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All Forum Posts by: Joseph Bui

Joseph Bui has started 2 posts and replied 288 times.

Post: Completed my first flip in Detroit, Michigan (Morningside)

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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TLDR Version:

Morningside Neighborhood in Detroit, MI

4 Bedrooms, 2 bath (after rehab), 2000 sqft roughly

Purchase Price: 50k

Closing Cost at purchase: 2500

Rehab Cost: 75k
This was a full rehab. Originally the property was a 4 bedroom 1 bathroom. I converted it into a 4 bed 2 bath. Kept original flooring, but there was major damage so cost quite a bit to revive it.

Holding Cost: 1-2k
I paid cash, but there was insurance (a little pricey since it was vacant), utilities (winters can be pricey trying to keep it warm), etc.

Other maintenance stuff for selling: 5k:
Had to replace a large oversized window that got cracked somewhere between finishing rehab and going under contract. Staging was like 2k (not sure I would do that again, details below). Other small items.

Sold Price: 170k (cash offer. Prior to this offer, I was also under contract for 188k, details below).

Profit: roughly 20k after sales closing costs

Full Version:

In early 2024, I purchased a property in the Morningside neighborhood in Detroit for 50k. I already owned 6 other properties in the city, but those are long term holds. This was my first purchase with the intent to flip. I'm based out of the Seattle area and I never flew there to even look at the property. The property was run down and in terrible shape. At the time, I didn't realize brick would be in much higher demand for selling, lesson learned. This one was regular siding. The place was a 4 bed 1 bath and the whole thing needed to be redone. However, Ive been in investing in Detroit for a couple years at that time and knew Morningside was up and coming and comps in the area were 170k and higher.

Rehab ended up costing roughly 75k. This was the full works. Brand new kitchen (no applicances), nicer counter tops, new cabinets. For flooring, I attempted to keep the old hard wood, but it probably cost more to revive that, then to just put in new vinyl. The full bath was downstairs and that was fully remodeled. Upstairs, there was an oversized closet next to the master. I decided to turn that into another full bath with a standup shower and put a door connecting the master to it, as well as a hallway door. New bathroom from scratch was about 10k or so. On top of all the interior work, there was siding that needed to replaced, portions of the driveway needed to be repaved and I added a full fence. I started and nearly completed the rehab without ever setting my own eyes on it. Something I should have done was found an agent before I even started rehab and have them check on the property to make sure quality was at its highest from the beginning. I didn't get my agent involved until the last quarter of the rehab and that was a mistake. There wasn't any major issues, but I received comments that the work was on the sloppy side and could have been a little more refined. If I would have known this earlier, I would have addressed it. Overall the rehab took 5 months which was also longer than expected. Was expecting 3 months.

Once rehab was complete, October 2024, I got it listed for 185k. The first week it was on the market, it was a very hot property. Many tours and within that first week, I got my first offer. After a little back and forth, we landed at 200k with 12k in seller concessions to cover their closing costs (188k net). Buyer was also doing the Michigan first time home buyers program where their down payment would be covered by the state. At the time, I was feeling great, offer immediately, potential good profit on my first flip in Detroit. Then reality started to hit. First, I didn't get any other offers even though I never marked the property as pending. It was October and as a couple weeks passed, tours started to slowly die. Then the buyers started running into financing issues. For whatever reason they decided to switch lenders in the middle of the closing process (something about their agent wanted to use his friend). This delayed the closing by a couple of weeks. After a couple of weeks, there was some type of job loss for the buyers and they ended up not qualifying and the deal was canceled. Its my opinion that they tried to get out on purpose, but it doesn't matter. Now we are in early December and I haven't received any other offers. On top of that, it was very cold in Michigan and tours were nearly non existent. We decided to take the property off the market and wait till March when the weather warms up and people would be interested in buying again.

Fast forward to March, we put the house back on the market for 185k. The first few weeks had a lot of tours, but no offers. After a couple weeks I lower it to 180k. This seemed to spark more tours and interest, but some of the feedback were pointing out issues that were never brought up before, so I addressed those. Finally another came in at 167k cash. We negotiated and landed on 170k cash. As we all know, with a cash offer I don't have to deal with possible financing failure. Also, by this time, I had held the property for a year and so I was getting kind of antsy and wanted to get what I could. Once I took the offer, the closing was quick because it was cash. The inspection went well overall. They gave me a long list of things to address and I said I would address half of them (the cheapest ones) and had to shell out another $850 plus fixing a very large window that somehow got cracked after rehab ($1900). After those issues were addressed, we closed the deal and I ended up with 20k in profit after the sales closing costs for about a 15% roi in my 1 year of holding the property. I'm a little disappointed due to the fact that I had basically a 188k offer a few months back, but I need to remind myself that this isn't like the Seattle market and to be happy with a decent profit. Onto the the next.

