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All Forum Posts by: Peter Walther

Peter Walther has started 32 posts and replied 1593 times.

Post: ROI expected by purchaser of a PMM

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Quote from @Patrick Roberts:

There are a few variables that will impact where a note trades, seasoning being one of them. Some general guidelines:

- yield for the note-buyer at purchase will likely be 8%+; most are looking for 9-15%

- min 10% borrower downpayment if owner-occupied, 15%+ for non-owner occupied

- very few will buy the loan above 75% ITV (note purchase price/fmv); ITV plays a big role in general

- the more seasoning, the better; 6-12 months minimum is ideal (some will accept less in light of a strong overall profile) 

- if owner-occupied, then make sure the note is compliant; use an RMLO if possible

- other variables, like the borrower credit risk, collateral profile, and quality of the paper/structure will be more important with low/no seasoning

- use a licensed servicer for servicing


 Thanks for the advice Patrick, it gave me a lot to consider.

Post: ROI expected by purchaser of a PMM

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Quote from @Minh Duong:

In my experience with PMM, a general seasoning (or prepayment penalty period) will vary based on the interest rate (ROI) you charge for financing as a seller.
If you want a long prepayment penalty period, like 3-5 years, then the interest rate you charge them has to be lower to match or compete with other financing methods on the market. Based on my experience, that interest rate will be somewhere 7-9% depending on the borrowers' profile. 

If you want a short prepayment penalty period, like 1-3 years, then the interest rate going to be more (10-12%) so you can get the ROI you want. 

Now, if there's a balloon in place (let's say in 5 or 10 years), then your interest rate has to be lower since that's a benefit for you as a lender and a risk factor for the borrowers.


Thanks for responding Minh, by seasoning I was referring to number of months of on time payments by the borrower to make the loan saleable on the secondary market.

Post: ROI expected by purchaser of a PMM

Peter WaltherPosted
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I'm selling a home in Sanford, FL and am thinking about offering seller financing. If I do, and then want to sell the mortgage, how much seasoning does a purchaser generally demand and how much ROI do they look for?

Post: Advice on Specific Performance for Breach of Real Estate Contract

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Quote from @Ryan S.:

Just wanted to share the final outcome. I ended up having to retain legal counsel, and my attorney spoke directly with the seller’s attorney, making it clear that the seller had no legal way out and that I was prepared to sue for specific performance. Fortunately, the seller came to his senses and accepted that he was obligated to close. We officially closed on Friday.

It was a nerve-wracking transaction, but I made it to the finish line. Thank you to everyone who offered advice and support along the way—much appreciated!

Congratulations

Post: How to change title using your personal name to LLC?

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Quote from @Stetson Oates:

If you have title insurance, once you move the title to the LLC your policy won't follow. If this is important, have the title company re-issue a policy.


The definition of Insured in an Owner's title policy may include an LLC owned just by the named insured(s) in the current policy. The OP needs to check his policy if he has one. In my experience a title insurer generally will not "re-issue" a policy, though an uninformed agent may do so inadvertently. If there are changes to be made to a policy, an endorsement may be issued.

Post: How Will This Lawsuit Turn Out?

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Peter Walther:

While this analysis of a recent bankruptcy court decision in isn't directly on point it does discuss some uninformed decision making when dealing with distressed loans.  

Bankruptcy Court Denies Stay Relief Thereby Preventing Enforcement of Deed in Escrow Transaction | Insights | Mayer Brown

In re DJK Enterprises, LLC, No. 24-60126 (Bankr. S.D. Ill. Feb. 13, 2025)


 just messaged you the case


 Thanks

Post: How Will This Lawsuit Turn Out?

Peter WaltherPosted
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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Peter Walther:

While this analysis of a recent bankruptcy court decision in isn't directly on point it does discuss some uninformed decision making when dealing with distressed loans.  

Bankruptcy Court Denies Stay Relief Thereby Preventing Enforcement of Deed in Escrow Transaction | Insights | Mayer Brown

In re DJK Enterprises, LLC, No. 24-60126 (Bankr. S.D. Ill. Feb. 13, 2025)


 I have been told by every attorney worth their weight that getting a deed in lieu prior to a default to be put in escrow will never hold up in court - and in this instance - this proves it.

I see people doing this all the time - many times when the borrower defaults they just walk away anyways, but with home appreciation the last few years and borrowers now fighting for that equity - they are not going to be going away easily and if you think having this in your back pocket is the answer - you are wrong.


I've also advised people that in general, they won't be able to get a title policy issued on a title with a deed dated prior to a default in the chain.  Most of the recorded DILs taken prior to default I've seen also have minimum doc stamps on them evidencing a no consideration conveyance.  Another potential problem.

Post: How Will This Lawsuit Turn Out?

Peter WaltherPosted
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The allegations in the complaint would be interesting to read so if you'd give me the case file no. I'd like to take a look at it.  If it alleges the lender knew about Smith's claimed interest the insurer may deny coverage or it may provide coverage under a reservation of rights which means while the insurer provides a defense, if the court intimately finds the lenders interest is subordinate to Smiths for a reason excluded from coverage under the policy there is no loss recoverable.

