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Post: Anyone Signed Up with S8 Academy - Section 8 Housing Program?

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Quote from @Stuart Udis:
Paying for a Section 8 investment course is the equivalent of an aspiring cook paying for a course titled: How To Boil Water
what kind of price did they charge for the course and what did it entail?
Post: I’m thinking of becoming a guru and need suggestions on how to present myself to the

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Quote from @Doug P.:
@Joe S. I'd say you've got a pretty solid set of ideas here. One thing I did notice was missing is a story about how you went bankrupt with a previously wildly successful business as a septic tank cleaner but were able to pull yourself up by your bootstraps with a set of breakthrough real estate investment techniques you invented.
You need that 'common man' appeal since your students will all have terrible credit and be working dead-end jobs or businesses that they hate. They need to be able to identify with the old failure you in order to be inspired to pay to become the new successful you.
OK first off you were once broke and living in moms basement or garage thats a must.
Also no real Guru can go to market with out pictures in a private jet preferably in the air.. One can rent one for about 5k an hour so book and hour get your photos and off you go.
Now Ask Kevin actually bought a phenom 3 I think and now every video he does he mentions he is now a JET PILOT with a whopping 300 to 400 hours.. he started in the Cirrus same plane I had. But I dont come off as a Jet Pilot expert like him and I have 5 times the experience he does. So Now Kevin is jumping into the Aviation crash U tube scene like commenting on Air India flight like he knows LOL Sell the sizzle.
Also keep mind Guru's are only as good as the Utah fulfillment company they hire to market them and run the back end..And really good fulfillment companies ( they manage all sorts of trade shows and different speakers on tours) These guys make Bank the ones that own those companies I mean BIG MONEY
Post: I’m thinking of becoming a guru and need suggestions on how to present myself to the

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Quote from @Nick C.:
You've got to pull on your student's heart strings. Remember you're not really selling real estate knowledge; you're selling freedom, the ability to quit their job, and spend more time with their family.
Right. They are doing it for their family and their kids.. how can they say, They love their family if they don’t want to get out from under their 9-5 job to spend time with their families.?
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Quote from @Doug P.:
@Joe S. I'd say you've got a pretty solid set of ideas here. One thing I did notice was missing is a story about how you went bankrupt with a previously wildly successful business as a septic tank cleaner but were able to pull yourself up by your bootstraps with a set of breakthrough real estate investment techniques you invented.
You need that 'common man' appeal since your students will all have terrible credit and be working dead-end jobs or businesses that they hate. They need to be able to identify with the old failure you in order to be inspired to pay to become the new successful you.
Post: Apple boosts investment in Austin and across Texas

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would you suggest somebody buying a property in Austin from a rockstar agent? :-)
Post: My business plan to start my real estate journey

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Quote from @Joab Kirk:
Hey I am Joab Kirk,
A new investor looking to start my real estate journey. I currently live in Adelaide South Australia. I have always wanted to invest in real estate as my day job and my passion, firefighting doesn't allow me to have the financial freedom that I want. I started my education journey listening to the early episodes of BP podcast and reading many books that have been recommended through the podcast. After nearly a year of education i have been able to come up with a business plan on what i think would be a good place to start. I would love any feedback anyone could give even just a thumbs up would help let me know I'm on the right path.
Buy a house in Mt barker or in an Area that is showing good signs for investment. To buy an average house in MT barker it costs 700k and I can get a first home buyer grant for 5% deposit (35k). Then I want to house hack my house and rent out 1-2 rooms for tenants. I will try to find a good deal and get a house that I can confidently say will gain equity in the next 5 years. I will then try to find an investor to help me add to my deposit not sure how much but maybe 50k in exchange for a guaranteed return (e.g 50k investment and 25k return in 5 years). This will bring down the monthly mortgage payments and I will be able to sell the house in 5 years for a profit for me and the investor.
Financials:
Purchase price: $716,900 (Mt barker median)
Deposit of 5% from my personal funds and 50k from investor for a total deposit of 12%. $85,845
No lenders mortgage insurance with First home buyer government incentive
Loan amount: $631,000
Interest rate: 5.0% (owner-occupier, 30-year term)
Monthly repayments:
=$3,385/month
=$40,620/year
Rental income from House Hacking
2 roommates paying $280/week → $560/week
Total rental income = $29,120/year
Out of pocket (annual) = -40,620 + 29,120 = -11,500
Negative Cash flow but still cheaper than renting and building equity in my property
Assume 6.5% capital growth annually (conservative for Mt Barker):
$716,900 grows → $981,000 in 5 years
Equity gain = $264,000
House value after 5 years $981,000
Loan remaining –$562,000
Equity $419,000
Repay investor ($75k) –$75,000
Your profit ~$344,000
Private Investor (family or friend) will give me the 50k as a gift 3 months in advance so the bank considers it as genuine savings.
Will need an atorney to structure my investors contract but looking at something like the offer below.
Offer 8–10% annual return (simple interest) = $20–25k over 5 years.
Structure: Gift
Security: Put a caveat on the property to secure their funds
Location research:
In Mount Barker, rental demand is strong, with a median house rent of $570 per week, reflecting a 4% increase over the past year. However, the rental vacancy rate is low, at 0.81%, indicating limited supply. This tight market can make finding rental properties more competitive. Mount Barker is experiencing significant growth, with a projected population increase to over 55,000 residents, positioning it as South Australia's second-largest city. This expansion is spurring substantial infrastructure and employment developments. For instance, the Mount Barker City Centre Project is a $100 million initiative aimed at revitalizing the town center, including new community facilities and business opportunities. Additionally, housing developer Cedar Woods has acquired a 64-hectare site to create a master-planned community with approximately 860 dwellings, contributing to local employment and economic growth. These developments are expected to enhance Mount Barker's infrastructure and job market, presenting promising investment opportunities.
I know this is very rough but would love some feedback before i put it all into a package.
Kind Regards,
Joab Kirk
You do realize this going public right?
Post: What’s holding you back?

