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All Forum Posts by: Joe S.

Joe S. has started 351 posts and replied 3669 times.

Post: If you had $1M, how would you invest it?

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Quote from @Austin Fowler:

In my own case, I'll be putting the $1M in Crossing 5 from BAM capital. That's what I actually plan to do IRL. This is just the latest deal due diligence has been completed on, I've got no financial connection to the project. I like ground up multifamily development, and participating in such projects as an LP. Love addressing housing shortages. This will take me from 2200+ doors to 2500+ doors as an LP.

This will take me from 2200+ doors to 2500+ doors as an LP.


Can you expound on that a bit more, please?

Post: The 5 Ugly Truths of Real Estate Investing

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Quote from @Matthew Irish-Jones:

After 15 years I can say I am successful in Real Estate.  I have a Brokerage, multi million dollar Construction company, Property Management company and a sizable portfolio.

Here are the Ugly Truths about Real Estate I have learned along the way: 

1. You have to sacrifice years of your life.  When I first started I worked full time and invested on the side, before going all in on investing and building the business.  Those days required 60-100 hour work weeks and almost all of the work on Real Estate was done nights and weekends.  The idea that you can be a start up investor, be passive, and be rich is false.  Bootstrapping in Real Estate is the furthest thing from passive I have ever experienced. 

2. Our team started as a rag tag bunch of laborers that specialized in trash outs, cleaning toilets (that was my job), and painting. Now our rag tag bunch characters are doing full home renovations, apartment complex's, and large scale construction jobs. Through it all we have had the same core team members driving the team forward, and have experienced (even through Covid), almost NO turnover!!!

3. BRRR investing is not for newbie's. Its highly complex and your unknown-unknowns will absolutely crush you. I HIGHLY suggest the house hack strategy for new investors. Yes its a lot of work. Yes moving sucks. Yes its not sexy. However, its safe and achievable. You need a strategy you can pull off.

4. Investing in Real Estate is RISKY. Lots of rosy colored glasses in this industry and people telling me how safe Real Estate investing is. From 2010 to 2015 Real estate investing was fairly safe and it was tough to lose. With labor costs skyrocketing, interest rates up, and inventory low, its very hard to invest in Real Estate now. Lots of investors lose money, don't kid yourself that you can't lose in Real Estate. Sometimes the CapEx and cost to maintain properties well outweighs the income and investors absolutely end up selling for losses.

5. Investing long term is a wealth diversification strategy, not a lifestyle decision.  If you come into Real Estate with the mindset of your life getting easier, you have more wealth, and less cognitive complexity you are going to fail quickly and miserably.  You need W-2 income to invest.  You have to work off  hours on investing and instead of relaxing at night you will be staying up late crunching numbers and learning.  The reality is if you get 20 doors you will retire in your 60's far better off than you would have without those doors.  Acquiring those doors requires you to live below your means, save precious Capital for your investments, and work your A** off in your free time. 

You can become a successful Real Estate investor, but the amount of time, effort, elbow grease, and the realistic chance of losing principle should not be underestimated.   


 Sometimes the CapEx and cost to maintain properties well outweighs the income…


Right… rentals can cost the owner to own…

Post: If you had $1M, how would you invest it?

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Quote from @James Hamling:

Ok @Austin Fowler you really want to know what I'd do if dropped $1m liquid in my hands and I gotta utilize it in Real Estate, even though all of 7 people on BP will comprehend it...... 

About $5k into website, 2 VA's and system.

From there 1 VA calls on active buyers agents in designated markets presenting pitch to fill my calendly.

From there I pitch my C4D program for "nearly financed" buyers. When the buyers agent get's leads, works em, and finds there buyers are oh-so-close to approval but not there, they can still earn that commission via my C4D program. 

Everything would revolve around "median" world of things. 

Required minimum down payment is 20%. No exceptions. Everything else, there would be guidelines but just that, guidelines and negotiable whereas down has 0-flex. 

All app's via website. Va#2 process's per training. 

Buyers get a pre-qual budget. Buyers agent then helps them shop for such. When they find the right one, buyers enter agreement and post held escrowed down with me. Buyers agent submits PA, myself as buyer. 

At end of day, it's infinite investing, because when closing is done and all $ has cleared I am personally $0 into any property, that $1m was simply used to launch the biz and then to leverage to landing the PA's. 

The tenant-buyers financed the purchase via there down, which I utilize to unlock financing on the purchase. I would be using portfolio lending on DSCR underwriting, cross securitized by, you got it, the giant pile of cash sitting in an account spinning round n round.

Now being C4D buyers there is 2 spreads. First is on purchase price, second is interest rate. 

I only have to capitalize risk exposure, overhead and profits because I have $0 invested capitol. Thus a small spread can equal sizable returns. 

Now if you understand the math here, buyers doing 20% down on a buy price that has a profitable margin built in, then you understand how it would be more then 20% on my actual purchase. Probably more-so 30%. 

In summary, I wouldn't deploy 90% of the $1m, I would leverage the lions share of the $1m to unlock infinite returns via OPM. 

