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All Forum Posts by: Belinda R.

Belinda R. has started 20 posts and replied 90 times.

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Vinny Gaines:

Whatever you do dont be afraid to continue with what your original real estate goals are. Just learn from this lesson and keep investing....the horse will be waiting for you to get back on it. 

 Thanks for the encouragement! Ive had a desire to be a full time investor for the past 10 yrs. I've saved, worked hard to be able to invest. It's going to take a lot more than this to make me walk away. Can't do nothing but dust myself and go back at it. 

Post: Than Merrill - Wealth Builders Seminar

Belinda R.Posted
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  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
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I've taken the 3 day class. Either the second or third day, they're going to introduce their Mastery program that'll run about $25k. Next they'll create a sense of urgency saying there are only a few slots available and just because you apply, doesn't mean you will be selected. I submitted an application for kicks, was interviewed and chosen for Mastery. There are three programs introduced, I believe one is for $9k, the second is for $14k and Mastery is for $25k. The software they've developed is phenomenal. I asked if I could just go with the $14k plan and was denied!!!! LOL!!!! I was told I was wasn't a candidate for the $14k program only the Mastery Level program for $25k! I declined and they called called called!. They've hired some of the best sales people you will ever meet! So good, I almost took the bait. I  asked them to never call me again. If I were a high producing investor and if  $25k was a  drop in the bucket I would consider it because they have some of the best systems I've seen marketed. Starting out, don't waste your money.

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @J Scott:

While certain liens may legally take precedence over a first-lien mortgage (like an IRS lien), the buyer can't willfully kick you out of first position by taking on another loan/lien.  The other lien holder would either have to take a secondary security position, or secure the loan with something else.

So, you don't have to worry about the buyer getting a HELOC or another loan...

 Thanks for the response. This is good to know.

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Belinda R.:

K. Marie Poe

 its an all cash sale

So with a $50K all cash offer, I say counter with your number and offer seller financing for the balance.  Last year I sold to owner occupants with $150K cash and carried back a small note in first position to get the deal where I needed it to be.  Lien in first position with tons of equity is about as strong a position a lender can be in.

Quick question. If I owner finance for $15k and the buyer takes out a home equity line of credit after closing for $20k. Does my position change? Or will I remain in first position?

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Jesse T.:

What are you offering for co-op with the buyer's agent?  You might try offering 4% vs. the usual 3%.  That should generate some visits/offers if nothing else.  

3%. I did consider upping the commission at one point. 

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34

In all fairness, I just paid my agent a flat fee to list the home. I take 100% responsiblity for this error. As a former realtor I felt comfortable analyzing the comps provided and pricing the home myself. I'm not really familiar with the county I bought the home in (mistake #1), My agent isn't either. Its amazing as to how drastic markets can be from one county to another that's only 30 mins apart. I ventured off to another county because I kept getting priced out of properties I was bidding on in the area I'm familiar with (mistake #2), I should have been more patient vs jumping the gun. As I mentioned before, after I bought the house foreclosures started popping up in the neighbor I bought which has impacted the value. Another BP member bought to my attention home prices fell 16.7% in that county. I wasn't aware it was that drastic. Add that to all the other factors I mentioned, i.e.house located on a busy street etc. makes for a recipe disaster! I've learned a lot. I'm pondering some creative exit strategies proposed by BP. I will keep you all updated :)

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Jim Sakalis:

@ Belinda OMG! Is all I can say about your current situation and the suggestions that others have given.  Okay, that is not entirely true.  I actually have a much better solution to your dilemma.  

I hope I do not offend anyone on the thread when I give you other options.  I will try and walk on egg shells as I tackle each one. 

Let's start with your $50k cash offer and holding a 2nd mortgage on the remaining amount.  I'm guessing your attorney that had advised you does not know that much about real estate transactions or withheld some very important information. Although he/she was correct about the one part about having to foreclose if payment was not made there is a better option to help protect you.

As for that other person in this thread suggesting you take 50k and hold a 2nd in hopes to foreclose, unless you like having someone live in your home rent free for 12-24 months than I would not raise my hand for that. ( Been there, did that. No f- - -king thank you) 

Now here is some better options to help you out of your current situation.  

