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All Forum Posts by: Jerryll Noorden

Jerryll Noorden has started 131 posts and replied 4545 times.

Post: Connecting with Cash Buyers For Wholesaling

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Wilton, CT
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The best way to build relationships with cash buyers is to establish yourself as an authority in this space. Show that you’re knowledgeable and consistently securing great deals where the numbers work.

Unlike other types of leads, nurturing a cash buyer’s trust doesn’t take much time. A few good deals are often all it takes for them to see you as a reliable source.

When you’re consistently getting solid deals, you won’t even need to search for cash buyers—they’ll come looking for you!

Instead of actively seeking out buyers, focus on what I do here: establish credibility, showcase your knowledge and competence, and lock in high-quality deals where the numbers make sense.

In this space, transparency and honesty are key. Many wholesalers miss this because they’ve been taught by gurus to mislead sellers, claiming to be cash buyers themselves. In my experience, being upfront about wholesaling and explaining that you’re looking to assign the contract has resulted in numerous signed agreements. Sellers appreciate the honesty.

So, how can you establish this kind of credibility?

  1. Create an Online Presence: Build a strong presence on Facebook, Instagram, and a credible, professional website. Share valuable content relevant to both flippers and homeowners.
  2. Commit to Consistency: Invest time and effort into consistently posting valuable content. This is a long-term strategy but essential for building engagement and trust.
  3. Apply the 3 Pillars of Conversion: Implement my 3 Pillars of Conversion in everything you do (just Google it—resources are available for free). Understand the concept of a motivated seller, and apply this insight to your interactions and content.

When you do this, you won’t have to worry about finding cash buyers—they’ll find you.

Post: Advice on NYC rental markets in Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Wilton, CT
  • Posts 4,757
  • Votes 4,045
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

All of your posts are sales techniques to drive business to you and you dial it back by making it like I was being mean to you. I've been watching you do this for ten years. "We are all here to help each other grow" is a catchline you use to sell to more people.

I’m not going to get into a back-and-forth here. Everything I mentioned above is accurate and based on real results, not just opinions. I didn’t respond to your negative post to win an argument—I replied to encourage him and others not to give up on a dream just because one person may feel it’s not achievable.

Listen, have you ever considered that maybe you and even a few others may be wrong? The reason I do what I do showing proof is because it inspires others making them realize the dream is within reach. I try to inspire.

I get a TON of these personal messages:

Frankly, the way you’ve turned his question and plea for help into a personal attack with accusations about me “selling services” is beyond me.

:) Wishing you a wonderful Sunday, Mr. Green!

Post: Advice on NYC rental markets in Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Wilton, CT
  • Posts 4,757
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Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @Jerryll Noorden:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

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Why don't you try to do it in NYC and see how it goes? Try it in DUMBO and see how that goes, please. You sound ridiculous. Call someone who grew up in the boroughs and ask them if they would ever sell their house, on assignment, to a 22-year-old from out of the area.

FIRST: No one is attacking you. This is a forum, and people are entitled to have different opinions. You seem overly aggressive here.

SECOND: You might want to tone down the aggression a bit. Calling respected contributors with significant experience in wholesaling “ridiculous” doesn’t add to the discussion. I genuinely asked why you think not being born in the market you invest in would have any impact on success.

THIRD: I didn’t realize your advice not to pursue it was because of his age. That’s why I asked—it seemed unusual to discourage him from NYC investment without further explanation.

FOURTH: Now that I understand your perspective, I still respectfully disagree. Why? Because I have a 22-year-old student in NYC who’s succeeding at this.

And I have another student who made a $700K assignment fee in Beverly Hills, California.

Can you imagine if Myles, came to you for advise BEFORE he came to me? That would have cost him $700K. Never EVER do this again!

Mr. Green, we’ve had this conversation before. You’ve accused me of selling a “pipe dream,” but it seems like you’re projecting your own limitations onto others. Just because something may be difficult for you doesn’t mean it’s impossible for someone else.

