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All Forum Posts by: Seth Borman

Seth Borman has started 5 posts and replied 545 times.

Post: CA prop 10 opinions

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Originally posted by @Joseph M.:
Originally posted by @Seth Borman:
Originally posted by @Alex Vidal:

The Prop 10 polls aren’t looking good for the Yes vote. My company’s various business arms have been pumping millions into the No side and it’s working because the Yes votes have no real logical argument other than short term benefits for current renters. If you’re familiar with SF apts it’s a prime example of what happens when you get rent control - crappy buildings/obsolete units and insane market rents that are artificially inflated by rent control.

The thing to watch out for if you own commercial deals (5+ unit apts too), is on the 2020 ballot they’re going to have a vote to separate prop 13 so commercial deals are no longer protected. This bill is very likely to pass since the typical mom and pop owners who own smaller buildings/single family homes will still be protected.

 The split roll won't effect any residential real estate. Even the residential portion of a mixed use building will still fall under current law. Size won't change that.

What the prop will do is kick underutilized parcels onto the market. Vacant land, parking lots, low grade retail, etc will kick loose for residential development.

 Which will accelerate gentrification..ironically.. There are still underutilized parcels in L.A , many of the owners don't have incentive, but if they have a big tax increase they will. 

 Gentrification doesn't really work the way that you think it does. The biggest cause of gentrification is a shortage of housing in the most desirable neighborhoods. Want to protect South LA from gentrification? Develop housing in all the golf courses in West LA so people don't have to move to the hood to pay less than 10 years income for a termite ridden fixer upper.

Also, keep in mind that before development happens investors (that would be us) have already bought up all the value add properties and turned them around. Money flows to development when you just can't find apartments anymore and you have to start building them.

Post: CA prop 10 opinions

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Originally posted by @Joseph M.:

@Alex Vidal , I've heard about the bills to overturn Prop 13 for commercial properties. This would result in higher consumer prices. It could also put many long time business owners that own their property out of business. Also with NNN leases the tenant pays taxes it could put them out of business.

Either way it puts uncertainty into the economy which isn't a good thing.

 The tax benefit of Prop 13 is capitalized into the value of the property. Repealing Prop 13 will see asset values fall, not rents go up. Even in cases where they do go up the benefits outweigh to costs. So what if a few tire shops and parking lots go under? We will see a whole wave of residential land go up for sale.

Post: CA prop 10 opinions

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Originally posted by @Chris Mason:
Originally posted by @Seth Borman:
Originally posted by @Alex Vidal:

The thing to watch out for if you own commercial deals (5+ unit apts too), is on the 2020 ballot they’re going to have a vote to separate prop 13 so commercial deals are no longer protected. This bill is very likely to pass since the typical mom and pop owners who own smaller buildings/single family homes will still be protected.

 The split roll won't effect any residential real estate. Even the residential portion of a mixed use building will still fall under current law. Size won't change that.

 I actually haven't looked at how the 2020 split roll ballot initiative that will repeal Prop 13 protections for commercial real estate is defining "commercial." Have you? There's precedent (in Oakland for example) for drawing a line in the sand other than the standard "5+ unit or mixed use" line.

 When I dug into it they defined residential as long term rental uses (houses and apartments). As written it is mostly painless for the majority of people, unless those people own parking lots, in which case they are about to realize some capital gains!

The best public policy would be to get rid of Prop 13 altogether. The second best would be to limit it to natural persons in their permanent residence.

Post: CA prop 10 opinions

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Originally posted by @Alex Vidal:

The Prop 10 polls aren’t looking good for the Yes vote. My company’s various business arms have been pumping millions into the No side and it’s working because the Yes votes have no real logical argument other than short term benefits for current renters. If you’re familiar with SF apts it’s a prime example of what happens when you get rent control - crappy buildings/obsolete units and insane market rents that are artificially inflated by rent control.

The thing to watch out for if you own commercial deals (5+ unit apts too), is on the 2020 ballot they’re going to have a vote to separate prop 13 so commercial deals are no longer protected. This bill is very likely to pass since the typical mom and pop owners who own smaller buildings/single family homes will still be protected.

 The split roll won't effect any residential real estate. Even the residential portion of a mixed use building will still fall under current law. Size won't change that.

What the prop will do is kick underutilized parcels onto the market. Vacant land, parking lots, low grade retail, etc will kick loose for residential development.

Post: Renting out an un-permitted unit

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314

@Owen Schwaegerle

1) AirBnB.

2) Expand existing unit with an additional suite. (One Lease).

3) Rent as a "bedroom" to an existing unit. (Separate Lease).

Depends on your market.

Post: Cash Flowing in Southern California

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314

This property is a fourplex that sold, in Los Angeles, for $350,000. I toured the property. It was completely trashed. We estimated that it would take $250,000 to get it refurbished.

That means that someone got this building for $600,000. Rents are going to be about $6,000 (if you care about the 1% rule) expenses will be about 25%, so NOI will be $54,000, for a cap rate of 9%. If the building sells at a 5% cap rate it will sell for $1,000,000.

The barrier to entry is the amount of cash required.

Post: New contruction vs resale

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314

I would expect the greater savings to come from insurance.

Post: Cash Flowing Multifamily Los Angeles

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314

Principal pay down is your friend. Basically at these rents and valuations you build equity every month. Eventually you can either sell the building or refinance to get it out.

That said, you absolutely can cash flow a property here, you just need to be very careful and spend a lot of time looking. 

Post: Rebuilding my mother's home after house flood in Los Angeles

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314

From a cash flow perspective its going to be easiest and most straightforward to make an ADU.

PM me the address and I'll take a look and give you some ideas.

Post: Tiny Home In High Rent Cities

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314

Typically the residual land value won't allow it. Larger homes that sell or rent for more will be required to make the deal pencil.

The exception is in places where you can put a humber of tiny homes on a lot.