Feel free to post any questions and dm if you want to discuss details. Happy to help however I can.


Post: Thoughts on midterm rentals in Detroit

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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Quote from @Travis Biziorek:

Hey Joseph—great question. I know we've already talked privately about this but I wanted to share my thoughts for the forums as well.

I actually run an STR over in that area (Morningside/east English Village), though mine is a bit unique—5 beds, 3 baths—so it tends to attract larger groups. I've never had traveling nurses personally, but I suspect my place is just too big and expensive for that segment.

That said, I’ve got a buddy who runs a couple of his homes in Harper Woods as STRs and does really well with it. He often gets bookings that last 3+ months, and one guest stayed nearly six months while his wife was receiving treatment at a nearby hospital. So yes, midterm rentals can definitely work in this area.

Just keep in mind it’s a bit more active than a standard long-term rental—you’ll be fielding more inquiries, managing turnovers, and coordinating cleanings more often. But if you’re okay with the extra involvement, there’s definitely a niche to fill.


 Thanks Travis, appreciate the information. 

Post: Thoughts on midterm rentals in Detroit

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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Quote from @Amanda Rechsteiner:

Hi Joseph! 

I have been building my portfolio over in Lansing in the mid term rental space. Just an idea based on my experience and how I got started... I did not know how this market would be for mid term rentals and if there was even demand to fill. I looked at other mid term rental listings but clearly don't know about their inquiries and success. After listening to several podcasts, I heard you can list it as unfurnished with "furnishings to come." I posted my listing on Furnished Finder UNfurnished to get a feel for the demand as I was finishing renovations on the house (if you do this, still make sure you have great photos to make it stand out!). This does not always work but hear me out. I had to give it a few days to give it some traction and then I had 3 inquiries within a week. Travelers wanting to move in ASAP and they trusted that I would have it furnished nicely. Our current tenant paid for their background/credit checks and filled out their application within a few hours of inquiring and paid the first months rent to secure the place within 24 hours. Got him all set up in our system (TurboTenant) and he gave us a week to furnish it. Ever since then, we still get weekly inquiries on the property to the point where I'm buying another house over there and doing about the same thing haha. At this point, I have more tenant inquiries than houses and I'm realizing it is a great market for mid term rentals. At the beginning before I knew that though, I was not in a place to furnish an entire house for the off chance of it not working out. This is how I proceeded and it worked so it is an idea. If you decide to go this route, just make sure you have professional photography taken after furnishing before your tenant moves in so you can update your listing photos.

You never know unless you try! Best of luck.  


 Great advice. Will give it a shot. Thank you. 

Post: Thoughts on midterm rentals in Detroit

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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I have a couple vacant rehabbed properties in the Detroit property area right now and I’m figuring out my next move with them. I’ve looked into midterm rentals and seeing that there are a lot of hospitals in the area, maybe traveling nurses might be a good target segment. Anybody have experience with midterm rentals in Detroit specifically targeting traveling nurses? My properties are in the Morningside/east English village vicinity. 

Post: How do you mitigate risk while investing in Detroit?

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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I have 8 doors in Detroit and it can be tough at times. I work with my PM to get a minimum credit score (650 or so) and income requirements (3x the rent). Don’t be in a hurry to place a tenant because it much more trouble to place a bad tenant than to keep it vacant. When a property is vacant, I board up all the windows until it’s rented again. Happy to connect and knowledge share. 

Post: New to investing I would like some networking and advices :)

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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I’m not familiar with the Chicagoland area but I do have 10 doors across Memphis and Detroit and happy to knowledge share. 

Post: 1% Rule (or close) in Any US/state City?

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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Not too many market have a lot of properties that match the 1% rule. I’m pretty heavily invested in Detroit and Memphis with 10 doors across both cities. Still possible to find 1% rule properties with cash flow in those markets. Happy to connect and knowledge share about what I’m seeing. 

Post: New to Real Estate/Bigger Pockets

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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Hi Jim, what markets are you looking into? I have a 10 door portfolio across Detroit and Memphis and would be happy to connect and knowledge share.

Post: New to Real Estate Investing

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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Hi Colin, what markets are you looking into? I have have a 10 door portfolio across Detroit and Memphis and would be happy to connect and knowledge share.

Post: Asking for advice

Joseph Bui#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
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What markets are you looking into? I have a 10 door portfolio across Detroit and Memphis and would be happy to connect and knowledge share.