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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

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Post: How to approach Mr Banker that controls forclosure.

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Originally posted by @Scott Kennedy:
I'm a newbie at 39 and I would appreciate any help with my situation . I have traced a vacant house (been vacant for at least two years) back to an out of state Bank in Oklahoma. I want to call them ASAP and was hoping someone could give me tips on what questions I should be asking and to whom I should be speaking. also, any ideas on how to get access to the house so I can come up with a number for them.

Unless you are on the loan they are prevented by the FCRA to discuss the property with you. You have to find the owner.

Post: Going To My First Local REIA Meeting Any Advice?

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Originally posted by @Jesse R.:

I'm going to my first REIA tomorrow can anyone give me some good advice as to how I can present myself and my real estate business? I'm hoping to find Private Money Lenders at the meeting. Some good pointers would be helpful. Thanks.

 Keep in mind that there will other people who are new as well. A good ice breaker is asking people what they do during the day and how long they have been doing real estate. A lot of people will be there looking for Private Money just like you are, so don't let that put you off. You have to think in terms of what you can offer them. People with money are constantly being approached so it's a good idea to be subtle and friendly unless you have an actual deal that you are shopping around to find a partner for. Other than that, you will find the same cross section of people you meet anywhere else. Some friendly, some reserved some crazy :-) Just go with the flow. 

Post: Owner Finance - Looking for a lender

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Originally posted by @Jhoana Olarte:

Hello Community, I have a question if someone has suggestions I will really appreciate it.

I have a client whom is trying sell a house he bought and completely remodeled with his own money. He is considering selling it via owner finance, however, he wants to do a cash-out refinance first. Is there a bank or lender out there that will allow him to refinance the home and subsequently owner finance it to a buyer? 

Please advise.

Thanks 

It can be done. He might be able to get 80% LTV on a cash out. Generally the banks want 6 months seasoning (from the time he bought the house) but not always. He can sell it on a Wrap to a new buyer. Look for a regional bank that does portfolio lending. He will need to show income of course to support the debt payment. I can think of three different ways he can do this, but it is based on details we don't have here.

Post: financing during a divorce questions

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Originally posted by @Lynn Gormley:

hello, new to BP and excited with everything there is to learn. I have a question regarding financing. Not looking for legal advice, but more looking for good financing advice. I am in the process of a divorce and plan on investing with some of the money from the sale of our home. The problem is the house may take awhile to sell, and I've just re-entered the workforce and my income earnings are pathetic. Would you suggest I try to qualify for financing while still married, (obviously I would agree and sign whatever that husband would not be responsible), or do you suggest that I wait until afterwards to avoid any legal/financial complications or wait and find a way to use OPM? I don't have anyone I know of to borrow money from, so it would be hard money, and I don't expect my income to go up much (why I plan on buying more rentals). I have one rental, paid in full, bringing in $1k, and my fico is 655, still working on getting a couple negatives off. It's hard to wait and not know how much money I can earn investing. Divorce won't be final until June 2018.

 If you fill out a loan application stating that you are married and don't disclose that you plan on divorcing you are committing fraud. Anything that would impact a lender's decision to lend money (yes, it is real money they are putting at risk, just as if *you* were lending to some dishonest person) is required to be disclosed. Do the right thing, and I am sure you will, be honest in your dealings. These are people's lives you are affecting.

Post: How Common is 30 Year Financing? And how this affects analysis..

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@Carl Pickens @Anthony Gayden @Steve Vaughan @Ben Zimmerman 

I used to think the same thing. But the last two down cycles convinced me that long term holders face a very real threat of market crashes (no, of course THAT will never happen again ;-).  Also, the fact that predicting the next thirty years with 200 Trillion in unfunded liabilities is impossible. 

Interesting that no one addressed my number one reason (in post above)

1) Nobody who had a "paid off" property lost it to foreclosure in the last 5 real estate down cycles (This is a BIG thing)

As Carl says, "you can just pay it off in 15 years anyway" but people lack the discipline to remain consistent for 15 years doing such. 

You cut your risk in half by paying it off in 15 years andI can look forward to the next down turn. I will be doing what Warren Buffet does, buying on the cheap.

Post: NEED HELP ASAP!!!!!!! NEED PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT FORMS

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Originally posted by @Fabian Moody:

Hey BP Family,

           I am a young real estate investor who currently has been in the Buy & Hold System of investing. I love this system and will continue to grow the portfolio but now its time to get a lil more aggressive in the streets of my city. I currently reside in Birmingham, Al. I am here looking for the correct and properly worded purchase and sale agreement with a and/or assign clause. As well as a assignment contract and a legal sized memorandum of contract . I need the contracts as soon as possible as I get my wholesale system together for my city of and state of Birmingham, Al. I greatly appreciate this BP family if anybody can help me with these documents. I am looking to start as soon as possible 

 Yes, yes, we will drop everything we are doing and jump at your say so to do your bidding because you have decided at 3:00 in the morning to become a real estate investor. Uh, what's in it for us?

Post: How do I buy investment houses to rent out with no money down???

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Originally posted by @Adam Mazzochi:

I’m a contractor and have two apartments already in two different locations. I want to purchase a lot of houses to hold and rent out to build a huge amount of equity for retirement. Seems that banks want 25 percent down to start. I’m a winner and need the opportunity to succeed but I keep hearing the same thing lol 25 percent down to start. Anyone have any thoughts or advice :-) ???

