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All Forum Posts by: Jack B.

Jack B. has started 420 posts and replied 1845 times.

Post: Tenant Applicants say the dumbest things

Jack B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @Karen Bickford:

@Jack B. I agree this is very frustrating. Unfortunately we are in a world of skimmers today. Nobody reads beyond a few sentences or skims the rest.  I have the same patience threshold as you, very low. When asking the obvious I will ask them where did they see the ad.  What does it say in the ad about X. ? 

 I have a vacation rental where my calendar is public and updated for all to see.  I get, Is it available for these dates?  What does the calendar say for those dates?  

Not really productive but does make me feel better.

 Yeah, I think it's an education and career, not to mention general intelligence level thing. I get there will be exceptions where someone genuinely overlooks things, but I don't need to spoon feed a baby. I guess if someone works a low end job or career where they deal with Joe Public all day, they are used to this kind of crap. I'm an IT Engineer who makes well into the six figures from my job alone, closer to half a mil a year counting investments. I am astonished that people are so dumb as to email me questions that have the answers laid out exactly in the order they are asking them in the listing. I guess it's too much to expect people to have reading comprehension above a 5th grade level...

Frankly I'm glad I avoid these types of "tenants". I've had people like these before and they are just dumb as rocks. One couldn't figure out how to light the water heater pilot light. I go there and it's already lit. He didn't think to look to see if it was already lit...Water leak from washer pipe for three days; he thought it would stop on it's own. EVERYTHING was a challenge for this guy. But then again, you and I are the bad guys because we can read...

Post: Don't let me rent to this tenant...

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @Natalie Kolodij:

Ah yes- I ran into somewhat the opposite issue on the North end. I live in Snohomish and have been looking at rentals in Everett mostly...but the blue collar/bad credit is one of my biggest fears. 

I currently rent and my landlord basically did a dance when two 20something professionals with 700+ credit scores walked in. We showed up right after a potential applicant trying to explain why he should overlook their eviction from 2 years prior.  

I've actually been practicing my CPA skills for a charge for a few years now unfortunately...so you've unfortunately missed the "willing to work for free for experience" window. I've just got to finish the exam to get those letters after my name. :P 

 Everett is the Tacoma of the North end, you're in for some interesting characters. Truth be told I had to school my employers CPA tax advisor on how to properly fill out a W2 and when box 13 should/should not be checked. Sadly, took 3 emails to get them to understand the IRS matrix before they sent out thousands of corrected W2's. And unfortunately my previous CPA didn't do a good job on my rental property returns and I've actually gotten accustomed to doing them myself for a bigger return, plus it turned out he changed my return after I signed it, found out during a mortgage company audit of my tax transcripts...

Thought about sitting for the CPA exams but figured I'd rather go to law school instead. Might still do the CPA thing though, just to get JD, MBA, CPA after my name. But would rather keep playing the real estate game for profit ;-). 

Post: Don't let me rent to this tenant...

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @Oz Val:
Originally posted by @Jack B.:

Update. She offered to pay off the debts to the previous landlord and the utilities, pay 2.5 the deposit (per my request) and $125 more per month in rent along with a parental co-sign. I might be able to make this work for all parties. She pays me enough to cover any likely damages, higher rent as an additional buffer, parental co-sign, AND pay the people she owes money to.

 is it legal in your area to chare 2.5X deposit, in MD i think its only 1.5X

 Yes, the only stipulation or limits on fees charged in WA is that the late fees for late rent payments, etc. don't exceed 20% of the rent amount.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=19.150.150

Post: Don't let me rent to this tenant...

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @Natalie Kolodij:

@Jack B. I'm really surprised to hear that you're having a hard time finding a renter. Is the rental in Seattle?

 It's actually not unusual this time of year. There is a thread on here about the hardest time of year to fill a rental. This is it, lol.

This rental is in Tacoma. Tons of interest but a lot of blue collar, low income people in Tacoma. Most applicants don't qualify. Sadly, even on my 500k properties most tenants have awful credit histories. There is a reason these people are renters. Good luck with the CPA exams. When you pass, you can practice your CPA skills on my rentals, free of charge, just to help you out... :-P

Post: First Deal Frustration: What did I do wrong?

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @Anthony Dooley:

The first question I have: What is the Net Operating Income? This determines the value. How much actual money is left when you subtract the monthly expenses from the gross monthly rent? This is NOI. Then subtract your monthly debt service from the NOI. This is cash flow. How much of a return will you get on your down payment? Look for at least 10%.

After running the numbers, you may find that the value is actually more than $85K. 

Then ask yourself: How can I increase the NOI? Can you raise rents, lower expenses, negotiate the insurance down, reduce the water bill, etc? By increasing the NOI, you increase the value of the property. Then when you refinance, you can get all of your down payment back.

How much do you think it will be worth in 10 years?  Probably more than $85K.

 Listen to this guy, he knows what he is talking about. Keep it coming, this is exactly what I've read all over the place and is 100% spot on.

Post: Month to Month vs. Long Term Lease

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @John D.:

M2M because if tenants break the lease you need to actually prove that you did your best efforts to find another tenant before you can actually try to recover anything due to lease breakage. 

