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All Forum Posts by: Mitch Larrivee

Mitch Larrivee has started 6 posts and replied 42 times.

Post: First Attempt to BRRR

Mitch LarriveePosted
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 32
Quote from @Lisa Cox:
Quote from @Mitch Larrivee:

Following this.. thanks for posting! Would love to hear updates as you go through the full BRRRR process.

I'm curious if you have talked to any contractors yet or you have and they don't want to give estimates? 

Good luck!


 I'm stepping way out of the box. I should probably just flip this house since it's my first but I'm even nervous about figuring all that out. I haven't been turned down by contractors. I just don't know of any so I am in the process of researching and vetting now.


 That's great. Talking to them will help. The good ones always seem to be a wealth of knowledge. I have only done renovation projects while living in the home and then sell after a few years. 

Late last year bought a few rentals with tenants already in them. All I can really say is I am 100% going to buy cheaper and rehab all the units next time. I've been hit with a constant stream of repairs on the duplexes I bought. Definitely negative cash flow on it.. So the way I look at BRRRR is I'm just looking at it as buying a rental but giving myself the chance to (1) buy cheap (2) fix everything so there are no unexpected costs and then (3) now that I have a beautiful, newly maintained property I can refi some cash out.

That said, I have not done a BRRRR yet so I'm right there with you on some of the nuisances. But I hope this helps calm the jitters a bit. BRRRR definitely is the smart way to go.

Post: Networking with hedge funds

Mitch LarriveePosted
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 32

Not an answer to your question, but man am I curious how you networked with hedge funds to begin with!

Post: Any positive reviews on paid coaches?

Mitch LarriveePosted
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 32

Have any of you paid for a program or a coach that you would recommend?

First off let me tell you about the coaching for realtors. My wife is a full-time agent and joined Mike Ferry's coaching program. It is incredible the level of support and training. It's mind-blowing how many people are committed to that program and are selling over 100 homes a year. Watching this happen and what it's doing for her career in a matter of months is making me jealous lol. 

I started looking for something similar in the investing (particularly BRRRR or rehabbing). Everywhere I look it seems like it's just another turd guru. I've been to the local investing groups and it's mostly inactive people. Makes sense, if you're busy making money you probably aren't going to many meetings.

So, I'm curious, have any of you paid for a program or a coach that you would recommend? Please only respond if you have actually paid for a program of some kind.

Post: First Attempt to BRRR

Mitch LarriveePosted
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 32

Following this.. thanks for posting! Would love to hear updates as you go through the full BRRRR process.

I'm curious if you have talked to any contractors yet or you have and they don't want to give estimates? 

Good luck!

Post: Want to BRRRR first property local - Bay Area possible?

Mitch LarriveePosted
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 32
Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Ruchit Patel:

Just my two cents:

I have understood that only experienced and big players are able to do BRRRR in the bay area anymore.

Now there is a trend of investing out of state for bay area investors. 


 I do not underneath this sentiment.  Material costs are about the same everywhere.  Labor may be more expensive in the bay area than other areas, but not compared to the RE price compared to other areas.  This implies that the value added compared to cost in he Bay Area should be outstanding.  

A successful BRRRR should trap little to no money in the RE. This implies that a successful BRRRR in the bay area could result in owning a high value asset for little to no money.

The San Diego market (my market) is expensive, but relatively cheap compared to the Bay Area.  We have done almost exclusively value add purchases and typically extract all of our investment. 

It is my view the Bay Area is likely a good/great location to do BRRRR for those investors that know how to perform a successful BRRRR

Good luck  


 100% agree with this! The process is the same, just at a higher price point. It might be harder to save up for the $ down plus a little cushion. 

Another advantage is equity building. Would you rather have 10% equity growth on $100k or $1M?

Post: New member to BP, hello!

Mitch LarriveePosted
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 32

Hi! Welcome :) 

Quote from @Suzanne Player:

@Mitch Larrivee Would you say there's been a lot of new construction going on in the residential areas of Orlando?


 Yes! Tons of it. For the past year or two new developments would sell out before breaking ground and had 100+ people on their waiting lists. That has now slowed down, but new projects are continuing to launch. Most of this is happening in outskirt areas like Clermont, Kissimmee, Lake Nona, etc. 

Quote from @James Dainard:

Hey Mitch,

In terms of leverage you're going to do the best with an owner-occupied loan if you can get it.

Some of our clients will end up getting a conventional loan on their property if they're planning to keep it as a rental then quit claim title into an LLC later on down the line. Check with your lender to make sure this doesn't trigger a due on sale clause for your loan. That tends to be the happy middle ground if you can get all of your bases covered.

Best of luck!

Thanks, makes sense. Do people normally hold the property under their personal name during the renovation period as well? I imagine this would avoid any hiccups/confusion with underwriting. I can only imagine the number of questions coming through if my LLC transferred ownership to me and a week later I'm trying to cash-out refi.

Also, that'd be a lot of title transfers.. LLC for initial purchase & renovation > personal for loan > back to LLC for holding.

Tier it. 

Put yourself in their shoes. They likely don't have that much extra cash every month right now, so a jump like that and they'll start looking for something else, or worse they'll become terrible tenants. You're better off letting them know you need to increase to market rent but you'll gradually increase it. It will give them time to prepare. How much and how often is up to you, but you should be fair here. 

Looking at protecting myself as much as possible, I want to buy (hard money most likely) with an LLC. When you go to refi out, do you normally xfer ownership to your name so you can get a conv. loan? Or do you normally look at other methods, like commercial loans, that allow for a business to own?

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