All we can do is share our experiences and insights. You told him not to pursue this, but you didn’t provide a solid reason why. It’s more helpful to offer information rather than discourage someone from exploring their own path.

FIFTH: I appreciate that you want to look out for others, but encouraging education rather than discouragement is more constructive. Sharing the potential challenges he might face, rather than discouraging him, allows him to assess whether he’s ready to tackle them, increasing his chance of success.

We’re all here to help each other grow, right?

Sixth: It seems you may not realize that I’m a recognized expert in credibility and conversion strategies. I teach how to establish credibility through my concept, The 3 Pillars of Conversion, which I’ve developed to help clients succeed regardless of location or age—as long as they target the right audience.

Lastly: You’ve accused me of “selling SEO.” But where? How? All I’m doing is educating and sharing my methods, for free. Sharing how I get free leads and explaining the process openly is about teaching, not selling.

Post: Advice on NYC rental markets in Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Wilton, CT
  • Posts 4,757
  • Votes 4,045
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

Did you grow up in NYC or one of the boroughs? If not, you have no chance at wholesaling in those areas under any circumstances. NYC and the Bronx and Queens and Brooklyn are generally impossible wholesale areas anyway, but if you add in that you are an out-of-town student alleging to buy people's houses, NYers will eat you alive. Do not do it. And don't think North Jersey will work. It's oversaturated with crappy wholesalers who don't know ARV and can't estimate repairs costs.

 What makes him not having grown up in NYC not having a chance?

Don't quite understand what you mean.

Wholesaling has nothing to do with where you grew up.

Wholesaling (as well as any other business) is about lead generation.

I didn't grow up in NYC, and if I were to wholesale there I would dominate that market with my ability to rank websites #1, dominate online presence, credibility, and competence strategies I can apply to my online image.

I think this is why so many people are "afraid" of wholesaling.

Break wholesaling down into its most basic elements. All you need are leads, motivated seller leads. Once you do, you will find eager buyers, and that is "all" it takes.

Of course, I simplified it (a little), but that is basically the gist of it.

Post: Advice on NYC rental markets in Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Wilton, CT
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If you need to do Skip Tracing, mailers, and "Propstream", you don't understand the concept of motivated sellers, and that is why so many of you struggle.

If you do not understand the concept of motivated sellers, how do you expect to be successful in finding them.

I recommend you read my post here:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/93/topics/1215116-all-i...

Post: SMS messages per lead P2P texting

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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  • Wilton, CT
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What do you call a "lead"?

Very curious!

Post: Lawyer Reviewed Contract

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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Worth it? Probably not (when you consider how much it will cost). Is it a good idea? sure, why not? It probably can't do any harm.

The reason I say probably not worth it, is because you can talk to your local wholesalers, local REIA, local real estate agent/broker, who is also an investor, you can ask ChatGPT, etc. etc. you can find all your answers there.

So for the price they will charge you, meh I don't think it is worth it, but yeah it can be a good idea.

Post: Is this an end to Wholesaling?

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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Quote from @Eric N.:
Quote from @Jerryll Noorden:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Jerryll Noorden:

Y'all still love to crap on wholesaling I see.

It is still beyond me to go to a wholesaling forum where people are supposed to help, educate learn, and teach, instead you just to call wholesalers frauds, adding no value and or everything else said.

I know for a fact that this is not true as we have been honest, and transparent upfront and the seller had no other way out then wholesale it and after explaining it to them even when given the option fo rus buying it in cash they decided to give wholesaling a try.

The takeaway is this.

You are not the seller, who the hell are you to decide for the seller that it is not for them?

People, why go to a wholesaling group where people want to wholesale and stroke each other's ego, about how wholesalers are dirt?

It is like joining a vegan club and crap on vegans because people are meant to eat meat. WHAT IS THE POINT?!

Do you really not see how flat-out STOOOPID this is?

Sheesh guys. Just stop!

