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All Forum Posts by: Jack Martin

Jack Martin has started 4 posts and replied 611 times.

Post: how to find a real estate accountant

Jack Martin#3 Mobile Home Park Investing ContributorPosted
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I have found that nothing replaces networking to find candidates to consider. Contact the most experienced real estate investors and syndicators you know or can find and ask them who they would refer you to. Save you a lot of time...

Post: Financing mobile home park.

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@Gene Nelson the type of lenders that will be appropriate will depend on the park itself and your qualifications as the buyer. Generally, outside of seller financing, the common types of debt available for MHPs are:

Local & Regional Banks or Credit Unions - You can find out which banks have an appetite for mobile home parks by asking the MH/RV brokers in your area, networking through other owners of parks in your area, or simply obtain list of the smaller banks in your area/region and call them to see if they have lent on parks in the past. If they have not, don't waste your time. Keep in mind a $200k loan takes the same amount of work as a $2MM loan, so you may come across some banks who like MHP's yet they may not show serious interest in really small loans.

Life Companies - Life co debt will typically have better terms than banks, but will come with tougher qualification criteria. You can access life co debt through a commercial loan broker, but take the time to find the broker who specializes in MHP debt. If the broker doesn't have a deep level of experience placing debt on mobile home parks, you could be in for a lot of brain damage and promises that are not met. Network through MHP attorneys and MH/RV park brokers or owners to find the right commercial loan broker.

Agency (Freddie/Fannie) - If the park and the buyer qualify, this will likely be the best debt, but the qualifications are even more restrictive. Just like Life co's, you can access agency debt through a commercial loan broker, so take the time to find the most experienced MHP broker.

Conduit (CMBS) - Conduit can be a little more flexible than agency or life co, particularly with respect to the park and terms. Again, you can access conduit loans through a commercial broker.

(In addition to those sources, there are a few others that are less common, such as HUD and SBA)

Your track record of experience with MHPs may have significant impact on whether a loan is considered, and whether you can negotiate the terms of the loan, so be prepared to demonstrate your experience, or the team you have built around you who has the experience.

Typically smaller deals under 50 spaces or locations that are more rural will be best suited for banks. Once you find the right banks, there will be more flexibility with respect to qualification of the deal and you as the buyer, particularly if you lack a track record.

Larger deals and locations in larger MSAs will open the door to agency, conduit, and life companies, all of which tend to come with better or more flexible terms, but with a higher degree of buyer experience and park requirements. For example, some lenders may require you already own and operate a similar asset in the same market wherein you are buying the subject property, some may require a minimum number of spaces, some will have pavement requirements. Some will have restrictions as to total occupancy and percentage of POHs, while others are more flexible. Many of these loans can be non-recourse or limited recourse, but there will likely be liquidity and net worth requirements of the borrower. Some loans will come with defeasance or yield maintenance, while others will have step down prepayment penalties.

A good loan broker who specialized in MHP debt can guide you with respect to the right choice for you as the buyer, which type of lender will be best suited for the park, where the terms will be the most favorable, and where the hurdles will likely be. Having that relationship will help you get the best terms for the deal and avoid wasting time on a loan that is low probability.

All the best,

Jack

Post: How are people financing mobile home parks?

Jack Martin#3 Mobile Home Park Investing ContributorPosted
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Typically smaller deals under 50 spaces and locations that are more rural will be best suited for local or regional banks. You can find out which banks have an appetite for mobile home parks by asking the MH/RV brokers in your area, networking through other owners of parks in your area, or simply obtain list of the smaller banks in your area/region and call them to see if they have lent on parks in the past. If they have never done a MHP loan, don't waste your time.  Keep in mind that a $200k loan takes the same amount of work as a $2MM loan, so you may come across some banks who like MHP's yet they may not show serious interest in doing really small loans. Once you find the right banks, there will be more flexibility with respect to qualification of the deal and you as the buyer, particularly if you lack a track record in mobile home parks. 

Post: Mobile Home Park Investing

Jack Martin#3 Mobile Home Park Investing ContributorPosted
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@Debbie Mayerson to add to what @Randy Bloch suggested above, the question becomes whether you aspire to be active or passive as an investor in mobile home parks? 

As Randy mentioned, mobile home park investing requires specialized knowledge and experience and you’ll need to become adept at many things that are not found in other real estate.  This starts with finding deals, since most parks do not hit the public market, and determining what parks to pursue. A good MHP investment has just as much to do with understanding what parks “not to buy” as it does “parks to buy”.  Assuming you are skilled in those areas, you will also need to understand valuation of parks, so your end result is an acquisition of a park at a price that will allow you to be successful.

Then comes due diligence and acquisition. Understanding what items to investigate and how to navigate due diligence to eliminate surprises is critical. MHP's are very unique so don't make the mistake of assuming a list of due diligence items from other real estate will be sufficient. If you plan to get a loan, it will be important to understand the right lender for your park since all lenders do not lend on parks, how to correctly build a package for the lender, and what may be required to qualify for the loan.

