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All Forum Posts by: Andrew Angerer

Andrew Angerer has started 17 posts and replied 226 times.

Post: Analyzing a property - New investor

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183

Typically closing costs are 5.5% at a very minimum, yours should be much higher. Also, keep in mind that if you want to put that little cash down, you will need to get a FHA loan, which I believe requires you to live in it, this is not a big deal if you plan to do that, but that cuts out your income.

Also your monthly expenses should be roughly 50% of your income according to the 50% rule. 

Be sure to double check your repairs, 4000 is very minimal repairs and you really should try to find a property that has the possibility to value add.

Post: New investor from Canton, OH

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183

Welcome! the best way to connect on here is to ask questions and offer advice on the forums. It seems like you have a good idea of what to do already. 

Best of luck!

Post: Why have others given up? (conversation starter)

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183

I love your last sentence, so many people are in it for the instant gratification. Sounds like all of these guru people still prey on people.  I love the idea of being able to have properties super close by. I have never heard of Sylvania, Ohio are you in the north?

Post: Why have others given up? (conversation starter)

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183
Originally posted by @Dan Schweit:

@Andrew Angerer

Great question! I didn’t read all the responses, but I’m going to answer from personal experience. I have been there. I sort of still am. It’s ultimately analysis paralysis in my experience. I’ve bought rentals, which seem safer and less risky than flips. The plan B in flipping seems non existent, either calculate all variables correctly, or risk losing time and money. It was honestly easier for me to put $250k into a small franchise than actually pull the trigger on a flip, which in hindsight was a horrible decision.

Since you bring it up. Any tips on how to overcome the doubt?

Dan

 Too bad about the franchise! But I agree with you about wanting to buy rentals and not do a flip, it sounds less risky.

As far as overcoming doubt, I like to think that if I DONT do it, the outcome would be years and years more of 9-5 work that slowly robs me of my health. It's probably not super effective for other people but it works for me. 

Post: Why have others given up? (conversation starter)

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183
Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:

@Andrew Angerer. Lack of money, having kids, lack of education, no time, all these are reasons people give up.

I work full time, I’m in school, and I do real estate. I don’t have a lot of free time. Most people wouldn’t do all of that. Most people would give up for any number of reasons

 People seem to wear the word busy as a "badge" of honor and use it to make themselves feel better, but also as a great excuse to get out of anything.

Post: Why have others given up? (conversation starter)

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183

I never dreamed of getting so many great responses.. thanks everyone!

Post: Why have others given up? (conversation starter)

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183
Originally posted by @Llewelyn A.:

There are a lot more DREAMERs than there are DOers.

A lot of people DREAM of being a successful Real Estate Investor.

They claim to be very motivated. BUT, when it actually comes to DOING.... they never pull the trigger.

Even making a small mistake and learning from it is still better than never having done anything at all.

I remember reading about the psychology of happiness when it comes to vacations.

If you break down the vacation into two phases, the Planning Phase and the actual Vacation Phase, the majority of people are happier in the PLANNING phase.

That's because they day dream of a PERFECT vacation where it never rains, the hotel doesn't have bugs or the AC is never broken, etc.

To me, that's like a lot of beginner Real Estate Investors. They are so happy dreaming about being a Successful Real Estate Investor that when it comes to actually doing the HARD work of making it happen they fail to LIVE the Dream. They are most happy in their fantasy of what it's like to be a successful Real Estate Investor.

It's the same for those that want to be a highly skilled professional. For instance, many may dream of being a Medical Doctor.

So they may even enroll in College but when they hit the Organic Chemistry course, it weeds them right out. They don't have the true motivation, determination or discipline to live their dreams.

I have come to accept that fact among my friends, family and students.

 Well said, taking and passing organic chemistry made me a man. I think you hit the nail on the head. Although easier said than done, doing is way more important than dreaming. That is why I have been taking real world action steps towards furthering my real estate investing goals. Please tell me what your latest action steps have been. 

Post: Why have others given up? (conversation starter)

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183
Originally posted by @Kerry Noble Jr:

simply put......their "why" isnt strong enough........I just dove in wholesaling.....because my "Why" was so strong.......

 Tell us sir, what is your why? I think you have a good reason, the room is dying to know what is driving you so maybe we could capture a little bit of it and apply it to our lives. 

Post: Why have others given up? (conversation starter)

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183
Originally posted by @Bill Plymouth:

I think the biggest issue people have is the inability to take action. They get stuck in a state of analysis paralysis afraid to move forward because of potential mistakes.  They constantly analyze thinking that if they prepare enough, no mistake will ever be made, but they are never prepared enough to move forward.

 Do you think this has to do with emotional response to owning property?? The more I learn about real estate investing the more I believe that anyone can do it as long as they can set their emotions aside. Do we live in an over-analytical era?

Post: Scouting Dayton Ohio properties

Andrew AngererPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 234
  • Votes 183

PS. I spend every other weekends in Indianapolis, let me know if you are interested in any properties in that area. I know the city has been mentioned a number of times in recent bigger pockets podcast.