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All Forum Posts by: Phil Christian

Phil Christian has started 3 posts and replied 99 times.

Post: What's the typical commission/finder's fee for bringing a buyer?

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65

Make it a Development Fee on the closing statement and yes pay the person if they bring you a deal and you get it over the goal line... 

Post: Buyers Broker vs Listing Broker

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65

If you are in Cerritos and referring to SoCal multi family brokers there is no such thing as "buyers brokers".  Those are brokers who either don't have listings, new to the business or just telling you this in hopes that they can write a few offers on your behalf.  What I'm getting at is the top multi family brokers in SoCal are all listing teams and more often than not they do not represent buyers unless they have a relationship. 

Are you comfortable underwriting deals on your own?  Do you know the market you want to buy in?  Are you going to get cold feet during the due diligence process?  Would you feel more comfortable with someone riding shotgun with you?  There is a lot of benefit with building a relationship with a broker that you are comfortable with representing you.  This said, just know, that they are not going to be the top brokers and there is a slim chance that they are relatively knew the the business.  This will not always be a bad thing.... they could be hungry and excel at representing your needs. 

So, being new, by default you are going to have to play the field with all brokers until you buy a deal or two and your relationships and processes starts to mature. 

If you want more insight on SoCal brokers, pm me. 

Post: Business Owners "rent-hacking" commercial property?

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65

Couple things to consider... 

As a business owner you are in the business of a business.... whether it's selling, manufacturing, producing, servicing, non-profiting, analysising... whatever sector you are in you are probably not in the business of owning real estate. 

First: So consider your internal hurdle rate. If you have 20% profit margins on every dollar you invest into your business is that $1 going to a better use investing in your business or receiving a smaller return in real estate. For simplicity sake, use the down payment required to buy a building as your initial investment which assumes you are paying rent to a landlord elsewhere. 

Second: Which follows after the first... are you using company money or personal money.... meaning are you buying personally (perhaps with a single purpose LLC) in your name and your business is renting back space? This assumes that you are not dipping into company money because your company is healthy and your personal balance sheet is healthy and you need a tax shelter or want to diversify your personal assets.

Third: Do you have monuments with your company in your current space that you need to protect against the unknown market conditions? Monuments = heavy machinery that cannot be moved easily. e.g., Raytheons Tomahawk missiles facility or a restaurant in a particular location that fits your needs. In essence, can you replicate your current setup within a years time with tolerable business interruption or setup capital expense. 

Obviously, that's not all of it... but If you can answer those questions then you are in a position to make an informed decision. 

Post: Commercial Real Estate Deal Pipeline

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65

Become friends with the local brokerage community with local market knowledge in the area you want to buy specializing in the product you want to buy. 

Post: Pricing when lease option *decreases* for commercial RE

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65

You're not giving enough information to answer the question.  Post: 

1. The NNN rent schedule on the remaining years of the term (first 3 years)

2. Asking price

3. Option terms and the nnn rent schedule it those terms. 

Then maybe we can answer.  At the end of the day you are probably going to want to value the asset on the first option term rent. 

Post: JV Partnership with a 1031 for MultiFamily

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65
Originally posted by @Marjeanne Fields:

@Dave Foster Thank you for the reply. I THINK that is what our attorney found as a solution as well. Any specific issues that we need to look for, or I's that need to be dotted and T's that need to be crossed that other people screw up? Any and all suggestions are welcomed and appreciated. 

Just remember that if you form a TIC structure your 1031 investor will have signing authority relative to the loan and title. If you do not trust them, or they are green, as real estate operators it can get sticky getting on the same page making decisions.

Post: Discount proposed rate for a 10 yr lease over a 5 yr

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65
Originally posted by @Ben S.:

 I am working with a broker who I trust.  

 Perfect... good luck on this deal!

Post: Discount proposed rate for a 10 yr lease over a 5 yr

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65
Originally posted by @Ben S.:

@Phil Christian So I am learning a lot of new terms here.  If I lay out different options like you are proposing and calculate the net effective rate for each of them should the 3 proposals for 3 term lengths be equal?  If they "should" be getting a better deal for 10 years, the question is how much?  I appreciate the information, I am new to this.

Not necessarily but yes you could structure all three (3) to have the same effective rate.  It's NOT necessary but it is a good starting point in your RFP and it will make perfect sense to the tenant.  

Candidly, you're shooting in the dark here and now trying to negotiate a deal without brokerage and subsequently local market knowledge support. The mental backflips you are going through right now is the reason why commercial real estate brokers earn their fee. 

Post: Are PSA Guarantees Safe?

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65

I don't want to sound rude but you keep posting questions related to this deal and it sounds like you are in way over your ski's.... You are only giving little nuggets of information about the deal structure and candidly it doesn't sound like you are focused on the actual deal structure itself. 

From what I have gathered... you are trying to by a building that is currently under construction.  The scheduled construction completion date is April 2019.  Are you buying a vacant building or a building with a tenant in tow?  If with a tenant in tow, when is the tenants lease start date and what is the trigger for that particular lease commencement.  Generally speaking, the lease commencement is the Certificate of Occupancy (but it could be structured differently). 