1) You could take that buyers $50k and go with one of the other people in this thread mentioned, " get them to go up on your asking price of $94k provided that is in fact one that would appraise.  Now comes the little creative part.  You could deed the property over while holding the 2nd mortgage, but have them sign a quit claim back to you in case of their default.  This way if they get stupid you can evict instead of going through the foreclosure part.  ( I would run this by a real estate attorney on how to structure that or I could show you.) 

2) Option, you could offer lease purchase terms at full asking price with some down payment in place. Start getting monthly residual while getting the continued tax write offs.  You can write off up to 70% as a loss for the first 5 years on a rental property and if they default you keep the down payment tax free because there was never a closing that took place. ( Again, be sure to talk to your local CPA because some states may have different laws, but I do believe it to be true in all 50 states.)

3) Fire your agent.  This is an extra cost you don't need.  If you don't know the first thing about marketing a home for sale or drawing up contracts, negotiations, etc you can always hire an agent on a retainer to help with minimal services. 

4) If you are really wanting to get cashed out to buy another property than I guess the 50k seller held 2nd would be the most attractive of the 3 options above.

Now we have a turn key operation at our investment company where we can get our fellow investors 100% financing deals all day long.  In addition, we provide a 50/50 partnership and have a tenant/buyer already in place before you close on the home.  Now if it needs work we roll in all those cost into the loan as well to make it easy for you. Just something to consider moving forward on your next venture.

Don't beat yourself up too bad.  You can still come out of this in great shape provided you follow one of these above options.  If not, we may watch you run off the side of the cliff.

Feel free to reach out to me if you have questions.

Peace,

 Any upfront fees associated with your funding? I'm curios as to how you're offering 100% financing. 

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Justin Owens:

@Belinda R. 

Not sure why you are so willing to take a loss on this property when you already own it outright. You've put all this work and money into it, you'd be better off renting it out for a year. Put some cash back into your account, then try and sell it again next year. You could also just refiance it and pull 80% of your cash out and use it to fund your next deal. 

I don't know your situation, and maybe you just need the money back ASAP, but it looks like you are sitting in a good spot with a fully paid asset. You can sell it for a loss anytime.  Since you own it out right you could even hire PM to take care of it for you and still cash flow. 

There have been quite a few foreclosures popping up in the area since I bought the house in 2013. Im afraid this will have a negative impact on my property's value. This will also impact the amount that can be pulled out in a cash refinance, rental potential, etc. I've weighed every option everyone has suggested. If I sell at $65k, I can move on and recoup my losses on a better deal. Also, I want to flip a couple of deals before becoming a landlord. I cant find a lender who will do over 75% LTV. I assume you have a local bank that'll do 80%. A lot of the local banks here wont even touch NOO cash out refinance, only owner occupants.

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Bob E.:

If the seller defaults the house will go to FC and you will get what is owed to you including late fees. legal fees, remaining principle balance etc.  You might get delayed but nothing to fear here.

You could also market the house with owner financing.  Something along the lines of $5,000 down and $500 a month buys this house.  You can then sell 5 years of payments for  @ 20k and do that every 5 years for 30 years and you will net 120k over time.

If you sell with the 50k down you can finance 25k for 10 years at 6% and the payment comes out to $277.55.  you can then sell the remaining balance on this note to a broker for @18k at (for a 14% yield) or find an end buyer looking for  10% and net 21k, or hold if for 10 years and collect 33k in payments.

Lot of options here.

Hi Bob,

I have been researching note buying for the past two months. Came across a website I believe was called "Note Queen". I read up on it and didn't quite understand how the whole selling partial notes worked. I did also read that the amount paid for the note depends on how long the note has been seasoned  and how well its performed over time.  I understand selling the whole note at a discount but not Im still foggy on  partial notes.  Im not interested in doing on this property but this could be a strategy I use in the future. Great advice.

Post: Newbie Can't sell Flip!

Belinda R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntsville, al
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 34

K. Marie Poe

 its an all cash sale
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