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All Forum Posts by: Don Konipol

Don Konipol has started 200 posts and replied 5137 times.

Post: What’s the best $100 (or less) you’ve ever spent on your business?

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Quote from @Cole Bossert:

Sometimes it’s the small purchases that make the biggest impact — a piece of gear that makes field work easier, a tool that helps you run numbers faster, or a simple marketing upgrade that brings in more leads.

What’s one affordable tool, software, or setup that’s actually made your work better or more efficient?

1979 - seminar taught by Jimmy Napier

Post: Financial Software for Investors

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Quote from @Tim Hart:

Just getting started at building my portfolio. I have an LLC to use to purchase Long-Term Rentals. What software/platform is best for managing finances for investors? I know Quickbooks is the 800lb gorilla in the space, but I was hoping for something more focused on landlording. Bonus if it's cheaper than Quickbooks. TIA!

Quicken is $49.99 - $84.99 per year depending on the version and I use it and have about 40 different investment properties.  Wave is a cloud platform that is not as detailed, but can be modified easily, and the basic version is free.  

Post: Novations are Brokering Without a License. Change My Mind.

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Quote from @Scott Johnson:

Let me be more specific. I didn't have enough space in the Title:

Novations where the investor uses a Limited Listing that puts them as the primary contact for scheduling showings, receiving/accepting offers and negotiating are brokering without a license.

Novations where the investor actually hires a real estate broker to handle the aforementioned for the seller are not included. As far as I'm concerned, they're a great way to wholesale in states where they've outlawed wholesaling. 

And yes, I'm a broker. I've got something to gain. I'm Novation Listing Friendly. Deal with it.

Correct me where I'm wrong but Novations can be executed by either a Power of Attorney being given to the investor or by an investor just doing the paperwork, both being done after they secure their interest with an option contract (unless there's some other creative thing I haven't heard about yet). With the Power of Attorney, there may not be an issue. 

All I can say is that when an investor is the person who's doing the job that a real estate broker is commissioned to do, per state law, that's brokering without a license, which is no bueno and shouldn't be allowed. 

If novations are done using a broker, it's straight up CYA. Work their commission into your numbers, especially if they understand novations. 

Novation falls into the general category of equitable title and not legal title - something like CFD “Light”.   Does an investor need LEGAL title to be marketing their own property (which does not require licensure) or will equitable title do?  Does the same investor need FULL equitable title or will a partial interest do?  It will be a while until the courts will settle this, and the answer may be different in different states.

Here’s some other questions.  The investor who obtains a contract and then lists with a broker, while doing no improvements to the property and paying no mortgage payments or anything else; has done nothing the owner couldn’t do - just listed the property.  So is this fraud in some states?  If so, has the broker who accepted the listing knowingly abetted the fraud?  Has the broker violated ethical standard of either the state real estate commission of the NAR?  

Post: Why you need to manage your vendors as a note investor.....

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

We recently acquired a pool of loans from a seller who outsourced their loan servicing. Nothing unusual—except what we found buried in one of the Maryland files.

The loan had been extended three times, with $8,400 in deferred extension fees agreed upon. But the kicker? Those fees were never added to the loan balance by the prior servicer. Meaning they would’ve been lost entirely unless someone caught it.

That someone was us. Our asset manager spotted the mistake, and had our servicer correct the balance.

This isn’t just a one-off. If your servicer is on the cheapest plan available they typically are on "autopilot", these types of oversights can happen—and the financial impact adds up fast across a portfolio.

Here’s the real takeaway: even if you’re outsourcing loan servicing, you still need to manage the servicer. That means:

- Reviewing files yourself periodically

- Making sure you communicate with your vendors and follow up to confirm they did what they are supposed to do.

- Setting expectations for communication and accountability

Vendors aren’t infallible. It’s your job to ensure nothing falls through the cracks—because once money is lost, it’s hard to recover.

Managing your vendors isn't optional. It’s part of being a responsible note investor.

Have you had similar stories in the past? 

We were so dissatisfied with the three loan servicers we tried 8 years ago that we decided we might as well service our portfolio of note ourselves.  Of course with commercial notes we aren’t subject to Dodd-Frank or the CFPB. 

Post: Completed my first flip in Detroit, Michigan (Morningside)

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Quote from @Joseph Bui:

TLDR Version:

Morningside Neighborhood in Detroit, MI

4 Bedrooms, 2 bath (after rehab), 2000 sqft roughly

Purchase Price: 50k

Closing Cost at purchase: 2500

Rehab Cost: 75k
This was a full rehab. Originally the property was a 4 bedroom 1 bathroom. I converted it into a 4 bed 2 bath. Kept original flooring, but there was major damage so cost quite a bit to revive it.

Holding Cost: 1-2k
I paid cash, but there was insurance (a little pricey since it was vacant), utilities (winters can be pricey trying to keep it warm), etc.

