All Forum Posts by: Kyle Tom
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Post: Thinking about flipping houses in Ohio

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@Justin Gottuso, I try to walk people through the steps of investing when they are doing out of state investing for the first time. It's for sure scary but after you buy one property, you look back and go: "That wasn't too hard!" and want to do it again and again. It gets pretty addictive.
@Sara Booth, I saw you said you're from LA - I use to design part of the power grid for LADWP and lived in downtown Los Angeles for a year - I hated the traffic! No matter what time of the day I left at... 7am, 10am, 4pm, 1am, there was always traffic! I prefer Columbus Ohio! When it rains, all the freeways don't shut down... haha.
Post: Purchase 1st Primary Residence Vs. 1st Rental Duplex OUS

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Originally posted by @L. L.:
Originally posted by @Kyle Tom:
Originally posted by @L. L.:
Originally posted by @Patrick Drury:
I would recommend you buy the rental property first, then after a year or so do cash-out refinance, then buy another one. I would recommend looking towards Columbus OH instead of Cleveland the appreciation is a lot better, which is good for doing BRRRR's Vs Cleveland there isn't much appreciation at all, just cash flow.
Thanks for the reply Patrick. I was actually looking into doing the brrrr method about a year ago in cleveland. I had trouble making the numbers work for me and got discouraged. Either the ARV was too low, rehab too high or the purchase price was too high on the properties I was looking at. It seems as though there is not enough spread in Cleveland to pull off a brrrr in Cleveland. Although Im sure there are plenty of experienced people pulling it off in Cleveland. Im not as familiar with Columbus OH. Is the 1% rule achievable in Columbus? Also, do you know of any Neighborhood grading maps for Columbus that I can look into and maybe become familiar with the neighborhood?
The BRRRR method is totally possible in Cbus (That's the cool kid way of typing it)! Remember though, the 1% rule is only a rule of thumb if you should analyze a deal or not. You should still run the numbers and make sure that after all the expenses, you still see the return you are looking for.
Thanks for the info Kyle! I originally was'nt looking to purchase in Columbus but I might have to start looking into this market and change directions. If I did a BRRRR in Columbus I would have to use a Hard Money lender. I dont know how the competition is over there. I know in Cleveland there are a lot of cash purchasers that can offer way above asking. My original post was more on the lines of purchasing a duplex first or hometown condo first. I have been looking into Rental Income Offsets that lenders use to help qualify for a primary residence. If the numbers are right I could possibly use rental income to help me qualify for a condo in my home town. Then eventually turn that into a rental as well. Still looking into my options!
Not sure how far you are in your real estate journey - Do you already know how to analyze deals? What I always tell people is that if the deal is good, you can always find money.
Post: Best Areas in Cleveland, OH for Investors

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Originally posted by @Angela Blaine:
whats the best c class living area code in Ohio running into a lot of bad neighborhood
How did you even find this thread? It was originally created over 4 years ago! Wild!!
Post: Purchasing a property with unpermitted work.

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- Columbus, OH
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Originally posted by @Curt Bixel:
I am considering adding some properties to my rental portfolio. From time to time, I run across a property for sale with significant recent unpermitted work. I am curious about other's thoughts on this. I do like the peace of mind that comes with the knowledge that the work has gone through the official permitting process, as this significantly improves the odds that is was done correctly and will not be a problem later.
I am wondering if it is a good idea or a bad idea to purchase a property with significant recent unpermitted work if I can get it for enough of a discount to have all the work inspected, fixed if necessary, and perhaps retroactively permitted. I recognize that there are difficulties inspecting things that are behind drywall and the like. With plumbing, I am of the thought that I can get a pretty good feel for the quality of the work by looking at what I can see, and then fix anything that shows up later.
With electrical, I would suspect that the safest way to go would be to pull permits and do a whole house rewire, even if the wiring looks new. I suspect it might be allowed for me to reuse most of the boxes, outlets, switches, and lights, but would likely have to replace all the wire that was pulled behind walls as well as the main panel.
I am interested in feedback concerning legal aspects, insurance aspects, financial aspects, and anything else one might happen to have, and any idea for how to use the unpermitted work as a negotiating point on price.
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Post: Purchasing a property with unpermitted work.

