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Post: Your Loan Has A Due On Sale Clause

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Another bag of popcorn, please
Post: Optimal order of funding

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Quote from @Zeni Kharel:
Hi everyone,
As a high-income earner, what is the optimal order of funding tax-deferred and tax-advantaged accounts to maximize tax savings? I am considering the following options: contributing to a 401(k), paying down high-interest debt, funding an HSA, and making a backdoor Roth contribution.
Thank you.
Best,
Zeni Kharel
As a HML I see people in desperate situations all the time. Their typical PFS show $5, 10 or 50 million in assets, and $3,500 liquid. I’m a BIG believer in cash reserves - like 15%+ of your assets.
For me a great wealth builder was (1) a DEFINED BENEFIT plan allowing me to defer tax on up to $350,000 per year at age 50 when I was in the highest tax bracket; and conversion to and into a ROTH 401k (all self directed) over a 5 year period at a lower bracket and a BIG discount for the non liquidity of my retirement portfolio investments.
After 45 years as an investor in real estate, REITs, limited partnerships, businesses and as a general partner in real estate and mortgage note syndications, as well as manager of real estate funds and high yield mortgage funds, I can tell you that the number one component of long term, sustainable investment success is STAYING POWER. If you are forced to liquidate at market bottoms; if you lose everything in a recession and have to start over; or if you don’t have the liquidity to invest during temporary “panics”, to take advantage of temporary once in a lifetime “deals”, then wealth accumulation becomes 10 times more difficult.
Post: Self Storage- Advertising

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Quote from @Henry Clark:
Just a note on one small component of our Advertising efforts.
We do Self Storage. One of our advertising outreach approaches is Sparefoot, who is a Self storage Consolidator. When a person does a search for Self Storage in an Area, there are about 18 "channels" by which Sparefoot captures their search and then will direct it to one of the storage locations in a zip code, city or geographic area.
Depending on a weighted factor Sparefoot will show you as a recommended location for an area, you might even be 15 miles away, but if their algorithm says you're the best then you will show up at the top or closer. For our area we are generally number 1 for our city and even the larger city 1mm people area next to us. We have used them for about 9 years. As one of our locations gets close to 100%, we turn off that account, since our normal "funnel" of customers will feed our needs from then on.
When we started it Cost us 1.5 months of rent for a "Reservation" that turned into a rental. Their system is on the honor system. At the end of the month you have to say which reservations turned into actual rentals. It would be very easy for a location to take rentals and not report the rental so you don't pay the fee. But to be ranked at the top of their search, you have to show you converted a larger % to actual rentals. That is a part of the Algorithm. We have learned their Algorithm. We are small Mom/Pop versus industry REIT giants, but still compete at the top.
About a year ago they started charging you a minimum of 50% of the reservations they sent you. To exaggerate, even if none turned into rentals, you would still get charged 50%. You could tell the pressure at the call center was on, because you would get reservations, talk with them and they would decide not to rent from us. After a while, I asked why? Said they were just looking but the call center booked a reservation. I have even had 2 and 3 reservations from the same customer for different sizes of units or the same on different days. You call the center and they normally will take them off as bogus reservations.
Last year they moved our 1.5 months fee up to 1.75 months. Then last month they moved it up to 2.0 months. For each rental they charge us 2 months rental for that reservation. Doesn't matter if for 1 month, a year or 10 years. Plus, you pay 50% of the "Reservations" if your rental conversion doesn't go over 50%.
Last month I looked at our Rentals and saw how many come from Sparefoot and turned them off for our largest location. We are about 82% full, use google ads, have a large bill board, plus our Vortex of community renters has picked up and we add renters organically.
This is really the story of a PE firm buying into an industry. Pushing for revenue/income scaling on a shrinking market base. But unfortunately, the industry is consolidating. The Large REITS can build their own advertising systems, plus google ads, etc.
If you're in Self storage, what other avenues are you using for marketing from a Consolidator standpoint? We have website, SEO, Billboard, google Ads, Bus seats, covered.
If you're not in Self Storage, what RE industry trends are you seeing in your consolidator or Advertising methods? See if I can take some queues from AIRBNB, ST/MT/LT rental markets.
As we get close to 90% at all locations, we turn off Advertising, since our local Vortex feeds enough renters to us.
Start small and Make Your Big Mistakes Early.
one of our main advertising media was Scotsman Guide, a magazine and online directory of direct lenders for the mortgage industry. Due to extensive reach, high use, accurate listings, and ease of use it is far and away the biggest and best method for a lender to reach mortgage brokers with needs relevant to the lenders offerings.
We were medium size advertisers / listings for about 8 years. Three years ago we received notification that Scotsman Guide has been able to streamline, and to “share” the savings with their advertisers there would be no increase in rates for the new year. However, there would be some “changes” to our existing contract.
Turns out the “changes” are that our directory listing that previously covered us nationwide (50 states plus DC and PR) would now cover 5 states we select - and any additional states are available for an additional $200 / month EACH. This “change” in actuality increases our bill from $7,200 per year to $120,000! We decided to place our advertising $ elsewhere.
Post: Real Estate Drip Campaigns That Actually Convert