And I am now well liquid to cover any potential default issues if such were to occur. But being "median" focused and with C4D buyers who put 20%+ down aka significant skin into it, well one would have to chop off there own preverbal legs to give me a bloody nose. And I'd be well liquid to more then amply take care of any bloody-nose. 

My risk exposure would be less then that of standard landlording, as the tenants would have far more securitization. So risk wise, it's a low-risk strategy in real estate. 

And end of day, everybody is winning, the agents win, the end buyers win, and I win. 

The trick to it all is setting and keeping good fences. 

100% of C4D's I have seen blow-up have all had the common component of neglect on behalf of the investor. Selling to persons they shouldn't have, under securitizing, not keeping strong fences. 

There ya-go Austin, that's what I'd do. And I'd dedicate as-much-as 20hrs a week to it. I'd fund my va's for 90 days and from there forward I'd require the venture to self-fund all operations from revenues. And that would be my "stop-loss". The moment it stops self-operating, I'd end it, regardless of a causation. 

Thus preserving my capitol. 

Hey James, you do not have to wait to get $1 million to do one or two of deals as a test run…IMO
I think that is a very thought out plan. A couple of thoughts though. From my observation, it is harder to get a substantial down payment and a higher than market interest rate at the same time. (Maybe your market is different.)

In Texas contract for deeds are not smiled upon at least that's the word on the street. I have a number of DSCR Loans that I am nervous to wrap if I could do the C4D like you're speaking over here I would definitely consider doing it.✅

I have a friend of sorts that has wrapped some DSCR loans with no problems. I'm just a bit nervous to do so…

Post: If you had $1M, how would you invest it?

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Quote from @Austin Fowler:
Quote from @Jakub R.:

Hi Austin. My current strategy includes investing in multifamily syndications and single family rentals. While syndications are very hands off I do like owning an asset that produces income. My main concern about syndications is that they feel much less liquid and while some of them have high upside potential I plan to hold both asset types across markets for diversification. 

I have been recently looking at linear markets like northeast OH and west PA. What are your thoughts on these?


 Hi Jakub, I also like mixing single-family long-term rentals with passive multifamily. I don’t personally focus on specific markets, rather I like diversity. I have assets in AL, AR, CA, FL, GA, IL, IN, MA, MO, MS, OH, OK, PA, TN, TX, WA, and additional assets in Australia, Canada, and Brazil. When it comes to single-family, I like cash flow, so I’m not buying at the moment because both prices and interest rates are too high relative to rents. When it comes to multifamily, my due diligence starts with the operator. I like publicly discoverable operators that you can find easily with a Google search, managing hundreds of millions to a few billion in assets, with a focus on single assets, not funds, at least 10 years of experience in their current form, at least 10 buildings taken full cycle, an excellent track record of delivering outstanding investor returns throughout their history, and deals on offer that are similar to the deals they have completed successful. I like ground-up development, particularly affordable housing, and my ideal deal is building the last multifamily community in an otherwise built out and bustling neighborhood with lots of entertainment, transport, and employment diversity.

 I have assets in AL, AR, CA, FL, GA, IL, IN, MA, MO, MS, OH, OK, PA, TN, TX, WA, and additional assets in Australia, Canada, and Brazil. 

I did not realize you were so big time Austin. 😊

Post: If you had $1M, how would you invest it?

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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Austin Fowler:
Quote from @Jakub R.:

Hi Austin. My current strategy includes investing in multifamily syndications and single family rentals. While syndications are very hands off I do like owning an asset that produces income. My main concern about syndications is that they feel much less liquid and while some of them have high upside potential I plan to hold both asset types across markets for diversification. 

I have been recently looking at linear markets like northeast OH and west PA. What are your thoughts on these?


 Hi Jakub, I also like mixing single-family long-term rentals with passive multifamily. I don’t personally focus on specific markets, rather I like diversity. I have assets in AL, AR, CA, FL, GA, IL, IN, MA, MO, MS, OH, OK, PA, TN, TX, WA, and additional assets in Australia, Canada, and Brazil. When it comes to single-family, I like cash flow, so I’m not buying at the moment because both prices and interest rates are too high relative to rents. When it comes to multifamily, my due diligence starts with the operator. I like publicly discoverable operators that you can find easily with a Google search, managing hundreds of millions to a few billion in assets, with a focus on single assets, not funds, at least 10 years of experience in their current form, at least 10 buildings taken full cycle, an excellent track record of delivering outstanding investor returns throughout their history, and deals on offer that are similar to the deals they have completed successful. I like ground-up development, particularly affordable housing, and my ideal deal is building the last multifamily community in an otherwise built out and bustling neighborhood with lots of entertainment, transport, and employment diversity.


 You're the one raises capital then buys turnkey and "guarantees" 8% return if I remember correctly? I remember this as I joined this forum with fractional reserve banking.

Is this a disguised thread to raise capital again?


He got me...... I hadn't noticed this at all, wow..... I shouldn't feel dumb for falling for it, what I shared is valid and true but I do feel dumb for falling for it.... The 1 time I don't research the poster before reply........


