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All Forum Posts by: Michael Ealy

Michael Ealy has started 68 posts and replied 1506 times.

Post: Getting started with Apartment syndication

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Kristopher Raepple:

Hello,

I have been doing a combination of house flipping, wholesaling and building a small portfolio of 40 rental units over the last 7 years. Currently doing about 8-10 flips a year with a 4 man crew and self managing my rental units.

I am looking to move into larger multi family properties through syndication. Does anyone have any guidance or recommendations for someone with real estate experience looking to get going with syndications?

Also, is there any recommended coaching programs or potential mentors that would be worth recommending to help prevent as many beginner mistakes as possible?

Thanks in advance for any input and advice. Happy investing!

 Kristopher,

You are smart in wanting to get a coaching/mentoring program to ensure you don't commit costly mistakes. 

One alternative to mentoring/coaching is partnering with experienced apartment syndicators. You provide value to them by having you look for deals or help them raise capital. In exchange, you learn how a deal is analyzed, put together and you learn/get the legal/SEC documentation you need to put a syndicated deal together.

1-on-1 coaching is very time consuming and frankly for experienced apartment syndicators like me (I own 1,000 apartment units), the only way I can structure it to make it worth my time is by actually doing deals together. Below are the kind of deals that I do and things I've learned:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/432/topics/753858-brrr-actual-deal-2m-profit-or-15k-mo-cashflow-with-pictures

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/644570-how-i-made-over-1-million-on-1-deal-after-6-years-of-headaches

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/432/topics/765918-whats-your-most-successful-apartment-deal-ever

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/52/topics/802703-41-units-no-money-down-deal-627k-profit-in-15-months-how



Post: How do you find owners that own their property outright?🥺

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Jon Guy:

@Michael Ealy county record or mortgages? Not sure what you mean by that. 

 Mortgages are recorded by county recorders office.

Here's an example - Montgomery county in Ohio:

FAQ - 

https://www.mcohio.org/government/elected_officials/recorder/faq_s.php

Actual database you can search -

http://public.mcrecorder.org/external/User/Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fexternal

Post: How do you find owners that own their property outright?🥺

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Jon Guy:

Looking for a best case scenario to find an owner financing opportunity. 

 Jon,

I'm pretty sure you can buy a list of property owners with $0 mortgage. Google "list brokers" and call a few of them to explain what you're looking for.

If you have no budget for it but have the time, you can cross check the list of properties you're interested in with county record of mortgages. It's time consuming work but you can find properties with $0 mortgages that way.

Post: Should I stay away from Loop net?

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Nik S.:

@Dominique Mitchell

I check loopnet daily. I’ve bought a few properties that were listed on the site. You’d be surprised what you can find. The good ones go fast and even faster in this market!

 I agree with Nik.

When I was starting out, I got my best deals from Loopnet. Now, I get about 1 good deal a year because most of my deals come from brokers who forward the deals to me before they even list them on Loopnet.

And talking about brokers...

Loopnet is a good place to meet brokers. The property they listed on Loopnet might not be good for you but you can contact them and get a feel on how open the seller is on a price significantly lower than asking. Obviously, this will work better for properties that have been on the market for a while. If they're open, submit an LOI. Regardless, tell the broker what you're looking for and meet them and treat them to lunch or coffee and start building relationships.

Bottomline, Loopnet can be a good source of deals and definitely, it's a way for you to meet commercial real estate brokers.

Post: FREE Training Video - How to Acquire Properties No Money Down

Michael EalyPosted
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Here's a FREE video training on how to acquire properties with No Money Down:

NassauInvests.com/nodown

Nothing for sale. Just training for you.

Post: Is it bad to focus on only getting a 3-4 unit for your first?

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Bradley Lemen:

I have been pre-approved to get a home and I have seen a few places and also put an offer on 1 but it didn't go as planned. I have mainly been focusing on duplexs but my area doesn't have them on the market as often. So I have branched out into the bigger cities near me and found some triplexs and quadplexs! "Personally I don't want to invest in another state yet mainly because I'm learning and also have a life long goal on rebuilding my small town". After running the numbers and seeing the amount of cash flow I would make from a tri or quad it has made me not even want to look at duplexs anymore... Is it bad to only focus on a 4 unit or maybe a 3? I want to house hack for my first ever property and SFH doesn't even seem like a good idea for me and duplexs are covering my mortgage and maybe a small profit but triplexs and quads are seriously almost bringing close to what I make at my W2 job. I'm afraid I'm going to be waiting too long until I get myself a property to make some money from but I also want to have a good cash flow from my first property as well. This has kinda been stressing me out and I just feel asking here would help me figure out what would be best!

Do you guys think it's okay to wait for a tri or quadplex in my area? Or would it be smarter to try and get into something sooner rather than later? 