So in CA there is no advantage with a year long lease compared to M2M

 No advantage, nothing but disadvantages...

Post: Month to Month vs. Long Term Lease

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @Samantha Klein:

Term lease only benefits the tenant. Tenants will leave whenever they want and break a lease leaving you without proper notice. M2M benefits the landlord due to the ease of getting bad tenants out faster and plus if your having a whiny tenant who doesn't seem happy, you have the ability to give proper notice and get a better tenant. 

 Exactly. I was super glad I learned this lesson reading a blog from nononsenselandlord and converted leases to MTM as they expired and only did MTM leases after that. Saved my butt just last summer. Tenant is a PITA? Here is your 20 day notice to vacate...

Post: Don't let me rent to this tenant...

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Yeah, she emailed me again today trying to change the deal she had originally agreed to. Ugh. I flat out told her when someone which such terrible credit history repeatedly bounces all over the board on what they will agree to, it's a sign of future issues. It's done, she is gone. Would rather let it sit at this point than deal with crummy or questionable tenants. I used to allow 550 credit score people when I first started out, bad experiences later, I'm always hesitant now, though the temptation is always there after it's been sitting empty for a while. Like the other guy said, every tenant with a 550 or below credit score I've ever had was an issue, every single one of them. Credit score IS a sign of behavior. No surprise that my 780+ credit score tenants have never been an issue...

Post: Don't let me rent to this tenant...

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @Stephen E.:
Originally posted by @Jack B.:

Update. She offered to pay off the debts to the previous landlord and the utilities, pay 2.5 the deposit (per my request) and $125 more per month in rent along with a parental co-sign. I might be able to make this work for all parties. She pays me enough to cover any likely damages, higher rent as an additional buffer, parental co-sign, AND pay the people she owes money to.

 It sounds like a desperate tenant believes she has found a desperate landlord. Note that what finally prompts her to pay her debts to her former landlord is being under the gun and needing to secure a place. This presumably comes after many rejections from landlords who see the obvious, and that is that if she did not pay her previous landlord what makes you think she will pay you?

How badly do you need this month's rent? My sense is pretty badly otherwise you would see through this ruse. Your comment that "I might be able to make this work for all parties" is particularly troubling and reeks of desperation. Don't let greed and $125 a month cause you do go down this path. This is the kind of assurance that bad tenants can routinely make because it is relatively costless, they know they won't pay. Just how long do you expect her to pay $125 a month in extra rent or indeed any rent? The best guide to future behavior is past behavior and the answer based on that is staring you in the face.

 Touche, this is why I posted here, to help me keep my temptation and emotion out of it. I actually initially sent her the required adverse action notice. Nonetheless, I ignored several calls and texts last night when she was asking for the application for her parents to cosign, and I think she went away. I really worry about her damaging the place, and of course, she has a kid, so gonna be tough to get a judge to let me throw her out. 

Honestly I just want to sell this place and be done with it. Either hold the money or 1031 into another higher end home. This place, the neighborhood, it just attracts losers like this girl. Did I mention she drove up in a 60+K luxury car and thought $16 an hour was good money???

Post: Tenant Applicants say the dumbest things

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Originally posted by @Steve Babiak:
Originally posted by @Jack B.:

Today's idiots:

Just one question, what is the required credit score? (it's listed at the very beginning AND end of the listing)...

What is the rent, deposit and credit requirement? (all of this, listed top and bottom clearly...)

Insurance Agent working to place a family temporarily. Sends me a long list of questions about rent, deposits, etc. I informed her that all of this information is IN the listing....

Hint, I don't rent to people who are THIS dumb. It's an automatic 'you're too dumb to rent, please stop breeding' kind of response.

The insurance representative in this case is an idiot for failing to read or remember what they read, but that does not mean that the people they are trying to find a place for are idiots.

Of course, the people that need a place due to an insurance claim might be the sort who just had a fire or had mold develop, but might also have had a tree fall on the structure at the property or a car smash through a wall of the house (landlords have posted anecdotes on BP regarding all of those types of events in my recollection). So they could be trouble if they cause fires or mold, but maybe not so bad for those other scenarios.

 Didn't say the renters of the insurance company were idiots, just the insurance person trying to find them a place to live. I'm getting reaaaally tired of people who can't read beyond a fifth grade level, contact me to ask me questions clearly answered right at the beginning of the listing. I mean I knew being a landlord would expose me to riff raff but never imagined I'd be dealing with illiterate people who waste their time and mine then wonder why I come here to vent or look at them like they are idiots. 

Reminds me of when I sold my truck on CL (most of my contacts for rentals are through Zillow, HotPads, etc.) and even though my very first sentence in the listing listed the mileage, I had morons calling me every few minutes who would not ask me once, but FOUR times within the span of 60 seconds of the call what the mileage was. By the fourth time I would just hang up. I just could not fathom how dumb these people were. It says it in the listing AND I've answered it the first three times you asked just seconds ago, how can you not remember and keep asking me???

Yep, these are the special idiots who think $12 an hour is good money...