 You gave a good rundown James so leave it like that. ✅

Post: Down Payment Funding

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Quote from @Patrick Roberts:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Ashley Price:

I’m not sure if you meant to tag me but we don’t have up front costs which is why it was not mentioned. These are the terms and lowest rates I’ve seen within my organization. Have a good day


I did mean to and I dont believe you that you have 5% interest rates for fix and flip loans.. bank rates are higher than that by 2 points plus there is closing costs and your broker fees.. I see this as either not real or a big time bait and switch and the OP  simply is a newbie who can get sucked into wasting time and money on deals that are not real.

 I dont believe they have 5% rates for any loans, much less fix and flip. Ten yr treasury is around 4.3% right and that's risk free with high liquidity and a tax advantage. No shot that some private loan at 5% isnt a trap of some form. 

I think it’s some sort of credit card program not necessarily a long-term loan… the OP was asking for down payment money. Credit Card stacking  could get them there. ( I’m not offering any sort of pros or cons of Credit Card stacking that’s simply what I think is being offered though.) 

Post: Where to find more properties to manage?

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Quote from @Madison Peterson:

Hello,

My company manages a little over 100 residential and commercial properties we've grown this number mainly by referrals through our brokerage. The problem we have run into is inventory, it is extremely low. I have tenants reaching out to me asking about homes I have rented and if I have any others and it is discouraging to have to turn them down when I know they are quality and would be great. 

My question is how are other property managers growing their portfolio?

Renting out the properties is not a problem, but finding new landlords is. This has not happened to our team before and we are trying to figure out solutions.

If you have any ideas, anything at all, I would love to hear!

Thank you,

Madison

My company manages…

I’m assuming it’s your company as in you’re the owner of the company or is it a company that you work at?

Post: Down Payment Funding

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Quote from @Ashley Price:

Firstly you should ask more questions before you make assumptions. It’s extremely unprofessional of you to assume without asking the proper questions. I see that you are a lender and have experience but lack the knowledge of the company I’m a white label with and it’s making you feel you know my business better than I do. Not sure if you’re trying to get points on here or how that works. However I specifically mentioned what OUR program offers thing most lenders do not “creative financing “ if you’d like to connect on a professional level I’m available but I do not go back in fourth it’s unprofessional. 

Firstly you should ask more questions before you make assumptions.

OK here goes.😁

The rate you quoted did not lineup with industry so that was one of the elephants in the room. Maybe you could elaborate on that. 

You also mentioned create finance in your reply. Can you elaborate a little more on that?

I read your profile and it appears that there could be a service provided as in Credit Card stacking… was that something you had in mind for the OP?🤓

Post: Should I file the Deed, or wait, for some reason..?

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Quote from @Account Closed:

I purchase a property recently subject-to, and got the deed to the property.  I'm planning to hold it long term. 

Though I have the deed, I'm wondering if I should go ahead and 'file it' with the county.  I haven't cured the default on the mortgage yet (it was 6 months behind, and in default).  

I have considered just wholesaling the property as well.  

Are there reasons I would NOT want to file the deed?  My thought is that having too many properties in my name could be a problem.  And/or that having the property change hands too rapidly (I file the deed in my name, then sell it soon after) could create various kinds of problems.

Also if I file the deed, then need to Quit Claim the property back to the seller, could that create weird title issues that creates a liability for myself and/or the original seller?

Thank you very much for your help!


This is not easy to explain in a site that is primarily dominated by anti-Sub2 posters to start with. Read the audience. You're not going to get much help unless you pay for training and I suppose that is an option.

Also your original post was contradicting. You’re saying you’re going to keep it long-term and then you’re talking about whole selling the property. You left a lot of details out so some of the posters are assuming you didn’t even get the proper paperwork to ask for a payoff from the lender. Maybe you can comment on that. 

It appears  Ken M offers sub2 training. Maybe you should talk to him about it. I’m not familiar with what he has to offer, but if it’s one on one, it’s probably better than getting into some overcrowded Facebook group that’s dominated by newbies. 

Post: I got robbed—and I didn’t even see it coming.

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Quote from @Jorge Vazquez:
Quote from @V.G Jason:

These posts are just suspicious engagement one's with some AI backstory to help create the narrative.

If you have a designated PM team, you don't fish in another sea unless it's a completely one off or specialized issue. In those cases, they aren't done quickly. 


Hey Jason, totally get the skepticism but this really did happen—I haven’t even deleted the post so people can see it for themselves: https://www.facebook.com/Broker.Jorge.Vazquez/posts/pfbid02UETqYVorUx7b9i35aEYQDTC3XCrHcSsYmzpuEXUpSHcW9C7ArfXd32U5wsXRQ8B1l?rdid=XHd10dAtcXu2qnWj. Check out all the Facebook accounts involved, it’s crazy. All of my stories are real—either they come straight from me, from one of my 75 agents, my database of 25,000 investors, or my wholesaler partners. I only write real stuff because I love educating and writing—been doing it for over 20 years and probably enjoy it even more than real estate. Thanks for reading my content… do you write too?


 my 75 agents

Didn’t realize you was so big time. :-)

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