 Look into Wraps, Owner Financing, Land Contracts, Subject To & Lease Options. Just do a search in the search field above. Oh, and "your welcome". ;-)

Post: Is an Entity the way to go?

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Originally posted by @Philippe Benhamou:

What's up guys!

As a new investor I was wondering if forming an entity is the way to go? 

I am just starting this business as a Buy & Hold Investor, and I have always belived that business and personal financials should never mix. I wouldn't want to have my personal name tied to many loan debts as I am afraid it would interfere with my personal "financials". On the other had, I hear people say that having this debt to leverage deals tied to you personally allows you to get great deductions from taxes.

Any thoughts or explinations of what the best system is would appreciated!

 An entity has to prove income to qualify for a loan just like any other borrower. If your concern is "I wouldn't want to have my personal name tied to many loan debts as I am afraid it would interfere with my personal "financials", then you lack the confidence to be successful and need to work on that first. Not a bad thing, we all had to start somewhere. But, you won't be able to get it both ways. If you want to borrow money, starting out they will require that you personally guarantee the loan. 

Post: How Common is 30 Year Financing? And how this affects analysis..

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Originally posted by @Christian Wathne:

Bill T. There are actually very many reasons to go for a 30yr loan rather than a 10 or 15. And wanting to pay off property may be short sighted.

Money tied up in a property is not doing anything for you besides avoiding 4-5% interest. Instead, you could stay borrowed against the equity and put that money towards additional investments assuming they generate additional income. 10+% CoC returns are easy to find.

To the OP, yes, 30 year loans on residential (1-4) units are very common. Commercial is generally shorter.

 As you wish. ;-)  I've been at this for 30 years so I have a different perspective.

Here are a couple of things for your consideration (and anyone else investing)

1) Nobody who had a "paid off" property lost it to foreclosure in the last 5 real estate down cycles  (This is a BIG thing)

2) You can always borrow against a "paid off" property if you need to

3) All the money coming from rents is PROFIT after the loan is "paid off"

4) You can't begin to guess what the next 30 years will bring and you are making assumptions you have no right to make about how "safe" a 30 year mortgage will be.

5) You have a LOT more flexibility when it comes to "paid off" properties than properties that have "liens" (mortgages) against them. 

6) By paying off the properties faster, you can borrower against them in the future to scoop up great deals from people who didn't plan ahead and have 30 year loans and need to sell fast. 

7) My point is: treat it like a business. Wishful thinking is not a business plan.

But, here are the numbers:







Term 30 years 15 years

Purchase $200,000 $200,000

Down 20% $40,000 $40,000

Loan $160,000 $160,000

Interest 4% 4%

Payment $764 $1,184






Year 1 $9,168 $14,208

Year 2 $9,168 $14,208

Year 3 $9,168 $14,208

Year 4 $9,168 $14,208

Year 5 $9,168 $14,208

Year 6 $9,168 $14,208

Year 7 $9,168 $14,208

Year 8 $9,168 $14,208

Year 9 $9,168 $14,208

Year 10 $9,168 $14,208

Year 11 $9,168 $14,208

Year 12 $9,168 $14,208

Year 13 $9,168 $14,208

Year 14 $9,168 $14,208

Year 15 $9,168 $14,208

Year 16 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 17 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 18 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 19 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 20 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 21 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 22 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 23 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 24 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 25 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 26 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 27 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 28 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 29 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Year 30 $9,168 $0 Free & Clear

Total Paid $275,040 $213,120







Savings $61,920





Post: How Common is 30 Year Financing? And how this affects analysis..

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Originally posted by @Dwain R.:

I have become a regular listener to bigger pockets and I’m a new real estate investor. I closed on my first deal in September (Quadplex and a House) and am under contract now for an 8 unit apartment complex.  My goal was 1 unit this year and it seems as if I'm about to have 13.

It seems to me the majority of time people in the podcast are talking about analyzing deals and cash flow and their goals they are basing it on a 30 year Finance. My first question, is: Is it common to find a 30 year Finance on an investment deal? Because in my area, banks will not even consider that! And they typically need board approval to even get 20. They push you hard to go 10-15, but I have been able to secure 20 at least. So how are people finding 30 year Finance deals on investment properties?

Next question....

This also makes a MASSIVE difference when you are analyzing cash flow for properties. I constantly hear on the podcast and elsewhere things such as: take your debt service, taxes & Insurance, maintenance, vacancy, mgmt, and perhaps cap-ex and then shoot for $100 a door after that. This seems to be brought up ALOT on the podcast, but is this typically based on a 30 year Finance? Because when dealing with 15 or 20, that’s much harder to do. Doable but harder.  I just wish shorter financing terms were discussed more because this changes things....

When people talk about the 2% rule, does this change based on Finance term of the property?

It just seems like I do not hear many dealings on the podcast with 15-20 year terms. Just curious....

Thanks!

 You are a smart guy to ask the question. People who do 30 year financing are bad at math. Imagine getting a place paid off in 15 years instead of 30. The amount that goes into your pocket instead of the bank's is staggering. It's worth the pain to do 15 year instead of 30 year.