As to the outcome of the dispute between Smith and Doe, that also depends on the facts of the case.

Post: Foreclosure with Redemption Period

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Quote from @Fernando Alonso:

Hi Peter,

Actually, there was a mortgage with a $60k balance on the property, but I was aware of it and factored it into my bid. Between paying off the mortgage, the auction bid, and some other costs, my total outlay was around $200k for a property valued at about $260k, which I now have rented at $2,400/month.

As for the Clerk’s explanation, there really wasn’t one. When I didn’t get any response from them, I went down to the courthouse myself. Out of about 25 desks, not a single clerk was there; apparently, everyone was working from “home office.” The only person on site, the receptionist, simply acknowledged it was a clear mistake by the attorney, judge, and clerk. To resolve it, I had to file a court claim, which cost me another $2,000 in attorney fees. Just another example of the real costs of government inefficiency.


 Sounds like a profitable investment, congratulations.

Post: Foreclosure with Redemption Period

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Quote from @Fernando Alonso:
Quote from @Peter Walther:
Quote from @Fernando Alonso:
Quote from @Peter Walther:
Quote from @Fernando Alonso:

Hi Isaiah,

Great question.

First off, it’s important to keep in mind that each state has its own foreclosure laws, and even within the same state, local procedures and timelines can vary depending on the county or the type of foreclosure (judicial, non-judicial, or tax-related).

Foreclosure investing can be a great niche, high returns and low risk if you conduct proper due diligence and understand the legal framework. But to do it successfully, it’s essential to focus on a specific market, study its behavior over time, and become familiar with its unique legal and operational processes. That’s how you reduce surprises.

As for redemption periods, yes, states like Iowa or Alabama have relatively long redemption periods, sometimes several years. During this time, the previous owner can redeem the property by repaying what you paid at auction (plus interest, fees, and sometimes penalties), meaning you wouldn’t receive full title or possession rights until the period expires.

By contrast, in a state like Florida, where I specialize, the redemption period after a foreclosure auction is only 10 days. Once those 10 days pass, the court issues a Certificate of Title, and the property is legally yours, free and clear of that redemption risk.

Hope this helps. 


If I'm not mistaken, F.S 45.0315 provides that the right of redemption in Florida runs through the issuance of the Certificate of Sale (CS), not the Certificate of Title (CT).  F.S. 45.031(4) provides that after the sale the Clerk shall promptly issue the CS, which in my experience is generally the same day as the sale and at that point the mortgagor's and subordinate lien holder's, right of redemption is extinguished.  F.S. 45.031(5) provides that if no objections to the sale are filed within 10 days after the filing of the CS the Clerk shall issue the CT.  Of course, anyone filing an objection has to provide the Court with a valid basis for the objection.

Indeed, Peter, that’s correct. Just a quick note from my experience in Florida:

  1. While Florida Statutes apply statewide, not all counties follow the process to the letter. In busy counties like Miami-Dade, Broward, or Hillsborough, I’ve seen Certificates of Sale issued 3 days after the auction, and Certificates of Title delayed 4 days beyond the standard 10-day period. This can create tricky situations—especially if a redemption challenge comes up after the 10-day window (Where you are then undisputable legal owner) but before the title is issued.

  2. You’re also right that objections require a valid legal basis. However, if someone files for redemption, the issuance of the title is automatically put on hold until the court resolves the matter. In some counties, this can mean unexpected delays and additional legal fees before you get access to the property.

But as the market assures, a thorough due diligence avoids or lower the risks of these situations... Hope it helps!



As I wrote Fernando, F.S. 45.031(4) requires the Clerk to "promptly" file the CS so it appears there may be some discretion there, though I've never seen a Florida Clerck issue it later.  However, F.S. 45.031(5) provides that 10 days after the CS is issued the Clerk "shall" issue the CT so there's no discretion.  If you could give me one or two Case No's where you've seen it happen, I'd like to look at them and see how it turned out.  Thanks in advance.




Hi Peter,


Absolutely, I can share a real-world example. Take a look at Miami-Dade Case 2015-011157-CA-01: in this case, the Certificate of Sale was issued two days after the auction, and the Certificate of Title wasn’t filed until 13 working days after the sale (April 13, 2023). This delay actually caused a major issue, the auction plaintiff tried to amend the final judgment amount, and by mistake, a new Final Judgment was entered for a future auction date after the 10-day window, but before the Certificate of Title was issued. Unfortunately, nobody, from the plaintiff’s attorney to the judge and the clerk, caught the error in time, resulting in significant costs and a lot of back-and-forth to resolve the problem. You’ll find all the details in the case docket.


Also, if you review random Certificates of Title in Miami-Dade for 2023 and 2024, you’ll notice similar delays cropping up, especially since the shift to more remote (“home office”) operations. These procedural inconsistencies have become quite frequent.


Hope this helps!


 Thanks Fernando, very interesting case.  I assume there wasn't a mortgage on the property?  Did the Clerk give an explanation for the delay in issuing the CT?  I don't see anything in the file.