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All Forum Posts by: Gaby Liu

Gaby Liu has started 16 posts and replied 113 times.

Post: Pros/Cons of Medium-Term Rentals

Gaby LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Conner Olsen:
Quote from @Rodney Sums:
Quote from @Conner Olsen:

Here's a list of my pros and cons of medium-term rentals as compared to traditional LTR. This list is based on my own personal experience of running a monthly rental in Austin, TX.

Cons:
1. More turnover - My average stay is between 45-60 days so that means I need to constantly be looking for new guests/tenants to stay in my property. 
2. Furnishing maintenance - The host furnishes a property so you have more expenses as the furniture wears out. I've only had to replace a bedframe in the past 9 months.
3. Cost to get started - You must fully furnish a property as well as fully stock the kitchen. The host provides everything from silverware to cookie sheets to blenders.
4. Cleanings - The property needs to be cleaned between every guest. The host needs to have cleaners prepared and ready to go when a guest leaves. The host also needs to verify that the property is cleaned to their standards. I list my property on Airbnb so the guest pays the cleaning fee.
5. Awkward vacancy gaps - Every once in a while you'll get these awkward gaps of a few weeks between guests. These can add up and increase your overall vacancy for the property
6. Dealing with more tenants - You have to have more conversations with tenants than you would with a LTR. You have to be more responsive as a landlord than you typically would with a LTR. That being said, I probably message my guests 10 min per month.

Pros:
1. Higher rent - Market rent for a 2/1 is $1,600 in my area. I'm renting my property for $2,750.
2. Property is constantly cleaned - The property stays in better shape from a cleaning perspective since it's getting professionally deep cleaned every 2-3 months.
3. Less wear and tear on the structure - The owner sets up the MTR so they are the ones putting in furniture, hanging pictures etc. They have control over what is put where and the guest does not customize the space to their desire.
4. Higher paying tenants = higher quality tenants -  I have had great tenants so far. Everyone takes care of my property better than I would have expected. I believe that part of the reason is they can afford double the higher rent so they are less likely to damage a property. It has felt like all my tenants have been A class renters. *This could easily be just luck of the draw.*
5. MTR guests treat the property like their home (similar to LTR tenants) - They are living in a property for 2-3 months so they are less inclined to damage the property or make it dirty.

Overall I think MTR is a great strategy especially in expensive markets. In my opinion it is the best way to make cashflow in markets with high appreciation.

I'd love to hear everyone's experiences with MTR and whether they agree/disagree with my list!


 You referenced in dollars the higher rent with the MTR compared to LTR. How do your expenses compare in dollars? 

Th impression from the reading is your annual cash flow and ROI is higher with the MTR. Please share how well it outperforms.

Extra expenses are mostly utilities, which run about $200/month for a 2/1. I've maybe had $300 in a year for furniture replacement.
is $200 enough for all? water/gas/electricity/wifi/netflex/lawn care or snow removal , I analyze MTR deal recentlly, I try to budget $500 a month , would it too much for a 2b/1b unit in a duplex?

Post: Medium Term - Fully furnished Rental help

Gaby LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Bonnie Johnson:

Great!  Appreciate all of the help.  As for short term renting - because of the restrictions in Vegas, we have completely ruled it out. 


 Hi Bonnie,

I was wondering how your rental went as an MTR? 

I m facing a similar situation now and would like to hear about your experience in Vegas.

TIA

Gaby

Post: 20 Housing Markets Cooling the Fastest

Gaby LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Stephen DeThample:

Yes!  Numbers can look like anything, until you get specific for the exact properties you are looking for.  We look at underpriced and overpriced properties on market every day.  The underpriced property will sell for more than list price, while the overpriced property will have price reductions.  I could write an article how those underpriced homes are still going up in price (Prices are still increasing in Las Vegas!!!) and a separate article on the overpriced homes with dramatic price reductions (Prices dropped 35% in Las Vegas!!!!).


if SFH is selling fast I would sell mine, but I looked my neighborhood , the house still on the market 60 days not selling , brand new house.

Post: albany ny

Gaby LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Brendan Chetuck:

@Scott Sherin Hey scott, I'm a local investor and agent in the albany area! That could be a great location with potential for some good cashflow! Reach out if you'd like to connect and chat!

hey Brendan, I m looking for student rent by room, do you think that's doable by long distance managing?

Post: albany ny

Gaby LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Chris Vanderloo:

Check out Troy, NY area. Especially around RPI (my school). Lots of students want good, cheap housing and won’t shy away from holes in the wall or other cosmetic issues, and will rent by the bedroom. Let me know if you’d like to invest around there... looking for my first deal!


 Hi Chris, were you able to find your deal in Troy? how did it go?

Post: Rent by the Room?? Success? Fail??

Gaby LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Brandon Plombon:
Quote from @Gaby Liu:
Quote from @Brandon Plombon:

I've done this and it works very well in college towns. Yes you have more expenses with repairs for college housing but I find the revenue/room easily justifies the expenses at least in my market place.


 Hi Brandon, if I  put 5 unrelated person in 1 house , what do you advise? is it worth it ? I dont live there and remotely out of state managing.

I personally find it worth it but it fits my investment style. $500/bed is $2,500 in rent for 5 unrelated and my mortgage is $900? Run the numbers and see if it makes sense and worth it for what you are trying to accomplish.

 my key concern is out of state remotely manage them, is it possible ? because if I buy a house near college in SoCal , those 3b2b house are 800k to over million dollars and return is negative cash flow. so I m thinking of do it OOS. did you manage yours OOS?

Post: Rent room by room in Las Vegas remotely managing

Gaby LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Zeona McIntyre:

You could also furnish it and rent it 90 day min, but with its size and the min 90 days you would have to work hard to build relationships with placement agencies locally. It's doable but I'm not sure how much time you have on your hands. 


 Hi Zeona,

I agree with you , I feel the house is too big to put 5 people at one time as MTR , in your podcast you mentioned your MTR is 1b1b or 2b1b. I m going to buy your book and learn more knowledge about it.

Post: Rent room by room in Las Vegas remotely managing

Gaby LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 118
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Samuel Toma:

Gaby, don't get down on yourself because you can't rent it out by room. I'm also in CA and also invest in Vegas. I am looking at small multifamily right now but I think SFR over there are still good long term investments. Maybe its negative right now, but you raise rents by a hundred a year and in 3 years you are positive and it will likely have appreciated if you decide you want to get out. Good luck!


 Hi Samuel ,

After doing all the analysis , yes, LTR is the only way to go with my house in Vegas. I will just keep it . hopefully appreciate in few years.

are you looking for Multi in Vegas?

Gaby