After closing, you'll need a smart strategy to add value to the park while also improving the resident experience at the same pace. Ensuring that your residents continue to enjoy living at the park is a critical component of the long-term success of the park. Also, what capital improvements will have the most impact on the park, when you should execute on them, and properly budgeting for them. 

Understanding the right kind of contractors to hire is critical, especially if you are filling up vacant spaces and/or renovating mobile homes. Experienced mobile home contractors can eliminate a lot of risk and potential nightmares that come along with using the wrong contractors. 

If the park is large enough, hiring onsite staff will be an important step. This includes marketing, interviewing, and hiring the right team to help you run the park. MHP management and maintenance requires specialized knowledge, and hiring great staff is not as simple as knocking on doors until an existing resident says “yes, I will take the job”.

Mobile home parks have unique regulations that need to be understood and adhered to around the sales of homes, seller financing, and other local and state guidelines. Simply the fact that the residents own the homes introduces a whole new set of challenges that other real estate doesn't have.

Using the right management software, bookkeeping correctly, and using the right accountant who understands mobile home parks, cost segregation, and bonus depreciation will all be important. 

With all that said...

For some investors, gaining exposure to the MHP asset class through a passive investment can be a better fit than acquiring a park themselves.

Passive investments in mobile home parks involve a sponsor (an experienced MHP operator) and a group of investors. The sponsor finds the park, underwrites the park, performs the due diligence, and raises capital from investors to acquire the park.

Once the park is acquired, the sponsor is responsible for repositioning the park through a strategy designed to increase the performance and the value of the park. This includes everything related to physical improvements, optimizing income and expenses, and properly managing the park to ensure regulatory compliance and resident happiness.

Along the way, investors receive the benefit of cash flow and tax benefits from the park, and when the park is sold, they receive a share of the profits. Some of the benefits of partnering with an experienced MHP sponsor are:

  • Access to deals: Experienced sponsors can find deals that the general public never even knows about.
  • Lower required investment: Rather than having to fund the purchase of a whole property yourself, most passive investments allow you to invest a smaller portion.
  • Low time commitment: The sponsor handles all the day-to-day work.
  • Lower risk: Investors can leverage the sponsor's experience to avoid costly mistakes.
  • Economy of Scale: Sponsors tend to buy larger properties. Larger properties create economies of scale that can result in higher and more stable cash flow.
  • Returns: It's not uncommon for investors to make a better return being passive than they would have if they took the plunge themselves.
  • Direct access: Unlike traditional investments, passive real estate investment offers direct communication with the people responsible for the performance of your investment and the properties themselves.
  • Tax benefits: Investors can receive the same tax advantages that come with ownership of real estate, such as depreciation. Keep in mind, some asset classes are more tax efficient than others. (such as my personal favorite, mobile home parks)
  • Retirement-account friendly: Passive investments can be a great fit for retirement accounts because they are hands off and don't violate rules related to prohibited transactions and self-dealing.
  • Fund Diversification: Similar to the way a mutual fund behaves, a real estate fund diversifies the investment across a group of properties instead of a single property. This results in reduced risk and blended performance across all the properties in the fund, and can also create the opportunity for compounding returns by reinvesting cash flow distributions back into the fund.

Keep in mind, passive investors are exposed to both deal risk and sponsor risk. Deal risk can be mitigated by choosing a sponsor who has a track record of good deals, and can potentially be further mitigated by investing in a fund. Sponsor risk can be mitigated by doing a good job of vetting and (IMHO) is the most important step in evaluating any passive investment.

If you choose to take the passive route, the most important thing is to get the sponsor right.  Passive investing is more about the right people than it is anything else.  Trusting the sponsor will be paramount to you sleeping at night, and I can't stress that enough. It does no good to place capital with a sponsor who has an attractive pitch to find out later they can't be trusted. Making sense of the investment and understanding their track record is important, of course, but I believe you should be confident you have the right sponsor above all else. 

One way to approach this is to look for sponsors who use professional administration. In that environment, most of a passive investor’s concerns related to honesty, transparency, accuracy, and timeliness are managed by the administrator who is a neutral party. It’s like having a referee that is overseeing the investment to ensure the sponsor continues to do what they promised and to make sure there is no funny business going on. In some cases with professional administration you also have access to much deeper vetting of the sponsor that will include personal background checks covering things like bankruptcy, judgements, litigation, criminal history, and other red flags related to a sponsor that you would want to avoid.

If that is not available, another approach is to talk to investors who have had an experience with the sponsor already. If the sponsor is willing to connect you, there is nothing that replaces a conversation with someone who has already built that trust with the sponsor over time.

Be careful not to get blinded by just the projected returns. Your overall experience in a passive investment involves much more than the returns, so when you find a sponsor you like, do yourself a favor and get clear on what your experience will be like AFTER you have invested.

