate the waters of RE. Now I am here to help others, though I do still learn daily. 

I remember studying your business model early on through your posts and early podcast episodes. We also met at the speaker's dinner at J. Martin's RE Summit in Oakland in ~2018. If I remember you left your family in Vegas at a birthday celebration to come speak. Now that is service! Cheers to you.

Post: Ohio Expansion - looking for agents/wholesalers

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362

@Nick Garton If I help with your Akron expansion plans just reach out. 

Post: Experience of OOS investing in Cleveland after 1.5 years.

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362
Quote from @Luka Jozic:
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

Agree with @Eric Gerakos you're just adding problem children. You don't need more properties. You need to develop a subject matter expertise and treat this like the hands on business that it is. 

Narrow your focus, stop buying properties, and figure out what you actually know really well rather than letting FOMO, spreadsheet calculations on faulty pro formas, and advice of strangers on the internet influence your investment decisions. 

I don't want to pile on...we've all made mistakes and figure things out as we go. Be kind to yourself and feel free to send me a DM if you think that I can be helpful resource.

That makes sense but yes I do have FOMO, house prices have historically increased faster than rents, thats a nation wide trend. That only means one thing and that is that soon, you won't be able to really cashflow anywhere, not even Cleveland. Thats why I've been taking on a strategy with buying as much as possible as fast as possible, and stop the bleeding later. Rather than buying one at a time at a much slower pace with no bleeding but then soon it won't make sense to buy at all, the ship has already sailed. The bleeding can always be stopped later on but it will mean not cash-flowing during that scaling phase, but buying once the price to rent ratio hits a certain point wont make sense, and then I will have wished I bought more when I could. Im not sure which way is best, but I hope that way of looking at it at least makes sense?

 There is an old saying that might apply here. "The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

Assuming that this market will rise to the level of "everywhere else" and not inflate in relative lockstep with other markets may turn out not to be an accurate assumption.  

Post: Is 44120 a good neighborhood

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362

There is a huge spread between property type and tenant attractiveness within that zip. The viability of an AirBnb strategy would also fluctuate widely based on where it was, ie at 116th and Kinsman vs on Dorchester in Shaker hts... Without looking, there is easily a 10x price variation in that zip. 

Post: Experience of OOS investing in Cleveland after 1.5 years.

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362
You’re right. Keep your focus on how many crappy properties you can buy each year, instead of buying fewer but better properties. Focus on “scaling quickly.” Collect properties instead of money. It’s a winning strategy…..

Way back when BP started, before we used our real names, a prominent guy on here named Mike in OH said "focus on your ROI, not your door count". You are investing for return on capital.

Someone had congratulated him for how many doors he had in Cbus and he pointed out that he was collecting rents in cash with a pistol and his day to day was anything but fun. 

Post: Recommendations for good handyman/GC?

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362
Quote from @Jack Kehoe:

Hi Everyone,

I own 8 units in Cleveland and recently my property management company has been choosing vendors that charge extremely high prices for any fix.  Any good recommendations for cheap handyman/GC?


Thanks so much!


 This is the least likely thing for people to publish on BP, as finding them is key to the business and promoting them on here will inundate them with calls. 

Post: Looking to network

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362

Nicole, the slyman's one moved around the corner to the tavern of Independence. Thanks for the shout out though. 

Nicole runs her own in Stow if you are down that way. Reach out to her for details. 

@Damein White I have a buddy who has 50 MTR doors here, he just bought a defunct motel near the Clinic to convert to more units. I can connect you if you reach out. 

Post: Looking for Mentor in Cleveland Area

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362

@Chad Gordon There are maybe a dozen or two local investors that are active/semi-active on BP. There are dozens that attend area investing meetups, and thousands (small and large) that do not. Build your network, everyone that is even one step ahead of you presents an opportunity to learn. 

Post: MBA, practical to a real estate professional or not?

Ryan ArthPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Cleveland / Akron, OH
  • Posts 819
  • Votes 362

To piggyback on what Kristi said, there are also a lot of specific courses out there to get specialized knowledge. For development, like she mentioned, the Urban Land Institute has online courses on various aspects of development, as well as on financial modeling for R.E.. CCIM also has a variety of online classes on the same subjects. And Linkedin learning has online classes on R.E. modeling. Then there are the four-ish class R.E. certificate programs at Cornell, Harvard, etc. 


The mentioned classes range from like $79 to $13,000 (for a full certificate). So there is a wealth of knowledge out there.