All Forum Posts by: Mark Doty
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Post: Value Add: Duplex conversion to Triplex

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@Jessica Muto , @Bill Goodland
No pics on it quite yet...And I pressed enter before I was quite ready to post the original message so sorry that it’s vague...
I'm in the process on permits for the additional unit and baths. The project is a JV with another investor in town. We expect the whole project to be close to 6 months. We'll need a plumber on one of the baths...PM me if you'd like to quote.
The financing is 15% down with interest only that will convert to a 30 year fixed if we totally screw it up. The plan is to refinance upon rehab completion when it should have positive cash flow. It's designed to be either a BRRRR or flip. Depends on the ARV and the market in June.
I’ll update this with a more thorough case study in the coming weeks...thanks for the interest!
Post: Value Add: Duplex conversion to Triplex

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Investment Info:
Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in San Diego.
Value add multifamily property in central San Diego. We are converting a duplex into a permitted triplex and doing a complete remodel to add bathrooms, bedrooms, laundry and several other upgrades to the existing footprint.
You mentioned a meetup that connects private money with investors. Is it the one hosted by Darrell Kucan and the San Diego Investment Club? It looks like that one is now at the Pyramid off Miramar.
Post: San Diego Duplex to Triplex

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- San Diego
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Hello all,
I'm in contract on a duplex in San Diego and have a question for the community about turning it into a triplex, rather than a adding an ADU. I had an architect tell me today that because of fire codes in the city, they will not permit a 3rd unit the front door rear facing. For local investors, @Justin R., @Dan H., @Colin L., etc. Does that sound correct? I've gotten several opinions on this property but today is the first I have heard that the units have to be facing the street to be permitted. Does that sound correct?
The property is zoned RM1-1 and has 10K sq ft, which allows for a 3rd unit in addition to the existing duplex. It also has enough space to fulfill the parking requirements of 7 spots.
Thoughts or feedback would be appreciated!
Post: Choice of market for a beginner

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- San Diego
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@Dan H. see previous...
Post: Choice of market for a beginner

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Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Best market for you to BRRRR is San Diego area? Why?
- First rehabs are difficult enough without being OOS. I could not imagine doing my first rehab OOS.
- You can leverage your local knowledge of submarkets.
- If you are BRRRR your goal is to extract out all or virtually all of your investment so the cost of the property is mostly irrelevant as long as you can obtain the financing and achieve the goal of being able to extract virtually all of your investment.
- None of the markets that you listed above have the historical ROI of San Diego. Around 50% of my purchases have infinite ROI because I was able to extract 100% of my investment. A couple other of my properties came close to having full investment extracted, one failed only because it got an absurd low refinance appraisal. I have one property that if I were to refinance I would easily get all of my investment back out but the terms on current loan are too good for me to desire to refinance. Even without addressing how easy it can be to extract all of your investment, San Diego ROI has historically been outstanding due to outstanding rent and property appreciation.
- No rent control. The Core Logic list of cities by ROI this century has San Diego #3 but San Diego is the only city in the top 3 that does not currently have rent control. It bodes well for San Diego to perform better than #1 (San Francisco) and #2 (Los Angeles) going forward.
I would be real leery of trying a remote BRRRR prior to having experience in the remote city and a trusted team.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
@Dan H. these are the posts that make me want to connect with you sometime. I feel like it’s expensive here because it’s worth it!
Post: Insurance: what to learn/read for small apartments?

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Thanks for the responses...both of your answers were what I was looking information around! Thanks!
Post: Insurance: what to learn/read for small apartments?

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@Bjorn Ahlblad, @Alina Trigub, @Pancham G., @Jose Linares, @Dan H.
Thanks for the responses and advice...much appreciated!
Post: Insurance: what to learn/read for small apartments?

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Hey BP community,
As I’m learning to purchase and own apartments, where should the topic of insurance be in the pecking order? If I’m looking for a 4 plex (residential) or 6-plex (commercial) apartment building, what should I start to figure out in terms of insurance? What are the key things to look for and pitfalls to avoid?
Are there good books to read that provide an overview?
Comments and feedback appreciated!
Post: Commercial Investing Without Syndication

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- San Diego
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nice thread guys! Really nice to hear some of these stories!
@Account Closed when you said you used a solo 401k, do you mean you literally cashed out your 401k and paid the penalty then used the cash as the down payment or that you bought the property through the 401k?