How accessible is the sponsor? If you have a concern, are you able to talk to them? Do they return your calls? Are they transparent? Even when they run into a problem? Does the sponsor have a communication plan? How often will you receive reporting? How are they delivered? What will the reports cover? How often will you see financials? When will you receive tax documents? How often will you receive distributions? In the sponsor's history, have the reporting and distributions been on time?

The purpose of investing passively is to leverage a sponsor's time, expertise, and ability to source great deals, but your overall experience will be driven by the answers to all the questions above, so make sure to cover that in your vetting process. Otherwise, any return you might make simply will not be worth it.

All the best,

Jack

Post: QOTW: What are your best (and legal) tax saving strategies?

Jack Martin#3 Mobile Home Park Investing ContributorPosted
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I would echo cost segregation / bonus depreciation, particularly when applied to mobile home parks.  As mentioned by @Paul Moore above, investors can achieve passive losses in year one of 100% of their investment. For investors who have experienced significant passive gains, having access to those kind of passive losses can make a huge impact on their tax strategy. This strategy may not be appropriate for short-term deals or other types of real estate, but with MHPs it is incredibly powerful.  

Example: an investor experiences a $1MM gain from the sale of an investment property and cannot find a suitable replacement property for a 1031 exchange, therefore is staring at a $400k tax bill. 

Solution: invest the $1MM gain into a mobile home park syndication where cost segregation / bonus depreciation is being utilized. 

Result: investor receives passive losses on K1 of $1MM, therefore eliminating the $400k tax bill that would have been due for that year. Over the life of the investment this means the $400k is now earning a yield as invested dollars (time value of money) so the investor is earning yield on the entire $1MM.  

Keep in mind, this is a tax deferral strategy, so at the end of the investment depreciation will be recaptured. However, the recapture occurs at a lower flat rate instead of the rate of a high income tax bracket, which gives the additional benefit of tax arbitrage. 

Again, this strategy may not be appropriate for smaller properties or short-term deals. It can be applied to other real estate types as well, but the benefits within MHPs far outweigh other commercial real estate.  This is due to the large portion of a mobile home park's value being allocated to land improvements, which qualify for bonus depreciation. 

All the best, 

Jack

Post: Large real estate agent tax write off???

Jack Martin#3 Mobile Home Park Investing ContributorPosted
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I would echo the mobile home park syndication idea. Bonus depreciation on MHPs can offer more significant passive losses to investors due to a larger portion of the property's value being allocated to land improvements, rather than a building.  In other words, more of the property's value qualifies for bonus depreciation, so there are greater passive losses to distribute to investors in the syndication. 

If you explore this route, make sure the sponsor is electing to take bonus depreciation, as they would have the alternate choice to pursue straight line depreciation instead. Keep in mind that if you invest in a syndication with the intent to receive those benefits, you will need to invest in the same calendar year that you received your gain. That way you will receive passive losses from the syndication in the same calendar year, which will offset your passive gains.   

All the best, 

Jack

Post: 1031 exchange crowdfunding site

Jack Martin#3 Mobile Home Park Investing ContributorPosted
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@David Nadelstumph if you cannot find a suitable 1031 solution, consider exploring LP interests in mobile home parks where the sponsor is electing bonus depreciation. MHPs are more favorable that other real estate with respect to bonus depreciation and can create significant tax deferral for investors. 

Post: Mobile home park valuation/purchase

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@Todd Blank you will get a lot of response if you take the time to share some details.  You don't have to give out the address or name of the park, but how many spaces, monthly lot rent, how many vacant spaces, number of tenant owned homes and park owned homes, nature of the utilities, price expectation from the seller, would be a minimum for people to help you evaluate. Share as much as you can and you will get lots of help here on BP. 

Post: Mobile Home Park... Deal or No Deal

Jack Martin#3 Mobile Home Park Investing ContributorPosted
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@Rebecca Thacker the advice from @Frank Rolfe is spot on. If you have gotten yourself familiar with the subject park and like the area, identify all the parks within 20 miles and call them directly to see if they would consider selling. Maybe you will find a better one that way. 

Post: Value of tax accountant/preparer with real estate specialty

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Good advice from @Natalie Kolodij here. You will always benefit from having expertise on your team. If you are just getting started and are focused on SFRs, network around with your local REIA or other SFR investors you can connect with and see who they are using for tax and why. A simple consultation with one or two of them should land you in a pretty good spot.

As you grow, if you get into larger and more complex real estate transactions, you will DEFINITELY want to have experts on your team. My partner and I acquire MHPs with investor capital and have several tax advisors on our team to advise us on complex tax issues and strategies that will impact our investors and ourselves, both this year and in the future. You simply cannot ignore or overlook having qualified experts on your team, and having those who deeply understand the particular asset class of real estate you are investing in will be even more valuable. 

All the best,

Jack