All Forum Posts by: Jennifer Hoover
Jennifer Hoover has started 4 posts and replied 34 times.
Post: Utica National Insurance Group

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
Quote from @Angel Peng:
Currently in contract to close on my first duplex but the Landlord insurance cost took me by surprise. The highest quote I got for my duplex was $2600 annually and the lowest was $1300. The mid range is around $1950. I want to go for the lowest but I also want to make sure that I am appropriately protected. With all the specifics being the equal, how could the range be so wide? Utica National Insurance Group is the one going for $1300. Any with good or bad experiences with them that you can share. Thank you so much!
Hi there, local agent and real estate investor here! Did you shop around with regional local companies besides Utica National? The $1300 does not seem out of line at all to me, insurance right now is going through the roof and what would have been ludicrous last year is now looking like the new normal.
Post: Need Broker recommendations!

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
Messaged you! We work that area quite a bit if you're looking for representation but also... I'm intrigued personally! We are looking to add another larger property to our personal portfolio, and this is the area we invest in, so this is interesting X2!
Post: 5 UNIT Purchase in NY, needs financing

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
Quote from @David Avery:
Make 1 unit a storage room and get residential loan.
Then change 4 units to 5 after financing is done.
The process to do this is Utica NY is not conducive to what you're suggesting. He would have to change the zoning and use which is fairly involved (on top of evicting a tenant from a fully rented building).
Post: 5 UNIT Purchase in NY, needs financing

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
If you're looking for a local lender to the Utica area that is not a private lender, Adirondack Bank sometimes does these and I've had fair luck with Community Bank (my 4 unit and another loan is through them). As an agent locally I see which lenders tend to do these and which do not. Good luck.
Post: New to BP - Growing my Portfolio

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
Quote from @Crystal Urena:
Good Morning,
My name is Crystal Urena. I live in NYC and have worked for a healthcare organization for the past 15 years. Over the past two years I’ve invested in two properties (4 units total) in Upstate NY. All of the units are rented. I still have my Full-Time job and manage the four units. I’m now looking to learn more and for different/better strategies to grown my portfolio faster.
Thank you.
Welcome! I am a Realtor here in Utica, and I am a very active investor in the Greater Utica area and Mohawk Valley myself as well. Reach out anytime if you need a hand locally! We also do Zoom and in person meets every month or so where a few of us talk trends, deals, etc. We would be happy to include you!
Post: My First Duplex in Utica, NY

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
Quote from @Kadeem Howell:
Hey BiggerPockets. Looking for feedback on a rental in Utica, NY I'm considering.. Here is a link to the BP analysis that I ran. Below are a few notes:
- The house is a 2 family with each unit having 4 beds with 2 baths, 2,680 Sq ft on a 3,560 sq ft lot
- Seller is motivated and want to move out of state. Last sale date is 03/2013
- Purchase Price of $40,000 using a personal loan at 9.99% of $47,000 to cover purchase, closing costs and loan fees.
- Currently rented at $1,625 and is occupied. One unit is month to month at $825, the other units at $800 has a lease until August 1st
- Tenants cover all utilities (water/sewer, gas, electric)
- Current owner is only covering taxes and insurance. House is owned free and clear. $3,000 in annual taxes, $990 in annual insurance
- I put 5% of the rent for vacancy, 5% for capex, and 5% for maintenance
- Per seller, most updated maintenance on the house was replacing the ceiling in the first floor living room (Sent pictures for evidence)
- I have no intentions of doing immediate rehab unless necessary (Will be seeing the house next week). The ARV is used in the calculator is the full market value based off the last years (2016) assessment.
- 10% for a property manager.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Hey Kadeem! Jumping in (as an investor and Realtor who is actually living/working/buying in this market) to say, if possible, seek out an agent/investor/local in-the-know for this one. Many investors on here are commenting on these posts with really great knowledge and expertise... with that being said, much of that knowledge and expertise is based on incredibly different, often larger/metro markets, and it often doesn't apply the same in smaller/specialized areas. I have people from other areas who are often shocked at the deals here and think they're "too good to be true". Sometimes they are, but often they're exactly what they look like. It's simply a market that largely hasn't "hit" yet (but is starting to!) here in the Mohawk valley. There are a LOT of deals that people in larger markets can't quite believe. I bought two duplexes last year under 60k with rents at 800-900 each unit with minimal repairs or CapEx issues. It can be done here, and is. Reach out anytime, I'm happy to give you a more specific & locally informed perspective.
Post: My First Duplex in Utica, NY

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
Quote from @Charlie MacPherson:
Be sure you've researched the Utica market. Like a lot of upstate NY, manufacturing jobs have gone elsewhere over the last few decades.
I've been out of touch with Utica for 15 years or so, but when I last worked with a distributor there, it was in pretty tough shape. I remember commenting to my wife that the only things that seemed to be thriving were pawn shops and strip clubs.
A lot has changed in 15 years, and this is simply not the case in Utica right now.
Post: Investing in Tiny Homes

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
Highly recommend the book "Pocket Neighborhoods". There is a ton of information on this with several examples in California.
Post: Moving home and looking for real estate Information

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
i can't speak for Syracuse, but I can definitely speak to Utica! We have lots going on and rentals are doing very well. It's the sweet spot where there are still deal to be had, and an incredible market for renting (new hospital, new industry, lots of influx). I'm a licensed agent for the top agency here, AND a very active investor for both flips and multi family. My clients (and also me!) are finding the market to be quite good. Let me know if you want to chat further, there's a lot of nuance and a lot of info, but the short answer is YES, Utica (and Rome, too!) is a great market right now.
Post: Hello from Upstate New York, a hidden paradise

- Real Estate Agent
- Mohawk Valley, NY
- Posts 34
- Votes 18
Quote from @Jennifer-Lee Fox:
Quote from @Danny Liu:
Upstate NY definitely caught a piece of the short term rental boom-- plenty of Manhattan-ers buy vacation homes up there, or book out Airbnbs in the summers for months at a time. I personally loved my stay near Saranac Lake!
I'd do a short-term or medium-term rental up there, preferably close to a lesser known lake, or somewhere where people can ski. If you have an architect friend, it'd also be a good idea to buy a vacant lot and build a creative cabin-style home. The one I stayed in cost me like $400/night
I'm not too sure about the overall viability of a long term rental property-- have you guys looked up the population increase numbers over the last 10, 20 years? You'd be putting your chips in your town's local job market.
There are quite a few air bnbs popping up. I have an idea to build an accessory dwelling unit in the form of a garage with second floor apartment and converting my home to a multi-family that can easily be converted back to a single family. I need a garage and I owe nothing on the home. The apartment would provide income until my home is fully converted and ready to rent.
If you need a garage anyway, plan to build it to easily convert back to single-family, PLUS owe nothing on the home?! Pssh... that seems like an easy win that uses your home's equity, increases the value, and brings you some $$$ too. Realtor & Investor approved! Good luck, NY Neighbor!