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Quote from @Shad Rockstad:

Most investors and agents collect leads, but the real challenge is staying in touch until those leads are ready to act. If you don’t have a plan to stay visible, you’re leaving money on the table.
What is a Real Estate Drip Campaign and Why It Matters
A real estate drip campaign is a series of automated emails or texts sent to leads over time. Instead of sending one-off messages, you’re staying consistent and relevant.
Why it matters:
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Keeps you top-of-mind without constant manual effort
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Re-engages cold leads who might otherwise forget you
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Educates buyers and sellers with valuable tips
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Generates repeat and referral business
Done right, drip campaigns build trust while you focus on active deals.
How to Do It Right
Step 1: Segment your list – Separate buyers, sellers, past clients, and investors. Each group should receive messages tailored to their goals.
Step 2: Set a goal for each sequence – Examples: book a listing appointment, schedule a showing, or deliver a home value report. One clear goal makes the campaign more effective.
Step 3: Keep messages simple – One clear call-to-action per email. Avoid clutter and make it easy for the reader to take the next step.
Sample Templates or Scenarios
Buyer Drip Sequence
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Email 1: Welcome and expectations
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Email 2: Neighborhood guide
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Email 3: Financing checklist
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Email 4: Market update
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Email 5: Tour invitation
Seller Drip Sequence
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Email 1: Free home value report
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Email 2: Pre-listing prep tips
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Email 3: Marketing plan overview
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Email 4: Neighborhood comparison
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Email 5: Strategy session invite
Past Client Nurture
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Email 1: Home anniversary note
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Email 2: Seasonal maintenance tips
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Email 3: Local events and news
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Email 4: Referral request
Mistakes to Avoid
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Generic messaging – Personalization is key
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Overloading subscribers – Space out emails for balance
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No mobile formatting – Most emails are opened on phones
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Skipping the CTA – Every message should move the lead forward
Final Thoughts
Leads rarely convert the first time you talk to them. Most need reminders, education, and time before they are ready. Drip campaigns make sure you are in front of them when the timing is right.
Post: Your Loan Has A Due On Sale Clause

