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All Forum Posts by: Felix Sharpe

Felix Sharpe has started 6 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: Borrow from 401k for 9.5% Return on Rental?

Felix SharpePosted
  • Attorney
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

How conservative were you in calculating that return? If it was aggressive just recognize that and if it's conservative then that's great but find it hard to see where new construction yields 9% CoC

 @Chris Seveney thanks for your feedback. I double checked my numbers also to make sure. But i learned after posting my question that the home was a habitat home with income ceiling limitations and more purchase restrictions than usual. Anyway, I couldn't qualify for the purchase. So, I am back out looking everyday.

Post: Borrow from 401k for 9.5% Return on Rental?

Felix SharpePosted
  • Attorney
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Melissa Justice:

@Felix Sharpe hey!

Congrats on being so close to Door No. 2 — that’s a big step forward! Based on what you’ve shared, a few thoughts:

A 7%–9.5% cash-on-cash return on new construction is quite solid, especially in today’s interest rate environment. New builds generally mean:
Lower maintenance costs

Fewer surprises

Attracts quality tenants

Better depreciation/tax benefits (especially if cost segregation is done early)

So from a deal standpoint, it sounds like you’ve found something worth considering — particularly if it’s in a landlord-friendly, high-demand market.

On Borrowing from the 401(k)- This can be a smart short-term play if you’re disciplined. 
Pros:
You’re paying yourself back with interest.

You avoid taking on high-interest debt from banks.

You’re leveraging money that might otherwise be idle or underperforming.

If you repay within the timeline, there’s no tax hit or early withdrawal penalty.

Cons:
You’re taking that money out of the market temporarily (opportunity cost).

If you leave your W-2 job for any reason, that loan may become due faster.

It's important to factor in the repayment plan and ensure the rental cash flow doesn’t get too tight.

If this property is through a turnkey provider that includes property management, rehab, and tenant placement — like us at Rent To Retirement — you’re mitigating a lot of the risk of surprises. That adds a safety net when using funds like your 401(k).

Since you plan to repay the loan in a year, and the property cash flows with a strong return, I’d personally lean toward yes — as long as you're confident in the stability of your W-2 and the market fundamentals of where you're investing.

Wishing you much success!

Melissa Justice

Investment Strategist

 Thanks so much for your feedback @Melissa Justice!

Post: Borrow from 401k for 9.5% Return on Rental?

Felix SharpePosted
  • Attorney
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
Quote from @Felix Sharpe:

Hello, 

I am a relatively new investor looking to get Door No. 2 under my belt.  

I am considering a SF new construction (3/2) that would produce a cash on cash return between 7%-9.5% with 20% down.

I have 50% of the down payment. I could theoretically borrow the other 50% from my 401k, which I could pay back in a year. 

Thoughts? Would you do this deal and borrow 50% from your retirement?

Thanks for any input!

-Felix


Hey @Felix Sharpe! I'm curious what lead you to decide to do new construction for your 2nd property rather than buying a turnkey or a light value add property? 


 Hi Jaycee - I wasn’t choosing new construction per se, but this deal just happened to be in my buy box as far as price range, square footage bed/baths.

I did a full gut rehab with my first purchase, and I’m sure I’ll do more in the future. But I like the idea of something that’s move in ready where I don’t have to consider a bunch of capital expenditures. 

Post: Borrow from 401k for 9.5% Return on Rental?

Felix SharpePosted
  • Attorney
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 4

Hello, 

I am a relatively new investor looking to get Door No. 2 under my belt.  

I am considering a SF new construction (3/2) that would produce a cash on cash return between 7%-9.5% with 20% down.

I have 50% of the down payment. I could theoretically borrow the other 50% from my 401k, which I could pay back in a year. 

Thoughts? Would you do this deal and borrow 50% from your retirement?

Thanks for any input!

-Felix


Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey @Felix Sharpe, so I am with @Grant Woodward.

Run the numbers and try to get a good idea of the cost of the work you are going to do plus the downtime that the STR will experience while work is being done.

60k isn't going to go too far when buying and setting up another place.

Post a pic or the listing for the place so we can get a look. It might not need a ton and you can get some direct advice.


Hey Michael, thanks for the reply. 

Here’s the listing:  Felix’s Listing

Hello folks,

I bought my first property in 2023. It was a full renovation via 203k loan. In my first year as an STR host in 2024, I made approximately $2,500 per month. I expect that to be about $2,600 - $2,800 per month in 2025. That leads to my question: I have about $60,000 to invest. I am considering whether to use that money to reinvest in my STR property or scaling up and buying another property that would be a single family long term rental. If reinvested in my existing property, it would be to have both (1) the STR professionally designed by an interior decorator like Rob Built's Funkit Interiors and (2) finish the exterior curb appeal with a paint job, landscaping, new doors and a roof.


Any thoughts on whether to reinvest or buy another property?


Thanks,

Felix

Post: 4 to a Room Too Many???

Felix SharpePosted
  • Attorney
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 4

Thank you for your comments @Evan Polaski!

Post: 4 to a Room Too Many???

Felix SharpePosted
  • Attorney
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 4

Thank you for the feed back @Lauren Kormylo!

Post: 4 to a Room Too Many???

Felix SharpePosted
  • Attorney
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 4

Thanks for the feed back! 

Post: 4 to a Room Too Many???

Felix SharpePosted
  • Attorney
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Chris Watson:

If you want 4 people then a queen over queen bunkbed looks like it will work. If going this route custom build it and reinforce it. I have done it in a STR but as stated above the bathroom situation might hurt you in reviews especially in groups of primarily adults or adults and teenagers.