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Post: STR Rehab Financing question

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I'm not seeing what others are. I think your numbers are too tight. If I add acquisition and rehab together, not to mention carrying costs, I'm at 80% of the ARV. Most hard money lenders are at a max of 75% of the ARV all in.
Post: Can I get two loans around same time?

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Quote from @Nessa Lyn:
Hi guys so I'm new to real estate Investing and I have a few questions. I want to know can I get 2 different types of loans around the same time? I was looking at a 4 plex for an FHA loan and a and a apartment complex 8 units for a dscr loan. Can I do both?
Understand that you'll need to qualify for both loans with the FHA lender and the property will have to meet the self-sustainability test, and you will not be able to offset the rents from the 8 unit with any income. Buy the FHA property first and then do the DSCR loan. Otherwise, you may not qualify for the owner occupied one.
Post: Reverse multi-fam House Hack? DSCR loan refi to Traditional Loan?

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Quote from @Cameron G.:
I am looking to do a house hack for my first investment. Ideally, I can have my parents cosign and we can go in together on a duplex. Alternatively, I can try to get a DSCR loan on a tri or quad that cash flows sufficiently to qualify for the loan. I want to talk about this second option with a little twist.
Obviously the challenge with a DSCR loan in an owner occupied property is you lose out on the income of one unit, which makes it hard to qualify for the loan. So, what I am thinking is doing something like a reverse house hack, where I fill the whole unit with tenants after buying with a DSCR loan, and then refinancing into a traditional loan later and moving into one of the units [to get the benefit of a house hack, saving money on rent while building equity]. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks!
You could do that. Make sure you take the prepayment penalty into consideration and refinance out of it before you occupy it to avoid mortgage fraud, but lots of lenders allow "lives with family" as a substitute for a primary residence mortgage history.
Post: Can You Purchase Duplex with 2 owners?

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Quote from @Mark V.:
Hi There,
I was talking to a friend of mine who was wondering if it was possible to purchase a Duplex together where they would get one unit and I would get another. Is this something that is possible?
How does it work when it comes to your debt-income ratio? Would you both have separate mortgages for your half or do you have one mortgage and its reported on your credit report that you have a mortgage for the full amount of the duplex?
Figured getting a duplex in Austin for say $575K split in two is ~$287K per unit and way more affordable. If something like this works, I can probably do another deal with another friend I know out of state who would likely agree to manage the property for me. The 2nd property would likely be purchased via a self-direct IRA. The one in Austin would be purchased traditionally either via FHA or 5% down.
Let me try to clarify.
If the property is a duplex, meaning two units, and it's on one parcel, then you cannot get two mortgages on it because it is one property; unless, as others have gotten into, you make both units a condo. In that case, each unit becomes a SEPARATE property. Until you do that, you will not get two mortgages on one property; one for each half.
For units, FHA is the best way to go. Get one loan and each of you pay half per month.
The parcel count is important here. If you have one parcel, you have one property and only one loan in the first position.
Post: Rental Property Conventional Lenders That Will Close In An LLC?

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Quote from @Burt L.:
I have been looking at doing a DSCR loan but looks like I'm giving up on that as DSCR loans require bank statements anyway and if I'm going to provide that, I might as well go Conventional and have significant rate savings.
I can obtain a co-signor/Guarantor and make changes to the Operating Agreement as need to be to satisfy a lender as has been suggested as an OA is not a recorded document anyway.
What are some Conventional lenders that will close in an LLC? There are apparently Conventional lenders that do it commonly, even though its not their first choice. A believe a person has to sign a personal guarantee anyway, regardless of whether a DSCR/Non QM or Conventional. In this market it seems I might as well obtain the rate savings.
You're reading way more into the bank statement requirement than is necessary. One of the reasons for the bank statement requirements is so the lender can set up an ACH for payments. If you're getting a bunch of cash out from the refinance, the lender will allow the cash out to be used for reserves so if you don't have a bunch of NSF's, there's no harm in providing bank statements. You can even go start up a new business bank account if you don't have one for your LLC. Not sure why you're hung up on it.
Conventional financing will not allow you to close in an LLC with multiple members.
If you can close as an individual and use full tax returns, then conventional is the way to go for lower rates/fees. Other than that, go DSCR in your situation.
One girl's opinion.
All the best
Stephanie
Post: Vacation home Loans- 10-15% down vs. DSCR

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Quote from @Devon Harris:
Hello Bigger pockets members. Anyone have advice on mortgage lenders that provide 90%LTV in Ms for a vacation home loan?
Only unethical lenders/brokers fail to mention prepayment penalties. They're a part of the financing package for DSCR.
DSCR is a tool like any other loan product and works for some and doesn't work for others. I've always said (and I think I said on this thread too), it's always better to exhaust your conventional options first. Also, if you do go the DSCR route, explore reducing the prepay if you don't want it. The numbers will speak for themselves with all the information. Treat investing like a math problem and you'll be fine.
Post: Residential VS Commercial Mortgage

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Quote from @Brook Burns:
I’m looking for information on if a conventional or commercial mortgage would be best for a fourplex.
The best financing for a duplex is FHA, owner occupied. With 3.5% down, you're into the property with the lowest down payment and the best rate or any other loan product. If you don't want or can't live in the property then DSCR is your next best bet. With just 20% down vs 25% for conventional and no income verification to worry about other than the DSCR number, the barrier to entry is lower although the rate and fees will be higher.
Post: Rent primary residence or sell

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Quote from @Bobby E.:
Quote from @Sebastian Hernandez:
Sell that one and buy two properties is what i would do.
Thanks Hernandez. If I can convince wife to live in one of the tri plex units with low down payment and 30 year conventional loan , then I'm thinking I'll have enough cash to get the Duplex and the Quadplex soon after. Not sure how long i would have to live in the triplex. 6 months? I don't want to be there long. Add'l thoughts? I would like to have a portfolio of at least 3 properties by the end of 2023 and add 1 or 2 a year until age 65.
12 months
Post: Rent primary residence or sell

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Quote from @Bobby E.:
Quote from @Stephanie P.:
It's all math. You've done the bulk of it. What does the math tell you?
Also, never try to time the market, but most people feel we are getting ready for a correction so if you need the cash to make your new business fly and that cash will make you money, I think the math tells you to sell.
Then with a rate of 3.375 and a balance of 126K, I think I'd get the largest HELOC and make the house work for me that way. You're young enough to see the market turn around after a correction and still realize profit from a sale 15 years from now. Also, I wouldn't worry about the 1% rule. Lots of people are profiting from rentals with properties that wouldn't hit that mark.
Post: BRRRR METHOD CASH OUT REFI-ARM VS. FIXED RATE

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Quote from @Ashley Glinka:
Hi,
First time poster here. My husband I recently purchased our first duplex using the BRRRR method. We purchased through our LLC and paid cash. We've been talking with different banks. Do all cash out refi's in an LLC have some sort of ARM in the terms or is it possible to do a cash out refi 30 year fixed? One of the banks is quoting us 75% LTV with 10/6 ARM...locked for 10 years, 30 year amortization.
What have you found to be the most challenging when purchasing and refi under an LLC? Anything I should know of ahead of time as we work through this process? Thanks! Looking forward to feedback and further discussion.
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