Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Todd Heitner

Todd Heitner has started 42 posts and replied 144 times.

Post: Free Websites for Real Estate Investors

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

We're now offering free websites for real estate investors!

Go to http://DoneDealWebsite.com/biggerpockets

Includes:

  • Motivated Seller site
  • Wholesale Buyer landing page
  • Rent-to-own Buyer landing page
  • and more...

You can use your own domain name (not required).

Claim your free real estate investor website here!

Post: Free Websites for Real Estate Investors

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

We're now offering free websites for real estate investors!

Go to http://DoneDealWebsite.com/biggerpockets

Includes:

  • Motivated Seller site
  • Wholesale Buyer landing page
  • Rent-to-own Buyer landing page
  • and more...

You can use your own domain name (not required).

Claim your free real estate investor website here!

Post: Total Greenhorn from Chicago, IL

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

Ouch, 80K in student loans!  It's great that you're able to put so much of your income toward the debt.

I'm not in that position, but I think if I were I'd postpone the buy-and-hold rental approach till you get the loans paid off.  I'm not saying not to invest in real estate, I'm saying take a different approach.  I'm curious how you'd be able to buy the properties.  In my opinion, you're not at a point where you should be looking at those kind of investments.  Don't get me wrong, they're great if you have the cash sitting around, but it doesn't sound like you do.  It takes quite a while for a buy-and-hold property to be profitable.

To me, it sounds like a better approach would be first to focus on some investing that takes little out-of-pocket cash but has a big payday so you can get those loans paid off faster.  For example, wholesaling, lease options, subject to, etc. can be done with very little out of your own pocket and can give you some nice paydays that can cut down those loans much faster.

Once you have the loans paid off, I'd say still to stay the same course until you have a good amount saved up.  Even then, you might be better off focusing on these same type of techniques where you're investing with other people's money, essentially, which leaves your own money available to work for you in other ways.  

Once you get to a certain level, where you've got more than enough to buy a property outright and still have plenty left over to run your business, I'd say then to start buying a property or two as rentals.  Get some practice renting and keep the cash flow steady.  Then repeat the process, always re-investing profits, and your portfolio will grow, slow and steady.

Todd

Post: Hi! New member from Alpharetta, GA

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

Hi Jack, welcome!  You've found a great community!  It's a great place to learn and share ideas.  Glad to have you with us.

Post: New BiggerPocket Member- Washington, DC

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

Welcome Rene!  Bigger Pockets is a great community.  I'm down the road a little bit from you, in Virginia.  :)

Post: Free Websites for Real Estate Investors

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

We're now offering free websites for real estate investors!

Go to http://DoneDealWebsite.com/biggerpockets

Includes:

  • Motivated Seller site
  • Wholesale Buyer landing page
  • Rent-to-own Buyer landing page
  • and more...

You can use your own domain name (not required).

Claim your free real estate investor website here!

Post: Free Websites for real estate investors

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

We're now offering free websites for real estate investors!

Go to http://DoneDealWebsite.com/biggerpockets

Includes:

  • Motivated Seller site
  • Wholesale Buyer landing page
  • Rent-to-own Buyer landing page
  • and more..

You can use your own domain name (not required).

Claim your free real estate investor website here!

Post: Why is everyone against paying for a seminar?

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

Wow, you've created a monster!  :)  Nine pages of replies and counting.  It caught my attention because I've thought the same thing.

It's not just seminars, but it seems like any resource in general - books, courses, services, etc.  For example, because of my business, I've seen quite a few people asking about websites, like 'is this service or that service worth the money,' and the majority of people always come back and say to try to do everything yourself, go the free route for everything, etc.  But I've seen the same thing with books and courses.  The majority of responses tend to be along the lines of 'don't pay for anything, try to get everything for free.'

I agree that if you're getting value from something, it's worth paying for.  It's an investment in yourself.  I pay for books and courses regularly.  However, I definitely agree that there are a lot of scams out there and you have to be careful.

I went to one REI seminar a few years back where everyone there paid at least $10K (fortunately I was invited as a free guest). The whole weekend was just a pitch fest for a bunch of random things. One presenter would give advice that completely contradicted what another presenter said. At the end of it, all the people who paid to be there were more confused than when they arrived. I felt bad for everyone, especially knowing that most of those people put it on their credit cards. Just yesterday I was reading a post from someone who spent $30K on a seminar and still had no idea what to do or how to start investing. Crazy.

I think if you're just starting out and don't have general information about investing and the different techniques, you should not pay that kind of money, regardless of what's being promised.  I say do a little research online to get familiar with what the different techniques of investing are and decide which one you want to focus on.  Then buy a course that is highly spoken of.  You can easily get all the knowledge you need for a couple hundred dollars.  Then go do some deals using that knowledge.

Only after you've done at least a deal or two and have some income should you consider investing big bucks in a seminar, and only then if you've done your homework and talked to other people who have gone and know that it's going to teach you the specific information that will take you to the next level.

But again, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't invest in your REI education. Yes, there is some good information for free, but it tends to be scattered here and there and you have to piece it together yourself. If you have absolutely no money, fine, go that route. But I have no problem paying someone to give me the information I need in an organized, structured manner that makes it easy to digest and put the pieces together. That takes time and work, so someone should be compensated for that.

It does irritate me when someone asks for feedback on a particular service, product, seminar, etc. and people respond who have no experience with it and say not to buy it, just because it costs money.  That's annoying.  And I know that most of the people saying that have not done a single deal.  So if you haven't bought whatever it is and you're not successful, why are you giving advice?

Multiple times I've replied to posts like that to disagree with someone saying things like that.  I think maybe that's the solution.  People are always going to say stuff like that.  But if no one steps up and gives a conflicting opinion, people may assume it's accurate.  If you speak up and say 'I disagree because...' then it gives people reading it another perspective and they can decide for themselves which makes the most sense.

Post: Promoting Website for lead generation

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

Don't overlook offline marketing methods to direct people to your website too.  Of course, it doesn't help with SEO, but it does generate leads, which should be your main goal.  You may be doing that too, but you didn't mention it. 

I like to think of each marketing technique as a line in the water, and constantly be looking for ways to get more lines in the water because it all adds up.  The more places your marketing message is, the more likely a good prospect will see it and contact you.  SEO is great, but it's just one line in the water and there are many other ways to get leads too that you don't want to overlook.

Post: Flip #1 set the bar pretty high at 30K profit!

Todd Heitner
Posted
  • Specialist
  • Huntingdon, PA
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 57

Congratulations!  Could you share some of the lessons you learned and what you will do differently in the future?

Do you have other deals in the pipeline?  Sometimes when you have a big project like that it's easy to put off marketing for new deals.  It can take a little while to get them, though, so it's important to keep your marketing going.

Will your next deal be a rehab project too or are you looking into other techniques?