Other maintenance stuff for selling: 5k:
Had to replace a large oversized window that got cracked somewhere between finishing rehab and going under contract. Staging was like 2k (not sure I would do that again, details below). Other small items.

Sold Price: 170k (cash offer. Prior to this offer, I was also under contract for 188k, details below).

Profit: roughly 20k after sales closing costs

Full Version:

In early 2024, I purchased a property in the Morningside neighborhood in Detroit for 50k. I already owned 6 other properties in the city, but those are long term holds. This was my first purchase with the intent to flip. I'm based out of the Seattle area and I never flew there to even look at the property. The property was run down and in terrible shape. At the time, I didn't realize brick would be in much higher demand for selling, lesson learned. This one was regular siding. The place was a 4 bed 1 bath and the whole thing needed to be redone. However, Ive been in investing in Detroit for a couple years at that time and knew Morningside was up and coming and comps in the area were 170k and higher.

Rehab ended up costing roughly 75k. This was the full works. Brand new kitchen (no applicances), nicer counter tops, new cabinets. For flooring, I attempted to keep the old hard wood, but it probably cost more to revive that, then to just put in new vinyl. The full bath was downstairs and that was fully remodeled. Upstairs, there was an oversized closet next to the master. I decided to turn that into another full bath with a standup shower and put a door connecting the master to it, as well as a hallway door. New bathroom from scratch was about 10k or so. On top of all the interior work, there was siding that needed to replaced, portions of the driveway needed to be repaved and I added a full fence. I started and nearly completed the rehab without ever setting my own eyes on it. Something I should have done was found an agent before I even started rehab and have them check on the property to make sure quality was at its highest from the beginning. I didn't get my agent involved until the last quarter of the rehab and that was a mistake. There wasn't any major issues, but I received comments that the work was on the sloppy side and could have been a little more refined. If I would have known this earlier, I would have addressed it. Overall the rehab took 5 months which was also longer than expected. Was expecting 3 months.

Once rehab was complete, October 2024, I got it listed for 185k. The first week it was on the market, it was a very hot property. Many tours and within that first week, I got my first offer. After a little back and forth, we landed at 200k with 12k in seller concessions to cover their closing costs (188k net). Buyer was also doing the Michigan first time home buyers program where their down payment would be covered by the state. At the time, I was feeling great, offer immediately, potential good profit on my first flip in Detroit. Then reality started to hit. First, I didn't get any other offers even though I never marked the property as pending. It was October and as a couple weeks passed, tours started to slowly die. Then the buyers started running into financing issues. For whatever reason they decided to switch lenders in the middle of the closing process (something about their agent wanted to use his friend). This delayed the closing by a couple of weeks. After a couple of weeks, there was some type of job loss for the buyers and they ended up not qualifying and the deal was canceled. Its my opinion that they tried to get out on purpose, but it doesn't matter. Now we are in early December and I haven't received any other offers. On top of that, it was very cold in Michigan and tours were nearly non existent. We decided to take the property off the market and wait till March when the weather warms up and people would be interested in buying again.

Fast forward to March, we put the house back on the market for 185k. The first few weeks had a lot of tours, but no offers. After a couple weeks I lower it to 180k. This seemed to spark more tours and interest, but some of the feedback were pointing out issues that were never brought up before, so I addressed those. Finally another came in at 167k cash. We negotiated and landed on 170k cash. As we all know, with a cash offer I don't have to deal with possible financing failure. Also, by this time, I had held the property for a year and so I was getting kind of antsy and wanted to get what I could. Once I took the offer, the closing was quick because it was cash. The inspection went well overall. They gave me a long list of things to address and I said I would address half of them (the cheapest ones) and had to shell out another $850 plus fixing a very large window that somehow got cracked after rehab ($1900). After those issues were addressed, we closed the deal and I ended up with 20k in profit after the sales closing costs for about a 15% roi in my 1 year of holding the property. I'm a little disappointed due to the fact that I had basically a 188k offer a few months back, but I need to remind myself that this isn't like the Seattle market and to be happy with a decent profit. Onto the the next.

Feel free to post any questions and dm if you want to discuss details. Happy to help however I can.


Thanks for the post; very interesting and informative
Two things stand out to me - first, if you had financed the purchase rehab at hard money rates you’d have broken even, the $20k profit mostly having gone for interest.
Second, I’m wondering how much more profitable the deal would have been if you were located in Detroit and hands on.  I infer from your post that perhaps you weren’t able to max out on value because the rehab quality wasn’t top notch, and you could have gotten top notch quality for the same cost if someone was carefully watching.  So, I’m wondering just how much profit may have “slipped through the cracks”?  If it’s $15k that’s significant - rather than a 15% ROI it would have been a 26% ROI.  