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Quote from @Daniel McDonald:
Curious, you can consider this market research, but what's holding you back from hiring someone else to manage your STR(s)?
I know the obvious answer, too costly?
But what else? Do you just enjoy it? Maybe time isn't an issue? You don't think anyone could do it better?
Oversaturation which drives the profits lower than a lot of long-term rentals.
Usually nonprofitable after you hire management.
When I was serious about doing it, the MANAGEMENT that was recommended to me wouldn’t even answer his phone.
To costly to furnish the property for test run.
HOAs have banned them in a lot of areas that I have owned properties.
That’s the short list. Any work around on those and we might do business. :-)
Post: I’m thinking of becoming a guru and need suggestions on how to present myself to the

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I thought of becoming a guru. I actually know more than most of the other gurus I’ve just been too modest…
I realize it’s not what you know. It’s how you package it so I might need suggestions with my outfit/disguise.
Should I use a muscle shirt in order to show off my enormous biceps and armpit hairs?
Should I shave my head or wear a ball cap instead?
Should I wear short shorts and sit in a chair with the camera aimed at my tan hairy legs and….
Should I rent a Lamborghini to stand in front of or simply go out to the dealership and have somebody take my picture there?
Should I do my podcast at someone’s Airbnb or book a nice hotel room on Priceline?
Should I ask my announcer to introduce me as a go giver, a dope dude, or possibly a mixture of the two?
There are so many possibilities and options. Any suggestions that could help me really go big in the guru business?I’m not doing it for the money. I’m doing it cause I wanna help people.
The reason why I have to charge though is if I offered things too cheaply people do not value what they don’t have to pay for. I made my millions a long time ago and I want to give back to the community, but I only wanna work with those that are serious. Serious enough to raise the limit on their credit cards if need be. Serious enough to take food off the table in order to join community that will fast track them to wealth and riches. A group of serious individuals that know their true Why. I’m looking for doers not tire kickers. Looking for the serious that wants to make generational wealth for their children and grandchildren..
Post: Anyone Signed Up with S8 Academy - Section 8 Housing Program?

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Quote from @Andres Rivero:
We just started with S8 Acquisitions, which is not S8academy. S8 Acquisitions does state that they offer an all-in-one experience. The acquisition of the property, the PM and it can be section 8 tenants if you wish. Thus far, you pay up front the wholesale fee of $15,000 for three properties. The properties will be sent to you via a portal. We started back in late May and received 6 properties to make offers on. Most were MLS properties and not meeting our requirements. Our loan officer said to keep it at a DSCR ratio of 1.2 or higher for the DSCR loan. We are having a hard time finding that DCSR Ratio without having to lowball the offer to almost half the asking price. We choose to use the Affirm payment plan because we did not want to pay the wholesale fee upfront. However, S8 did mention over the call that they would refund us the fee if not happy.
However, S8 did mention over the call that they would refund us the fee if not happy.
I’m skeptical. For your sake, I hope it works out.🧐
Post: Tenant not paying rent, eviction process

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Quote from @Kevin Oh:
I am a new real estate investor, I have two properties. Both tenants have their lease up and I gave them new leases. Tenant A received the lease and did not pay or acknowledge she is going to sign. Tenant A has been a problem with not paying in the past, I went to the eviction office today and filed an eviction for Tenant A.
I just bought another property for a house hack and gave lease agreements to all the tenants. This one tenant is giving me some serious problems (tenant B). Tenant B is on Month to Month with the original seller, I gave Tenant B the lease agreement for month to month, I signed it and was waiting for her signature. Tenant B signed it but added an additional clause. The contract is now void. I am going to give tenant B a 30 day notice. I may have to file for eviction.
My question: Even with eviction notice or 30 day notice, does the tenants have to pay for rent? If they do not, how would I get the rent from them? If they do more damage to property than security deposit, can I go after them for rest of payment for damages? What would be the next step?
Contact an eviction attorney that handles evictions in your area. After the evictions put your properties with a property management company.
Some property management companies might actually do the eviction for you if you go ahead and sign up with them.