 Bradley,

I doubt it if 3-4 units will pay you close to what you make on your job. You probably have not calculated the cashflow correctly.

Cashflow is not equal to Rent minus the mortgage payment.

Most newbies make that mistake.

You can also rent by the room or do AirBnb so houses or duplexes might still work.

Duplexes is where I started - I rent out one unit and I even have a roommate on the other.

Twenty years later and I now own 1,000 apartment units.

Post: New to multifamily and syndication investments

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Originally posted by @Arnel Bueno:

Like some members in this forum I'm also new to investing in multi-family rentals but I've been educating myself about it for the past couple of months. I'm a little late coming(hopefully retiring in about 5 years) in to this field but I think I have enough resources to (cautiously) dive in and get my feet wet. With my primary residence free and clear and using the equity on it with an average 830 credit score our local credit union estimated that I can qualify up to mid 200k on a heloc. I am mostly invested in index funds on my retirement and non retirement accounts and have had tremendous gains past few years but the uncertainty has always been a concern. From what I've read so far investing in 5-plus unit apartments would make more sense and may provide better ROI than single family assuming good cap rates and cash flow. Not sure if I can find potential investment here in Colorado Springs area since the market here seems to be peaking at the moment. I've also looked at some RE syndication companies offering attractive IRR with some tax benefits. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in this community with a similar situation and experience and would like to know what you think. Thanks and I appreciate your comments.

 Arnel,

Multi family is the way to go.

You have multiple tenants paying down your mortgage and giving you money every month.

Since it has multiple tenants, you can afford to hire a property manager to manage it for you so you will have more time to buy more buildings.

The key is finding the right deal and knowing how to underwrite it.

If you need help let me know.

Post: I want to invest in multifamily apartment buildings?

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Bellman Tumasang:

I want to invest in multifamily apartment buildings how do I research markets to find a market where there is job growth, migration etc?

Let's say an apartment building with multiple units has cashflow can I put down a downpayment, finance the rest as a non recourse and interest only loan with no personal guarantee needed as long as the DSCR is good like 1.25 or above even if it's my first property and I don't make a lot? Could I close this loan in a property LLC with just the property?

Steps for getting a commercial loan?

 You will need to personally guarantee a loan - especially if it's your first deal - and I am assuming, you're not in a position to buy a 100+ unit apartment complex.

I own 1,000 apartment units and the way it works is that I acquire a building and qualify for a mortgage (with recourse). I stabilize it and only after I refinance at 70% LTV or lower do I get a non-recourse loan. And it's easier too wth 100+ unit apartment complex vs buying a 10 unit.

Post: Multi family as a first time investment ?

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Stephanie Sicard:

I'm getting ready to buy my first rental property within the next 2-3 months . I have 13k saved up and I intend to use an FHA loan.

The multi family properties in my area are about 300,000+ for a 2/1 duplex . I found a realtor and he advised that it would not be safe to get a multi family just yet . He said having only 13k would be spreading myself too thin because things could break right after I buy and it could be difficult if both stoves broke for example .

He advised that I should start off with a condo that was 115,000 in a 55+ community , which I could rent for 1600 and get a feel of land -lording . If something broke , it would not be as expensive versus if something broke in both units of a duplex . He thinks I should get a few properties under my built before I buy a multi family .

My original dream and strategy was to get a multi family as my first investment . But I also am aware that if a strategy can’t work for the moment , another strategy can . I feel a little unsure on what step to take . What do you guys think ?

Thanks for all the advice in advance .

I agree with your real estate agent that $13K is not enough cash for a $300K duplex.

Unless you're doing house hacking - live in one unit and rent out the other, investment properties will require 20% downpayment - which is $60K. In addition to the downpayment, the bank will require you have some cash left over - usually 6 months of mortgage payments set aside (this is part of their liquidity requirements).

Let's say you need $1500/mo of mortgage payments, you need $69K for a $300K duplex that does not need any work or deferred maintenance.

So your options are:

1. Buy a cheaper property

2. Save up or earn $69K first

3. Learn how to acquire properties with no money down - send me a PM and I will send you a training video about that topic

Post: 41-Units No Money Down Deal $627K Profit in 15 Months - How?

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Brad Stegall:

@Michael Ealy

Way to go and thank you for sharing. I am working on a 28 unit deal where the owner is willing to do a 20% carry back. Any suggestions on how to get a bank to let me close w zero money down using the carry back? This is a first for me.

 Usually the bank will require you have some money in the deal. One thing you can do is ask for buyer's credit at closing. In this 41 unit building, we gave the buyer $100,000 in credit. This reduces the cash he needed to bring to closing.

Moreover, if the building needs repairs, you can also negotiate a deferred maintenance credit to further reduce your cash to close.

Hope this helps