All Forum Posts by: Michael L.
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Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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The closing cost also includes 1yr of Insurance ($792), about a month's of interest ($468), and initial escrow deposit ($958).
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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ugh...my previous post looked nice and fancy in tabular format before posting...will try again
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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- East Bay, CA
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Purchase Price | $ 167,500.00 | .. |
Rent | $ 2,200.00 | .. |
Loan Duration yrs | 30 | .. |
Interest Rate% | 4.625% | .. |
Down Payment | $ 41,875.00 | .. |
Dwn Pmt % | 25% | .. |
Closing Costs | $ 7,718.13 | .. |
.. | Annual | Monthly |
Taxes | $ 2,081.64 | $ 173.47 |
Insurance | $ 792.00 | $ 66.00 |
Vacancy% | 10% | $ 220.00 |
Repairs% | 10% | $ 220.00 |
Property Mgt% | 8% | $ 176.00 |
Mortgage Payment | .. | $ 645.89 |
Utilities + Landscaping | $ 2,580.00 | $ 215.00 |
Total Monthly Expenses | $ 1,716.36 | |
Theoretical Cash Flow | $ 483.64 | |
.. | .. | .. |
Cash On Cash | 11.70% |
The closing costs are my exact numbers, which includes Appraisal an Inspection. I use a 10% vacancy and repair number based on BP expertise.
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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- East Bay, CA
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Just signed the papers for my 2nd Duplex with Elite Invest! Really happy about this one. The rehab job Elite does seems to be getting better over time. I noticed small details like crown molding, better tiling work, etc. This particular property still had some original woodwork in the entrance area that was retained and restored which gives it a nice touch:
Screenshots were taken from the inspection videos.
Tenants in place, signed the PM papers, and now the waiting game for the checks to roll in :).
I'll try and follow-up with some estimated cash flow numbers shortly.
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Haha, I guess bathtub valve dripping and bathtub leaking are 2 very different things, and yes, valve dripping really isn't a huge deal. I guess it would be nice if the notes are more clear in nature!
I figured the issues were minor since Elite has very good reputation and honestly, their rehab looks pretty good. We were thinking about investing in Chicago but decided not to because of the super high property tax and state income tax. I was particularly interested in Elite more than Mack because it makes more sense to me to own MF in large metropolitan areas such as Chicago. Thank you again for posting your experience in the forums, you have provided great examples and insight for us and for our future purchasing decisions.
Good luck!
Thanks Doris! I try to post as if my audience were me 1yr ago, or something like that. I definitely had my reservations (not the greatest neighborhood, Sec8, etc.), but as time goes on, I become more confident in my decision.
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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Regarding the management portal used by Elite PM, it's AppFolio, which gets the job done but is lacking in features. Since I prefer a very passive approach, it'd be nice to have a auto-report generated each month on all activities on my units. The portal only allows ad-hoc reports. Boooo....
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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I had similar concerns with certain things like the bathtub leaking. The description in the 'management portal' isn't verbose, but the tub leak was referring to the valve (dripping). If it were an actual leak outside the tub, yes, I would be furious as that could cause major issues. Also, the descriptions in the portal are typically a PM rep jotting down very short notes from a tenant calling in. The good thing is, is that their maintenance crew is on it timely. I haven't dug into these maintenance items too deep, but it's something I'll keep an eye on to make sure it doesn't get out of hand.
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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Originally posted by @Kevin Trumbull:
I'm going to subscribe to this thread to track your progress, thanks for the updates @Michael L.. Have you maybe considered posting these in your member blog so that people can more easily subscribe to your updates?
Thanks for the heads up Kevin. I don't post that often and didn't even consider the blog section. Will let you know if I end up starting something over there.
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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Originally posted by @Mark Ainley:
@Michael L.sorry about that. I was curious to how you were holding the property where you had to pay taxes but if you own it personally that makes sense. With second property under contract are you considering an LLC?
I wasn't planning on it, but since you mention it, I should look into it :). What's your recommendation?
By the way, really learned a lot from your podcast (https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2014/05/2...) and made me see Sec8 differently. Also, awesome tip on cash for keys!
Post: Opening the Kimono: My Out-of-State REI Experience

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Hi @Michael L.
Thanks for sharing your experiencing again. I read through the whole thread and the biggest thing that jumped out at me was the fact that, as far as I know, Elite does a full rehab on these homes and put in new appliances and such before handing them off to investors. You seemed to have quite a bit of repairs on this "brand new" rehab.
I understand things break from usage, especially if the tenants are sloppy or aggressive towards their household items, but seriously! First year?! I know they were all small fixes but that makes me a little worried about the stuff they are putting into the homes!
Hi Doris, you bring up a valid point, so I went through and looked at what exactly the repair/maintenance was. Here is a snapshot: furnace filter replacement, air filter replacement, weatherstripping on porch door, issues with rear door lock, kitchen sink draining slowly, stove bulb missing, front vent not staying open (prob a heater vent since it was in Nov), bathtub leaking. I haven't totaled the parts, but it looks to be $150 ish. The labor (warrantied for 1 yr) would've probably been about $200-300.
These are gut rehabs, with all the major stuff brand new. The recent inspector I used does a good number of Elite property inspections, and he mentioned their work continues to improve, which is very positive. I'd say the quality of the stuff is pretty standard stuff you'll find at Home Depot or similar. i.e. construction grade. The Chicago winters likely attribute to the higher frequency of certain repairs is my guess.
I'll continue to post information that might be helpful to others as time permits. Keep the comments and questions coming and I'll try to respond as best as possible :).