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All Forum Posts by: Richard C.

Richard C. has started 19 posts and replied 1919 times.

Originally posted by @Jesse T.:
Originally posted by @Jon Mason:

I think it's funny to hear "real" investors say that if they have too much going on they'll occasionally wholesale a deal and they feel they're justified in doing so, but if you're a wholesaler and you do this repeatedly, you're clearly morally bankrupt.

The party who generally is damaged by incompetent wholesalers is the seller.  For the most part a seller doesn't care who ends up buying their property as long as they end up with the amount they agreed to sell for at the time they agreed to sell.

 Exactly.  That's what annoys me about wholesalers claiming that the are trying to "help" people with their "problems."  (Apparently carrying around all of that yucky "equity" stuff is now a problem.  Must be heavy, or something.)

 I had a couple in my area come to me and offer to sell me their property (can't really say house, it was a mobile on its own lot.)  They needed the money, had lots of medical bills and the husband was in the process of getting disability for a back injury.  I could have "wholesaled" it.  Would have made a nice little chunk of money.  Not a lot, it was a 20-year-old mobile home.  But on a decent lot with a well and septic in place.

I didn't.  I referred them to a Realtor.  I told them they could sell it for more than I would be able to pay.  I think it was on the market for maybe 25-30 days.

Did I benefit?  Sure, I have a Realtor friend who owes me one.  But importantly, for me, this couple got the full benefit of a property they worked hard for, got more of their bills paid, and I doubt very much is running around telling their friends and relatives that I am a dirtbag no one should do business with.

On a personal level, I have never been one to care much what people think of me.  But this real estate stuff is a business, and in business, reputation matters.

Almost.  But I won't buy from one.  In part for ethical reasons and in part for practical reasons.  I work in a very small area.  I live here.  I don't want a reputation for being part of taking advantage of desperate people.

Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Ben Leybovich

And in reality BP should take it upon them selves to have pod casts that interview state regulators.. instead of for profit middle men who have other agendas as they do now.. Its nice and all to hear how others have done things. but it would also be nice if BP would get the straight scoop out on this hot topic they could take the lead.. that would be some credible help for the average BP person trying to break into the business and thinks the quickest and easiest way is through wholesaling because that is what they are taught here and with other guru courses.   So that's one thought.. !

This is a fantastic idea.  In fact, I would extend it a bit, to cover other aspects of real estate law.  It drives me nuts when some poster in Texas or Tennessee gives advice to a landlord in California or Massachusetts that will result in that landlord having a very, very rough year.

Originally posted by :

But being a middle man lender I also have to just keep to myself about everyone's business model... Its funny how indirectly I come into contact with many of the folks on BP and they don't even know it  LOL...

 I have a small piece of a 12-lot subdivision in Bedford, NH.  There was a builder who made on offer, with a funder from Portland, OR.  Was that you?

Post: How do I hide I am the owner?

Richard C.Posted
  • Bedford, NH
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Agree with the other posters.  Put on your big-girl pants and do the job.  You're already doing an intellectually-demanding job in a male-dominated environment.  You can do this.

Post: Wholesaling for the newbies

Richard C.Posted
  • Bedford, NH
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Originally posted by @Chris Villalobos:

Hello :) I just signed up recently and am very exited to hear from all of you.
quick intro about me, 20 y/o male , recently got fired from job, and is now starting my education into Real Estate.

I recently took a 3 day seminar from fortune builders about the basics of investing, they made it seem so good and brought up the concept of wholesaling and I was extremely curious. It was when they asked me to go to a private lender to borrow 35k to buy their program when I told them to take a hike. 

so now I decided to make an account here and learn as much as I can from you guys :). so now I'm still interested about wholesaling and think it's the best place to start, I'm just overwhelmed with information and I don't know what to do.

fortune builders told me to start looking for buyers first and ask what kind of properties they are looking for, this way i can build my buyers list, so i'm already planning to attend a REIA meeting in my town tomorrow, but how do I find sellers?? what must I ask? what must I know about the homes? how can I protect my initial investment in case all my exit strategies fail?

from what I read in some forums, wholesaling is tough, I can see that now, it takes time and a lot of effort.
the reason I'm starting here is because I'm now unemployed. I have A LOT of time, and it's the cheapest way to start. I can only use 2k of my own money to start, and that's basically 70% of my saving. even if I manage to make 5k in 2 deals I feel that's a great start. 

also, I heard I should make my own website. is this correct?

please, if any of you have any information, tips, and advice, please don't hesitate to say so

 Please don't do this.  It is not just possible, but likely, that you will blow through your $2000 and have nothing, not a single deal, maybe not even a single decent lead, to show for it.

If you have a lot of time and $2000, you are something like the ideal candidate to get a real estate agents license and start working for a broker.  You can do that for well under $2000.  And when working as an agent, if you put in the time, you WILL make sales.

Make your first money that way, and then get into other aspects of real estate investing.

I was going to disagree with the OP, and say that we should still have wholesalers posting because maybe then some can be saved.

But then I read Karl's ridiculous, insulting post, and think maybe they should be banned.

Believe it or not, Karl, I don't refrain from robbing banks because I am either ignorant of how to go about it, or afraid.  

What absurd self-aggrandizement. Many of us have done things in our lives that require actual courage.  It's not a word I would apply to screwing widows out of their homes.

I give you full respect for your role as a Realtor.  Other roles, not so much.

Post: Got an offer on my house but....

Richard C.Posted
  • Bedford, NH
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Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

You are totally wasting your time with this guy. He has no money and has no intention of buying the property himself. He had you take it off MLS because he's going to advertise it for $220k, so he doesn't want his "buyers" to see it for sale at $205k. Do you really think he can sell it tom his "buyers", who are just a bunch of yahoos who answered some craigslist ad, when the hundreds of actual buyers who saw it in the MLS didn't bite at a lower price? Look in craigslist and you will see your house being offered or sale, which will tell how real this guys buyers are. Get out of this contract as soon as you can, get it back on mls, and lower the price. The house was not priced under market if you got no offer offers in 2 months, period.

Or tell him that you will accept his offer and take it off the MLS. But only for a cash offer with NO contingencies. No inspection contingency, no financing contingency, no partner approval contingency, NOTHING. And a non-refundable deposit of 2% of the purchase price.

In all likelihood, that will get rid of the bottom-feeder.

Post: Bandit signs!!!.

Richard C.Posted
  • Bedford, NH
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You're paying someone to tell you to break the law.  Think about that, and then find a better way to spend the money you are giving your "mentor."

Post: Dave Ramsey or Robert Kiyosaki?

Richard C.Posted
  • Bedford, NH
  • Posts 2,011
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Which provides the deepest, most fully-formed examination of philosophy, "Everything I Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarten" or "Chicken Soup for the -whatever- Soul"?

A pox on Ramsay and Kiyosaki both.  Read a real book.