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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @James Hamling:
@Ken M. you promote:
- Buy off-market: ok, obvious reasoning for that, no explanation needed there.
- Buy via Sub2: I assume this is to mitigate $ outlay into securing inventory, correct?
- Sell via LWO: Why? Why LWO? Is this to "hack" the market for driving buyers where buyers are a bit thin? Or to "hack" the price you get on contract where current market price is a bit lower because your getting buyers chasing their hopeium of being able to buy in those near term years?
Why LWO vs C4D?
LWO opens one to all the downsides of tenant laws, and you loose uncapped earning potential because sold a purchase option on it capping self.
Step 1, I 100% get and 0 qualms with, it's just factual.
Step 2, ok, it's a method and while I have some qualms with it there all centered around the mechanics of who and how. Done right, 0 issues with it. The rub is so much BS promoting how to do it wrong out there.
Step 3, the LWO has me confused. Buyers are tenants so held to all that jazz as a landlord, and concerns it drives the wrong kind of tenant/buyer. Making for a setup of non-closing buyers and a revolving door of damage repairs.
Your question: "Step 3, the LWO has me confused."
It gets a little complicated so I'll try to make sense. When you want to provide financing to a buyer and you want to sell as a seller doing Lease/Options as creative finance:
1. I get 10% non refundable Option Fee upfront - on a $400,000 house, that's $40,000.
2. Yes, under the lease agreement you become a landlord and have all of the landlord responsibilities. However, in the separate document, the Option, the Optionee takes over responsibilities for maintenance & repairs. Now, the landlord/tenant laws generally make the landlord responsible for those items. So, included in the Option is a clause that the Optionee takes full responsibility for the property as though they already own the property. If they violate that maintenance clause, they lose the Option and the nonrefundable option fee. They are still tenants for the term of the lease, but no longer have the Option. Under the Lease agreement, they can still demand that I fulfill the Lease terms and fix the roof, replace the AC, repair the porch, which I will gladly do, but then they lose the Option. (the strategy has not yet been disputed in court, as most people just make the repairs.)
I had a call in Arizona during the summer once, it was 115 degrees, "Hey Ken, the AC broke, will you have it fixed" I said "sure, we always follow the contracts, let me take a look at the Lease and Option agreements" I texted the part from the Option agreement that it is their responsibility to fix the AC, "but I will have it fixed and we will throw away the Option". "The Option fee is nonrefundable". "Which would you like us to do" They said "don't worry, we'll fix it". I bought a floor AC Unit from Lowes and took it over for them to use for the three days it took to for them get someone out to repair the AC. There was no arguing, no confrontation, no problems.
2. When you own a property, you get the tax write offs and depreciation. When you sell a property you pay capital gains. About one out of three of our Lease/Options, "fail" That is, the Optionee decides not to exercise their Option. So, we re-Lease/Option for another 10% Option fee to someone new.
We treat people as grown ups and if they change their mind, it's their decision. We remind them that the Option fee is non-refundable. But we do offer to apply the Option fee to a different property if that is their preference. Any "improvements" they make stay with the house, of course. We remind people every 6 months, that it takes time to put together financing to complete the Option purchase. We document everything. We provide documentation that they paid on time, when they have paid on time.
This is all done by text, which is efficient and gives us documentation on what went on. Yes, I've won court cases based on text documentation. There are other "tricks of the trade" we teach those who want to use this strategy.
This would not fly in Minnesota, not at all.
State law on tenant rights supersedes any agreement otherwise, and thus you can make any contract you want but second it goes to court the Judge will say it's unenforceable and throw it out.
Next, a 10% of purchase price Option Fee, wowzers that's expensive. That is way above market rate in MN. That's in-line with C4D down payments.
And that's the rub, your doing a C4D, but calling it a LWO so you get the tax benefit's of a LWO and the benefits of a C4D. That may go under the radar in some markets but I have 100% certainty the AG's office would catch that right off the bat and then one would have a whole other level of legal hell to deal with. Because next there gonna start pealing the onion of ALL your transactions, even digging into closed ones for past years.
Minnesota AG's office is no joke, you do NOT want to be a target of theirs. Keep in mind, this is the same group who took down Phillip Morris.
I don't know enough of the legal in's and out's in every other state but I am willing to bet there is more like MN then not, which would find your work around for tenant laws doesn't hold water and throws that out. And would see straight through what your doing, and open to all the liability from such.
I say not worth it.
If gonna do a C4D, just do a dang C4D. Don't try to scam your way around things to squeeze some extra pennies out of it at risk of blowing up your everything.
Honestly Ken, this is no better than what Pace is doing. Your better then that Ken. Take the high road. Don't try to scheme for every penny ignoring risk and liability exposure. Which BTW, last's for years and years on end even years after a deal is done and closed out. Because all it takes is that 1 instance, and then they dig through history to find every single potential instance for all years they can nail a person for.
I’m reaching for the popcorn……going to be entertaining
Post: What are lp in syndications looking for?

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While it’s still possible to “bootstrap” a syndication as a sponsor, it is much more likely to cost a fair amount upfront. Here’s an estimate of “startup” costs
1. Legal Reg D compliance - $15,000 +
2. Professional website - $5.000
3. Investor interface software - $10,000 +
4. Online marketing / promotion - $10,000 +
5. Earnest money for proposed purchase. - $25,000
6. Loan application, appraisal, title report, etc. for proposed purchase - $15,000
7. Working capital - $25,000
Minimum initial capital BEFORE first dollar of syndication money raised - $105,000
Post: Your Loan Has A Due On Sale Clause