If no tenant in tow, you are buying a building under construction (partially built). 

Is there a CUP in place to allow a fitness center? Is a fitness center permitted by the zoning? 

What exactly are you buying? Do you have a set of the construction docs? It sounds like you are expecting the Seller to sell the building partially built and then they will stay on as the developer? What incentive do they have to complete the project by April 2019 if you have already closed on the project? Who is the General Contractor? The GC's contract most likely states that their scope is finished once a certificate of occupancy is issued. 

The Seller doesn't really control the Certificate of Occupancy, the city does.  The certificate of occupancy is issued by the City and states that all conditions of occupancy have been met (building, permitting, fire, etc).  

The way I'm reading your question, to me, you are putting the cart before the horse here and are concerned if the Seller is going to mail/email you a certificate of occupancy... which the city would have on file anyways.  More importantly who is responsible to do all the work and under what structure all the way up to the final permits being completed?

Post: Multi-family purchasing and operating checklist

Phil ChristianPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Yorba Linda, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 65

An operational checklist is sort of difficult to make because it is specific to YOUR business plan on that specific deal.. that said, here's a good start for a DD through property set up checklist. 

I. ACQUISITION DOCUMENTS
Underwriting
Letter of Intent
Market Analysis
DD Budget
Initial Construction Budget
Construction Schedule
Purchase and Sale Agreement
Critical Dates
Deposits Hard
Scheduled Closing
Deposits: GP
Deposits: LP
II. FINANCIAL AND OPERATING
Historical Operating Statements un-interrupted from date ownership began to Closing from Project and Association most recent 2 years
Current and Historical Tax Bills (3 yrs.)
Rent Roll
Insurance - Property, Association and Tenants.
III. MAINTENANCE
Vendor Contracts Review
Current Property Management Agreement
Laundry Leases
Security Service Reports
Elevator Certificates
Utility bills for each meter and each service - including acct. no.
IV. LEGAL
Preliminary Title Report
Underlying Title Documents
Summary of Pending or Active Legal Issues
Parcel Map/Site Plan/Elevations
All CC&R Documents
ALTA Survey - Historical & UPDATED. Include Hard Parking Count
V. PHYSICAL
Phase I - Historical & UPDATED
Zoning Compliance Report - Parking, use, zoning, physical structure, City Compliance Letter. CURRENT
Property Condition Report - Historical & UPDATED.
Roof Survey - Historical & UPDATED
Structural Report -PML/Seismic. Historical & UPDATED
Floor Plans
Seismic Retrofit
Parking Plan
Personal Property Inventory
Landscape Architect
Exterior Design Book
VI. LOAN
Lender Selection
Lender Documents
Co-Investment Accounts
Property Budget
VII. OTHER
Partnership Documents
Org Chart
LLC's and Entity Documents, SPE etc..
Partnership EIN
Property Insurance Set Up
Property Management Agreement
Bank Account Set Up
Property Ownership Transition
YARDI, RESIDENT LEASE FILES & GOOGLE DRIVE SET UP
Lease Agreements and Rent Increase Audits
Resident(s) Contact Worksheet
Current Rent Roll Audit
Garage/Parking Space Assignment per Resident Audit
Google Drive Set up
Utilities Folder(s)
Service Contracts Folder(s)
Floor Plans & Site Maps Folder(s)
Etc.
DAY OF CLOSING
Pick Up Keys
Pick Up Hard Copies of Lease Documents
Pick Up Personal Property (as-needed)
BUSINESS PLAN
Market Lease Rates
Garage / Parking Lease Rates
Operating Budget
Distribute Entity EIN #
UTILITY TRANSFER/SET UP
Electrical
Electrical - SCE Auto/Clean and Show
Gas
Water
Sewer
Trash
Telecom
SERVICE CONTRACT SET UP
Landscaping
Laundry Facility Service (DO NOT EXTEND CONTRACT - SIMPLY REQUEST NEW FORWARDING ADDRESS)
Pest Control
Janitoiral
Pool Cleaning
Fire Equipment (Extinguishers, Alarm Box, etc)
Elevator Service Contract
Courtesy Patrol
Water Servicer Vendor
RESIDENT RELATIONS
Notice of Change of Ownship / Management
Change of terms: RUBS, Pet Addendum, NSF, Late Fees, Removal of HVAC from Windows
Distribution of New Resident Keys (Laundry, Gate, Pool, etc)
MAINTENANCE & OPERATIONS
Change all Locks/Keys {Gates, Utilities & Laundry -- Standard Key}, {Office & Shop -- Special Key}
Maintenance Shop
Tool Audit
Trash Out
Storage Room & Janitorial Rooms
Tool Audit
Trash Out
Create Building Systems Project Manual
Water Main Locations
Building Water Shut Off Valve Locations
Water Heater / Boiler Specifications & Locations
Site Lighting Timer or Photosensors Locations
Pool Equipment & Timer Locations
Gas Main Locations
Electrical Panel/Switch Locations
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