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- Columbus, OH
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Originally posted by @Curt Bixel:
I am considering adding some properties to my rental portfolio. From time to time, I run across a property for sale with significant recent unpermitted work. I am curious about other's thoughts on this. I do like the peace of mind that comes with the knowledge that the work has gone through the official permitting process, as this significantly improves the odds that is was done correctly and will not be a problem later.
I am wondering if it is a good idea or a bad idea to purchase a property with significant recent unpermitted work if I can get it for enough of a discount to have all the work inspected, fixed if necessary, and perhaps retroactively permitted. I recognize that there are difficulties inspecting things that are behind drywall and the like. With plumbing, I am of the thought that I can get a pretty good feel for the quality of the work by looking at what I can see, and then fix anything that shows up later.
With electrical, I would suspect that the safest way to go would be to pull permits and do a whole house rewire, even if the wiring looks new. I suspect it might be allowed for me to reuse most of the boxes, outlets, switches, and lights, but would likely have to replace all the wire that was pulled behind walls as well as the main panel.
I am interested in feedback concerning legal aspects, insurance aspects, financial aspects, and anything else one might happen to have, and any idea for how to use the unpermitted work as a negotiating point on price.
From an insurance aspect, do you have a good insurance agent that you can pick their brain on if un-permitted work caused a fire, if insurance would still cover it?
Post: Inherited Tenant , current lease in place

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- Columbus, OH
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Originally posted by @Scott M.:
You need to get the Sec 8 owner/manager transfer document filled out. As part of closing you should have gotten the Sec. 8 contact info, if not, reach out to the tenant and found out what office/worker they are with. Contact that person and get the transfer documents filled out and in to them yesterday.
You need everything submitted prior to the 1st or you will be chasing the old owner for Sept. funds.
Time is of the essence here. Takes 2-3 months for us when we do this to transfer but the first check always has back rent.
2-3 months to update?! That's crazy! In Columbus, OH, it takes about 2-3 weeks to process a change.
Post: Inherited Tenant , current lease in place

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Originally posted by @Josiah Hrusch:
Hello, I inherited a tenant in a new duplex, the tenant is current sectioned 8. Their lease is in the old owners name. I had my attorney look at the lease he said the lease is good until January 2022 and that since we are the successor an interest to the landlord under the lease we don't have to change anything. Silly question though , how do we set it up so we get the rental income? Should that be a property management issue or attorney issue?
Hey @Josiah Hrusch, your property is in Columbus, OH, right? If so, we should chat. I can answer any Q's you might have. I personally have 2 S8 tenants and work with S8 a bunch.
Post: Inherited Tenant , current lease in place

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Pro tip: On your BP posts, would recommend adding city/state so that locals can help you out!
Post: Homeowners Insurance for properties in Cleveland Ohio

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- Columbus, OH
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Originally posted by @Marie Giacone:
Reaching out to all the investors in Ohio! Not currently satisfied with the homeowners insurance company I'm with right now so I've been researching alternatives. I did submit a proposal request to National Real Estate Insurance Group (BP recommended) but I definitely want to do my research before making a decision. Does anyone have recommendations?
Hi Marie,
I run a property management company in Columbus, Ohio! I've found that the majority of my clients (both in state and out of state) love using Sam Moore from Goosehead Insurance. Sam's Website << There's a reason why he has over 150 reviews that are all 5 stars!
He runs your property through a minimum of 15 different insurance carriers to find you the best rate. He's so honest, that if he thinks there's better options out there, he will tell you how it is. If you have any questions about insurance, be careful - Sam loves explaining things! He is a very people oriented person.
Post: Dover, Delaware Meetup

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- Columbus, OH
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Originally posted by @Jacob Riley:
BP family on the Delmarva Peninsula,
Would you enjoy a morning cup o' joe and socializing with people who share your passions and goals? If so, mark your calendar for a meetup on Saturday, Sep 4.
What: Informal Meetup
Where: Governor's Cafe (144 Kings Hwy SW, Dover, DE 19901)
Backup Location: Starbucks (30 N Dupont Hwy #4, Dover, DE 19901)
When: Sat, Sep 4. 0900-1100
Dress Code: Casual Wear
RSVP: Please send me a message if you plan to attend so I can give the venue an accurate head count.
COVID-19 precautions: With the uncertainty surrounding the Delta variant and in order to respect our gracious venue, please plan to bring a mask (just in case).
Come meet local investors and share each other's passions, experience, and perhaps make some life-long connections in the process. All are welcome, regardless of experience level.
I can't wait to meet all of you,
Jake
About me: I am an Air Force pilot with the desire to create long-term passive income through real estate. My partner and I are closing on our first duplex in Columbus, OH this month. I am passionate about real estate and hope to share some of my limited but valuable experience as well as learn from your experience.
Keywords: Dover, Camden, Milford, Smyrna, Middletown, Wilmington, Lewes, Rehoboth Beach
Thank you for your service!
Fly out to Columbus, Ohio so that you can meet the Reafco guys in person!