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Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @James Hamling:
@Ken M. you promote:
- Buy off-market: ok, obvious reasoning for that, no explanation needed there.
- Buy via Sub2: I assume this is to mitigate $ outlay into securing inventory, correct?
- Sell via LWO: Why? Why LWO? Is this to "hack" the market for driving buyers where buyers are a bit thin? Or to "hack" the price you get on contract where current market price is a bit lower because your getting buyers chasing their hopeium of being able to buy in those near term years?
Why LWO vs C4D?
LWO opens one to all the downsides of tenant laws, and you loose uncapped earning potential because sold a purchase option on it capping self.
Step 1, I 100% get and 0 qualms with, it's just factual.
Step 2, ok, it's a method and while I have some qualms with it there all centered around the mechanics of who and how. Done right, 0 issues with it. The rub is so much BS promoting how to do it wrong out there.
Step 3, the LWO has me confused. Buyers are tenants so held to all that jazz as a landlord, and concerns it drives the wrong kind of tenant/buyer. Making for a setup of non-closing buyers and a revolving door of damage repairs.
Your question: "Step 3, the LWO has me confused."
It gets a little complicated so I'll try to make sense. When you want to provide financing to a buyer and you want to sell as a seller doing Lease/Options as creative finance:
1. I get 10% non refundable Option Fee upfront - on a $400,000 house, that's $40,000.
2. Yes, under the lease agreement you become a landlord and have all of the landlord responsibilities. However, in the separate document, the Option, the Optionee takes over responsibilities for maintenance & repairs. Now, the landlord/tenant laws generally make the landlord responsible for those items. So, included in the Option is a clause that the Optionee takes full responsibility for the property as though they already own the property. If they violate that maintenance clause, they lose the Option and the nonrefundable option fee. They are still tenants for the term of the lease, but no longer have the Option. Under the Lease agreement, they can still demand that I fulfill the Lease terms and fix the roof, replace the AC, repair the porch, which I will gladly do, but then they lose the Option. (the strategy has not yet been disputed in court, as most people just make the repairs.)
I had a call in Arizona during the summer once, it was 115 degrees, "Hey Ken, the AC broke, will you have it fixed" I said "sure, we always follow the contracts, let me take a look at the Lease and Option agreements" I texted the part from the Option agreement that it is their responsibility to fix the AC, "but I will have it fixed and we will throw away the Option". "The Option fee is nonrefundable". "Which would you like us to do" They said "don't worry, we'll fix it". I bought a floor AC Unit from Lowes and took it over for them to use for the three days it took to for them get someone out to repair the AC. There was no arguing, no confrontation, no problems.
2. When you own a property, you get the tax write offs and depreciation. When you sell a property you pay capital gains. About one out of three of our Lease/Options, "fail" That is, the Optionee decides not to exercise their Option. So, we re-Lease/Option for another 10% Option fee to someone new.
We treat people as grown ups and if they change their mind, it's their decision. We remind them that the Option fee is non-refundable. But we do offer to apply the Option fee to a different property if that is their preference. Any "improvements" they make stay with the house, of course. We remind people every 6 months, that it takes time to put together financing to complete the Option purchase. We document everything. We provide documentation that they paid on time, when they have paid on time.
This is all done by text, which is efficient and gives us documentation on what went on. Yes, I've won court cases based on text documentation. There are other "tricks of the trade" we teach those who want to use this strategy.
‘WOW…. sometimes I have trouble getting 10% down payment on a sale!
Post: Your Loan Has A Due On Sale Clause

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Quote from @James Hamling:
@Ken M. you promote:
- Buy off-market: ok, obvious reasoning for that, no explanation needed there.
- Buy via Sub2: I assume this is to mitigate $ outlay into securing inventory, correct?
- Sell via LWO: Why? Why LWO? Is this to "hack" the market for driving buyers where buyers are a bit thin? Or to "hack" the price you get on contract where current market price is a bit lower because your getting buyers chasing their hopeium of being able to buy in those near term years?
Why LWO vs C4D?
LWO opens one to all the downsides of tenant laws, and you loose uncapped earning potential because sold a purchase option on it capping self.
Step 1, I 100% get and 0 qualms with, it's just factual.
Step 2, ok, it's a method and while I have some qualms with it there all centered around the mechanics of who and how. Done right, 0 issues with it. The rub is so much BS promoting how to do it wrong out there.
Step 3, the LWO has me confused. Buyers are tenants so held to all that jazz as a landlord, and concerns it drives the wrong kind of tenant/buyer. Making for a setup of non-closing buyers and a revolving door of damage repairs.
For the last 25 years I’ve been ALMOST exclusively in the commercial property space.
while I’ve not been able to successfully work LWO deals, I’ve been more than a little successful with straight options (on the buy side), and owner finance or owner finance with sub to (on the sell side). In selling sub to you want to obtain a price 10 - 20% over true market value, and sell to the buyer with the best chance of fulfilling the contract. That usually means a user rather than investor, although I’ve done both.
Post: What was your biggest loss and life lesson?

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Quote from @Daniel Murphy:
While not really a loss, one of my biggest Ah Ha's in 18+ years of managing money professionally is that Financial Questions do not always need Financial Answers...
Most are familiar with personality types etc. All people process things differently.
I've learned with time, to try to run a financial question through a,
Financial lens, Behavioral lens and Emotional lens.
IE - sometimes you want a financial answer. Like calculating ROI on an investment to see if it's worth it.
Sometimes you want a Behavioral answer - Will making this decision instill new/better behaviors...
Sometimes you want an Emotional answer - Will paying off your house, increasing your savings etc. bring you more peace...
More and more, I make less than optimal financial decisions in exchange for ones that are decent financial decisions, but great happiness decisions.
Buying a 23 year old, high mileage convertable Porsche 911 is a bad financial decision. I'm totally underwater financially. But... I could care less when I'm giggling like a school girl, or tossing the keys to someone else so they can take it for a spin. :)
Nothing wrong with the above ……UNLESS you mistake it for an INVESTMENT
Post: What was your biggest loss and life lesson?

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My second divorce cost me $3 million in assets. Should have had a pre nup……….