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All Forum Posts by: John J Kelly III

John J Kelly III has started 2 posts and replied 18 times.

I feel the same way even being surrounded by a few very successful people who do this as their full time "job."  They've been at it for 10+ years and the one guy has about 60 doors and the other 240 or so. I find myself looking at where they are currently compared to where I am and think there is now way I could get there.   Both of them reference when they started they cash flowed about $75/mo on the first deal and yet here they are with generational wealth and serious cash flow.

I kind of view the 10% penalty as the cost of entrance into REI. The remainder would leave me a few hundred thousand to invest. Looking to maximize cashflow and scale quickly it seems as a multi family/apartment fits my goals best.

I understand the long term strategy but it seems a little "not worth it" to buy a single or two and cash flow a few hundred dollars for each door.  Yes, that's a small minded mindset but it's where my head is currently.  

As a straight W2 paying 100k+ in taxes I would welcome the tax advantages as well!  

Given these numbers what is your net income cash flow from deal?  I'm assuming cash flow positive? 

Quote from @Greg Scott:

I did something very similar to what your friends did.


 I'd love to hear your story and how you made it happen!

Possible long post.

Over the past several years I keep meeting people who are successfully invested in real estate.  Some use the cash flow to fund their hobbies but at least 2 of the people have completely replaced their W2 jobs and reap the benefits of their investing.  Aside from the replacing their W2 income they also "haven't paid income tax in decades."  Now that caught my attention because as a straight W2 earner with essentially zero write-offs I've been paying 6 figures per year just in taxes.  Absolutely brutal!!

I'd be very interested in making a move towards rental income with the ultimate goal of replacing my W2 earnings.  Definitely not in the near future but as a goal.  I have a property management company I am familiar with (manages 600+ doors) and can come up with a bit of cash.  Cash flow would be ideal so I am thinking a multi family or apartment might be the best way for me to go, maybe even commercial property with the idea of scaling?

Funds can come from a variety of places but I'm even thinking of taking some from my 401k roll over. Sure it's gaining a decent return but down the road when I start to withdraw the tax implications will be there. So, why not take that money now, pay the 10% penalty but be able to use the depreciation from the REI to offset the income from the withdrawal. Just thinking out loud here. Even have a HELOC available, etc.

The one gentleman I met worked the numbers backwards.  Needed to replace his W2 of 300k per year.  So he did figured he'd need X amount of doors to have passive income of 25k per month.  Took him a bit but he did it.  

I'm in the Philadelphia suburbs and would probably prefer to invest locally and at least being able to drive by and physically see my investments.   

Thoughts? Ah, the elephant in the room. I could come up with about 400k not including HELOC, but absolutely would be interested in spending less than that.

I welcome all thoughts and comments!

Any specifics on how you got to 50m? Was it from SFH, commercial real estate, apartments?


inquiring minds want to know!

Great to hear. I'm in the Delco area as well and anxious to begin in REI. Not sure what direction to in just yet. Gut says commercial or multi family.

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