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All Forum Posts by: Joshua McGinnis

Joshua McGinnis has started 60 posts and replied 417 times.

Post: New member from LA

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

@Tom Camarda welcome to BP. You and @Shane W. are both in similar industries here in the LA area - you two should connect!

I'm from Texas and am also on the lookout for good investments there (Houston, Dallas, Austin, etc). It is worth taking a look at @memphisinvest if you're thinking about turnkey.

Post: Don't Fold Your Cards Too Soon

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

@Christina R. I've yet to have this problem since I've just started and no one has accepted any of my offers so far. But first and foremost, I always communicate to the seller that any offer I make is contingent upon an inspection and that if either me or my partner finds it needs more work than what our offer price has reflected or we find a lien or anything else that might impact value, we will need to renegotiate the price. Most seem amenable to that.

I did recently lose out on a deal because another wholesaler beat me to it just days before I could call the seller back. When I was talking to the seller, he was complaining about how the other guy (wholesaler) had initially offered him $13K, but after he saw it, he told him he would only pay $11K. I guess the seller wasn't thrilled that the offer was lower, but he took it and they closed escrow this week. 

Post: Don't Fold Your Cards Too Soon

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

Great question @J Scott 

This part is a bit of an art. I try and get as much information as I can from the seller about the condition of the home and bake into my offer the need for at least $5K (though, I usually bake in more) for repairs into my offer. 

I try to get my seller to be in the same ballpark as me on price, but I make sure to tell them that the offer is contingent upon my partner on the ground (an active/experienced investor/agent) inspecting the property. I also disclose upfront that if we find upon inspection that the house needs more work than what we budgeted for, we may have to renegotiate the price. I am also prepared to go the other direction. If I baked in $10K for repairs in my offer and the house only needs $3K-$5K of work, I have no issues coming up on price if I think it will help the deal go smoother in one way or the other.

It's not an exact science and is indeed the most difficult part of this whole venture, but with a little planning, being transparent to the seller, and someone to be your eyes/ears on the ground, it can be done.

Post: Closing gifts

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

@Joey Dwyer Yup - I know that guy! That's how we started doing it. It's not a gift for everyone though. You just need to feel out your client and see what you think they'd appreciate.

@David Hunter Love the lawn care service idea. I'll have to keep that idea in my back pocket.

Post: Don't Fold Your Cards Too Soon

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

@Deborah Hill Great question. You could pick up the phone in your area and find someone  (like a local agent or property manager or someone on BP) within an hour or two to go inspect the property, take pics, etc for $50-$150 once you have it under contract or close to it.

In my case, I'm wholesaling in a market far-far away so I wanted to network and have people on the ground that I could trust and would help me not only inspect the property, but guide me on determining values, coming up with offer amounts, and helping find cash buyers. 

So, when I first started doing this, I spent a solid two weeks googling every wholesaler, investor, and non-agent RE person in the are and calling them. I told them I was new and that I just wanted to connect in case I have a deal.

From there, I whittled down my contacts to two solid guys who have a good reputations and were interested in helping me. I've been keeping in touch with them (trying not to bug them or waste a lot of their time) and show them that I'm serious.

Post: Don't Fold Your Cards Too Soon

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

@Rene Martinez @Deborah Hill @Vincent Orobor 

As @Patrick Britton said, wholesaling "virtually" can be done, but it takes work and a few key components. 

Here's a quick summary of what you need based on my approach (others may do it differently):

  • Identify a market that you want to wholesale in
  • Find and/or buy a list of high-equity homeowners
  • Send out yellow letters to the list with a phone number that goes to voicemail
  • Wait for calls to come into your voicemail
  • Return the calls, identify motivation, gather intelligence (address, motivation, asking price, etc)
  • For properties that meet your criteria, make an offer using this formula (ARV * 70% - Rehab Costs - Wholesale Fee)
  • Get a signed accepted offer
  • Having someone on the ground visually inspect the property, negotiate price again if the rehab is greater than you expect
  • Either open escrow and buy the house and then dispose of it a number of ways or find a cash buyer and assign it to them.

That's essentially what I'm doing in a nutshell. I hope this helps!

Post: Don't Fold Your Cards Too Soon

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

I just wanted to share a quick tidbit about two wholesale leads I received today. 

I sent  1200+ yellow letters throughout Dec and most of Jan. After I sent my last round of letters to my initial list a few weeks ago, I noticed a lull in the calls. They stopped coming in.

Well, lo and behold, I received two calls today, nearly back-to-back, from two folks who are actively looking to sell their property. One of them most likely wants retail so I referred it out. But for the other, I will be making an offer on it this weekend!

As I ramp up my next round of mailings, I just wanted to remind other newbie wholesalers that you're best leads may not come until well after you've sent out your final letters. People will hang on to them and call when they feel they're in a position to sell, and that may be long after they received the initial letter.

I'm also finding that with all of the weather that has been inundating Cleveland, sellers are feeling the need to "wait until the weather clears" before making any moves. To me, that means that now is a great time to start planting seeds that you'll be able to harvest in the spring / summer months right around the corner.

Hang in there and keep at it!

Post: Agents: What are your favorite online services / tools?

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

Well, of course! I was hoping to get some folks to chime in on what services/tools they use that they feel are critical to running their business.

Post: Closing gifts

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

@Joey Dwyer congrats on the recent closing!

We've done nice bottles of wine, engraved silverware, gift certs to mid-high end home good stores (restoration hardware, etc), etc. It depends on the client and what we think they'd appreciate. We always try to aim for practicality because that is kind of who we are and how we market ourselves.

Hope that helps.

Post: Agents: What are your favorite online services / tools?

Joshua McGinnisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beverly Hills, CA
  • Posts 472
  • Votes 272

I come across a ton of different leadgen services and marketing platforms covering everything from helping you setup your Facebook seller listing campaign to automating your direct mail marketing.

What other online tools and services are you using to help you in the real estate biz?