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All Forum Posts by: John Underwood

John Underwood has started 110 posts and replied 12364 times.

Post: Airbnb offering services

John Underwood
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Quote from @Michael Baum:
Quote from @John Underwood:

 It looks like you won't have any say in the offered services as they are part of the Airbnb app.

So you are saying that people can select those services and we have no say in it at all?

 That's the way it looks to me.

Post: How to get listed on Google Vacation Rentals and Marriott Homes & Villa?

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I wasn't 100% sure myself. I know that some other 3rd party OTA's push to Google vacations rentals.

Here is what I found with a Google search.

To get listed on Google Vacation Rentals, you'll need to connect your property through an online travel agency (OTA) or a connectivity partner that integrates with Google. While direct listings are limited to property management companies with extensive portfolios, other property owners can leverage OTAs like Tripadvisor, Expedia, or HolidayLettings, which are partners with Google Vacation Rentals. Alternatively, you can use a connectivity partner like Uplisting, Rentals United, or Hostaway to manage your listings and connectivity to Google. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

1. List through an OTA:

Find an OTA that is a partner with Google Vacation Rentals, such as Tripadvisor or Expedia. 

List your property on their site, ensuring your details are accurate and complete. 

Your listing will likely be crawled by Google and displayed on Google Vacation Rentals. 

2. List through a connectivity partner:

Explore connectivity partners like Uplisting, Rentals United, or Hostaway. 

Connect your property management system (PMS) to the connectivity partner. 

The partner will sync your property data and make it visible on Google Vacation Rentals. 

3. Ensure compliance: 

Make sure your property meets Google's criteria, including being a short-term rental with a valid address.

Ensure your listing content (descriptions, photos, pricing) is accurate and high-quality.

Comply with cleanliness and safety standards.

Sync availability through your partner's calendar integration.

Post: Airbnb offering services

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Quote from @Michael Baum:
Quote from @John Underwood:

 Guest are getting these services from Airbnb not the owner. Airbnb is making the money off these services.

Possibly. Still I would be concerned at first. The IRS can get tricky when it comes to verbiage.

This is something I wouldn't look to offer being as we are pretty far out of town. I can't imagine any of the services offered would be cost effective.

 It looks like you won't have any say in the offered services as they are part of the Airbnb app.

Post: Airbnb offering services

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Quote from @Michael Baum:

I would be curious to see if it triggers the significant services part of the IRS code.

Anytime you offer some kind of significant service like personal chef, daily house cleaning and pretty much all of the services listed would trigger it.

That would change your tax status and the way you file and the deductions you can claim.

I would be very hesitant until I knew for sure.


 Guest are getting these services from Airbnb not the owner. Airbnb is making the money off these services.

Post: Airbnb offering services

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Quote from @JD Martin:

I think it's going to be a big flop. For the following reasons:

1. Airbnb users tend to be CABs.

2. They already suck from a host's perspective in that everything is geared towards sucking up to the person booking rather than providing equal support to both sides. That may work fine when you're talking about a $1000 house rental that doesn't have a lot of other options right now besides VRBO, but isn't going to fly for a chef or bike rental place or anything else that is dealing in small dollar commodities and can tell AirBnb to suck it when it comes to eating up big fees or having CAB guests expecting imported sushi meals when they paid for McDonald's services. 

3. The vast majority of AirBnb users are looking for inexpensive accommodations and really nothing more. It's a select few that are looking for "experiences". For most people this is a cheap place to drop their heads while they're in town. 


 I agree!

Post: Mike's Deal of the Day - May 14th 2025

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Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey everyone. Yet another decent deal on a Roku TV!  $198

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/201216466

ONN 55” Class 4K UHD (2160P) LED Roku Smart Television HDR. A perfectly usable TV for a mid size room. Most likely this is made by either TCL or HiSense. Nothing fancy here and TV prices seem to be climbing a bit and Roku TV's are getting farther and fewer between.

I have an ONN tv at our primary home in a bedroom and it has been solid for 3 years now with no issues.
That's a great price 

Post: STR Property MGMT Software

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VRBO software is excellent.

Post: Keeping a backyard fountain clean suggestions?

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Teach the cleaners how to check it and remove the leaves etc. Then call a handyman for any repairs when required.

Post: Airbnb offering services

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Quote from @Gianfranco Casagrandi:
Quote from @John Underwood:

I also noticed things like the private chef is pretty expensive. From my experience the majority of the Airbnb crowd are pretty frugal. I could see something like this doing a little better on Vrbo due to the higher clientele but still being iffy.


 How much extra are the cost for the private chef?


 $50. to $200 per person.

Post: Airbnb offering services

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Quote from @Myka Artis:

I think it's a smart move. Outside services are already offering this, and I think this will help Airbnb get in on those services and drive revenue. The question I had about it was whether the hosts can opt into these services and whether they are also receiving a cut. I think the vetting process will be pretty simple because they used to have people do professional photography and host experiences, so they have done a pretty good job of vetting services that they have allowed on their platform. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.


 I bet Airbnb doesn't share with hosts any fees they get