GO from the Wholesale haters anonymously club. Meet once a week, hell go 2ce a week. rent a hotel conference room and go have fun down talking wholesaling and wholesalers. Just don't do it here. So not the place.

wow!

just sad.


part of the Problem Jerryll its simply Illegal the way most do it.. I just took 5 hours of my CA Brokers CE and there was a whole page on unlicensed activity and EP ( equity purchasers) fines are stiff and on the EP the sellers have a 2 year right of redemption.. But of course folks dont actually read the laws ..  I think thats the major issue and with state after state finally clarifying and clearly denoting that bringing Buyer and Seller together for comp is brokering and a license is required.. then you get into disclosures and such like CA has.. its a dying method.. Although I still close many deals with wholesalers little fee's attached to them.. So its not you  its the states.

 And I get that.

And that is not at all what I am talking about.

Reread this entire rant about wholesaling.

One (small ) part is about the legalities of wholesaling.

And a huge part is just crapping on wholesaling and wholesalers based on personal opinions that show how friggin daft most of responders are. If wholesaling was about intelligence most of you would fail miserably. The entire premise of this entire rant is just dumb,  as in stupid, as in no effort of using actual intelligence.

Those are 2 entirely different topics.

I am not going to argue or debate this boring age-old debate of the ethics of wholesaling much like I am not going to debate whether or not guns are evil. 

It is a tool.

I find it pathetic that most of will try to find ANY reason to crap on wholesaling even when the main topic was not even dealing with it. 

Get it?

Anyway, I should never have gotten myself involved because I am legitimately allergic to stupidity and ignorance.

I get hives!

So I am out.

Take my advice, everyone. Go start a Wholesale Haters Anonymous club and keep stocking each other's egos.

pathetic

And BTW?

If most people do wholesaling wrong and illegally, for crap's sake then educate the masses on how to do it right. Like I am doing.

Instead what good does crapping on wholesalers do?

No, really.

Tell me.

What good is this entire BS thread do .. to ANYONE?

Is this just a quest for "likes" and votes? Is this a popularity contest to you all?

Do something productive rather than this. I wish I had y'all's kind of time on my hands to waste it on absolute mind-numbing stupidity.


 Most haters (not pointing a finger at anyone in particular, just generally speaking) are simply angry and greedy as F. They want to gobble up all transactions in the market for their own greedy, malicious, hateful, profiteering aims. They couldn't care less about sellers. And they pontificate as Great Poobahs and ethics preachers to make themselves look good in the eyes of the public (PR tactics to gaslight and fool the gullible). It is counterproductive, does no good and does not deter anyone from wholesaling. If anything, it just creates anger and resentment, and is akin to "Guns are Evil" rhetoric, as you accurately pointed out. I don't blame you for leaving this thread for good. It's totally stupid and pointless to engage in arguments with greedy , angry, malicious BS-ers LOL

Thank you for creating GrumpyHare platform and teaching wholesalers how to properly do the business and improve their SEO rankings. You rock, man! 


 Exactly.

What is the point of being on a wholesaling forum where the entire point is to advocate wholesaling, to further it, and then learn to collaborate when they jump on the first opportunity to constantly bash it?

And then to make this a sticky. Just pointless. 

Post: are there any skip tracing websites high on accuracy?

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Wilton, CT
  • Posts 4,757
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Quote from @Aung Satt:
Quote from @Jerryll Noorden:

Let me ask you this.

What have you done to show you are credible? 

Do you have a website?


I do not have my own websites but I am currently working as VA for others so I only have my company website sir


 Please dude, no need call me sir.

So if I am understanding you correctly, you are not an investor yourself, you are working for other investors?

Post: Questions when working with a new/unfamiliar wholesaler

Jerryll Noorden
#2 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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I don't buy from wholesalers, so I never had to ask anyone any questions, but if I WERE to buy from a wholesaler (eewww, do you know who you are talking to? Do you??), I would ask...

"Does the seller know you are wholesaling this property?"

If the answer is yes,  keep this wholesaler on your list. Chances are you have someone with honor transparency and integrity on your hands and that is very rare.

If the answer is no... well, if he lied to the homeowner, why would you think he would not lie to you?

But I am a weirdo, don't listen to me! :)