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All Forum Posts by: Joe Delia

Joe Delia has started 11 posts and replied 783 times.

Post: Who thinks Detroit will turn around within the next 5 years?

Joe DeliaPosted
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  • Rochester Hills, MI
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Originally posted by @Scott K.:
Originally posted by @Joe Delia:
Detroit is already turning around. The rents in downtown have doubled in 5 years, pushing the old business district people to midtown, driving up midtown rents. There is only one listing on the MLS right now for corktown, for 800sq ft 1 br $120,000. Detroit as a whole will need to shrink it's footprint, and it's going to be a long time before the whole city is realistically functioning but large pockets are improving at an exponential rate.
Todays under 40 population is flocking downtown and that trend is going to continue.

The building department and courts still have a long way to go. We're not that far removed from kwame, so we need to give duggan and the state time to sort the morons out after years of corruption

A perfect example of when people get involved with social engineering. They were paying people to stay downtown instead just letting it happen on its own. Now they priced the very same people that started the comeback down there. I hate the fact that now most of those people have to move.

I think the next area that will make a comeback will be around Motor City casino. In the next 5 years that area should be built up with the new Wings arena going up not that far from there. The problem is where do the poor people move to when that area is back up and boomig

You hate that gilbert offered a carrot to his employees to live around tons of his current investments? They don't have to move, they can just choose to pay more. What else was going to happen when an area "comes back"? You expect rents to stay low because they were there first?

I have a great pulse of the 30 year old demographic, and I'm in the business district all the time due to my wife working for quicken. I understand what is happening and talk to people all the time. Everyone is very optimistic and lots of people in my generation are looking to move downtown.

Can you imagine what brush park is going to look like in ten years? It's going to be amazing.

Post: Who thinks Detroit will turn around within the next 5 years?

Joe DeliaPosted
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Detroit is already turning around. The rents in downtown have doubled in 5 years, pushing the old business district people to midtown, driving up midtown rents. There is only one listing on the MLS right now for corktown, for 800sq ft 1 br $120,000. Detroit as a whole will need to shrink it's footprint, and it's going to be a long time before the whole city is realistically functioning but large pockets are improving at an exponential rate.

Todays under 40 population is flocking downtown and that trend is going to continue.

The building department and courts still have a long way to go. We're not that far removed from kwame, so we need to give duggan and the state time to sort the morons out after years of corruption

Post: Who do you think will win: Zillow, Trulia, or ????

Joe DeliaPosted
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Originally posted by @Michael S.:
@Joe Delia

Do you think legalzoom.com is stealing business from lawyers, Kelly Blue Book is stealing business from car dealerships, and Lowes is stealing business from the mom-and-pop hardware store? If you said yes, you would be right-- but that doesn't make it wrong or preventable.

Are apples stealing business from oranges?

Not the same concept. Realtors have chosen to syndicate thinking it would help, the sentiment is changing and if they decide to not, zillow and trulia are dead as we know them today.

Post: OH NO! NOT DETROIT!

Joe DeliaPosted
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Originally posted by @David Beard:
@Joe Delia

"The $25-40k house (all-in) that rents for $750-900 is attainable in all these metros".

This was the point of my post. Surely you don't disagree with that.

I don't know the detroit rental market good enough to really say yes or no, it's not my thing. What I do know, your cincinnati 25-40K houses are much much different than your detroit houses.

Post: OH NO! NOT DETROIT!

Joe DeliaPosted
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Originally posted by @David Beard:
I really don't think the Detroit area is much different than any of the major metros in Ohio (Cin, Col, Cle, Day), or Indianapolis or Kansas City. The $25-40k house (all-in) that rents for $750-900 is attainable in all these metros. It's essentially impossible to get bank financing on these properties, so it's strictly cash purchases or private money financing. This absence of institutional financing has kept prices depressed, so a mixed blessing for investors. It's always a challenge to get quality property management for these inexpensive houses. All the PM's prefer nicer areas with larger fees and less tenant issues. Owners need to stay on top of things carefully, and they require active management. Be cautious and very prepared before purchasing homes like these from out of the area.

I've lived in both Cincinnati & Detroit. They are nothing alike.

Post: 9% cash flow pot house, want your opinion

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Man, with 500K, just buy 8 SFR's here in warren and get 1100 in rent per. You'll be at 8800 in rents.

I'll take the 4x monthly rent over the pie in the sky deal that maybe this area will boom someday.

Post: 9% cash flow pot house, want your opinion

Joe DeliaPosted
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I'd rather cut my hand off than do this deal.

Betting on appreciation may make you some money, but in the long run your *** will get burned.

Post: One million dollars in cash to invest in flipping houses

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Personally with a million in cash i buy a distressed apt building and flip it!

Your best bet is to partner with someone local who has a proven track record. Worst thing in the world you can do is state you have a million in cash and are looking for a partner. Talk to people who are doing it, figure out who is doing it most often and a lot, and ask them if they'd be willing to go 50/50 if they can train you as well. Have an attorney ready for all agreements

You also may want to consider partnering with a builder and spec build.

Post: My First Flip (Michigan)

Joe DeliaPosted
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Looks good scott.

Bucked the beige trend in the bathroom? I'm seeing that lime green more often. Personally not a fan, but i'm seeing it a lot in properties lately.

Good luck to you!

Post: Metro Detroit Real Estate Agents - Question for you all

Joe DeliaPosted
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Originally posted by @Aaron Yates:
Originally posted by @Joe Delia:
Originally posted by @Aaron Yates:
Originally posted by @Joe Delia:
Aaron,
Rarely do agents make money in their first year above poverty level. Finding something while being a part time agent to get the ball rolling is your best bet.

Thanks Joe. Im hearimg the same from everyone now. So its back to traveling 80%+ a year for work.

Financially will be great and allow me to start buying again in the late spring. But the sacrifice is only seeing my family 4 to 5 days a month for the next 6 to 8 months.

Thanks toneveryome for their responses.

Good news is i'll pay all the fee's in the meantime and only charge you $249 (Brokerage fee) when you're ready to buy again! ;)

So you dont take any commission from the deal?

Not from the buyer!