Here’s my bottom line; while I lend on commercial property almost exclusively, I used to do a lot of fix n flip residential hard money lending (about 50 loans per year).  It’s fairly easy to get 12% plus 3 points on your money.  So, your return is the same or better just lending your money on the project, and letting the investor take most of the risk, time investment, hassle, etc.  if the ROI is similar.  

I think your experience is actually a better outcome than most for this activity.  There just are t that many, if any, property purchases out there for a low enough price to make a windfall profit from this activity.  Instant and universal information have eliminated to a large extent the classic “out of town owner” who didn’t realize the current value of his property.  The people I know who’ve in the last5 years reported outsized profits on their fix n flip deals were those that purchased property where everything appreciated 20% in a year, so 75% of their profit was due to simple price appreciation and only 25% to their rehab efforts.  
 

For me rehabbing a property you plan to hold for q0 years + makes a lot more sense.  

Post: It’s getting easier cold calling

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Quote from @Christopher Olivieri:

I been calling about 20-40 properties a day, speaking to every agent/owner I can find! It's been a lot of practice, a lot of different scenarios. Finally got my first two pending responses. I know it's not a contract or anything (YET) but it's a start! It's actually a really fun learning experience and I have no doubts I will be getting deals done in the near future! Wish me luck

Your willingness to get “down and dirty” will pay big dividends in terms of accelerating your learning curve and gaining insight into the nitty gritty of marketing/sales.  Best of luck 

Post: MPH: Investment or Business?

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Mobile Home Park: is it an investment or a business?  

Well, that depends. 

If you’re renting spaces with utilities hookups to people who own their own mobile homes, that’s an investment. 
If on the other hand you’re renting both the pad site AND the mobile home, you’ve got yourself a business; albeit a business with a real estate investment component.  
And if you place POH on pad sites and sell the POH for little down to just about anyone who can fog up a mirror, then you’re TRYING to transition from business to investment. 

Let me know what you think 

Post: Seller carry 2nd mortgage

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Quote from @Njoukeng Nanfack:

Hello, Help needed:

  • l am under contract to purchase a property for $800k. Seller is going to carry a second mortgage for $300k. l can potentially use my VA loan for financing with zero down payment. The property currently has a county-assessed value of $849k and may appraise for more.
  • Is there any possibility for me to structure the seller financing + bank loan such that l can end up getting a check at closing?

Thanks

Any seller carrying a second mortgage, if they’re at all knowledgable/experienced, would want to know exactly the size and terms of the 1st mortgage, and how much cash the buyer is putting out of his own pocket.  If their seller is so naive as to think it doesn’t matter, his attorney may “save his a….” IF he has any attorney represent him.  

About 40 years ago we used to do these deals, but lenders have smartened up and tightened up, about the only way to pull this off now is by combining what’s essentially personal unsecured loan with a secured loan, or by committing mortgage fraud.  In the lenders mind having no money in the deal, let alone walking away from closing buying a property and putting cash in your pocket, increases the possibility of default exponentially.  

Post: Looking for Advice: Potential "Subject To" Deal vs. Fix & Flip

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Quote from @Consuela Adams:
Quote from @Corby Goade:

You need at equity or cash flow to make most deals work. This one has no equity and a loan at 7%, which is basically market rates, so anyone could get a mortgage on this property at the same rate the sellers have. What is the upside here? Why are you spending time on this one? 

Rent in the area is between 2,000 and 2400. The area will.most definitely appreciate with ARV is the 400/500K! 

 But what makes THIS property unique? Sounds like you could buy any property and get the same appreciation. 

Anyone who thinks they can predict real estate prices is too young or inexperienced to have been through 2008 - 2011.  Or been through Detroit’s numerous “comebacks”.  Or invested in any mid size mid western city in the last 50 years.  It all seems SO OBVIOUS, when it’s the only experience you’ve had.  My dad, who was a stock market speculator, told me something 60 years ago about the stock market that’s true in real estate and any investment “ never mistake brains with a bull market”.  

Post: Clouded title, buyer options?

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Quote from @Isaac Passmore:

What are the buyer's options at closing if the title company is unable to produce the closing documents because the seller has not been communicative and the title company has discovered numerous liens against the property but does not know enough information to provide title insurance or provide an accurate payout?

Don’t know the circumstances here, but in general my experience when a seller was uncooperative with title company requests they didn’t want to sell for some reason; such as liens and judgements attached to the property that they didn’t think would have attached  so they would not be receiving the cash out they had anticipated.  In this case the seller is not going to sign a warranty deed as they don’t want to sell.  In a case where a seller has lost interest and doesn’t want to go through the hassle of clearing title usually because they don’t anticipate much net proceeds, but is still willing to sell, you can have the, sign a quit claim deed.  Then work the list of creditors, judgments, and liens clouding title, taking legal action to remove the ones lacking in legal merit, and trying to offer a “settlement” amount (discounted payoff) for the ones that are legit. This requires capital since you won’t be able to use the property as collateral for a loan until such time as the liens are paid off.