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Post: What is my LLC classified as by the IRS?

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Originally posted by @Natalie Kolodij:
Originally posted by @Josh Dixon:
@Navid A. (@Natalie Kolodij) removing her from the Articles will update the state's records but will no longer fix the IRS. Normally that would cause what the IRS calls a technical termination, but those are no longer allowed. So you would need to also file a Form 8832 (Entity Classification Election) which can take a while for the IRS to process and get approved, or file a final return and then apply for a new EIN and a new name and re-file with the state (usually cheaper and faster, but stinks if you like your company name). Or you could just keep it a partnership with your wife and you'll just have to file 2 returns each year.
IThere hasn't been an initial return filed.
I would remove the second and just respond to an IRS notice received. The Partnership hasn't had any activity.
I pray for the day BP allows GIFs. *Insert Mic Drop GIF*
Post: What is my LLC classified as by the IRS?

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Originally posted by @Navid A.:
@Josh Dixon @Natalie Kolodij, thanks for clearing this up for me! Much appreciated. I reviewed the IRS letter for my EIN number and it does confirm they want a 1065 filing for it. I did some research with my state and found the proper form needed to file an amendment to my Articles of Organization to remove my wife as a member. There's only a $50 filing fee. Would this be sufficient to avoid a separate filing requirement before year end? I'm hoping this will be the solution to all this. Goes to show that not all CPAs are created equal. Had I listened to my CPA's guidance, I would've been in the hole. Needless to say, I will be needing a new CPA!
Yes, that is correct. All you will need to do file that amendment and show the effective date as it actually is. Such "partnerships" can make said election prior to the due date of the tax return.
Post: What is my LLC classified as by the IRS?

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Originally posted by @Josh Dixon:
@Navid A. (@Natalie Kolodij) removing her from the Articles will update the state's records but will no longer fix the IRS. Normally that would cause what the IRS calls a technical termination, but those are no longer allowed. So you would need to also file a Form 8832 (Entity Classification Election) which can take a while for the IRS to process and get approved, or file a final return and then apply for a new EIN and a new name and re-file with the state (usually cheaper and faster, but stinks if you like your company name). Or you could just keep it a partnership with your wife and you'll just have to file 2 returns each year.
You're incorrect. It is not a technical termination as you are amending to correct the formation error. The second option is to file an Action by Consent to correct it as of the beginning of the entity prior to returns being filed. Once the terms are agreed to it would now be a SMLLC. Both can be a manager, but you may not want both to have ownership. You should also file Form 8832 to correct it with the IRS ahead of time. Note this can be retroactively filed for an entity that incorrectly classified itself. Yes, you may end up with a letter from the IRS requesting a partnership return at which point, you would just need to address it if a letter was written.
You have no idea how many of these I have had to correct.
Post: Seller & Lender communicated to have appraisal raised

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Originally posted by @Patricia Steiner:
It is customary for an appraiser to instruct the seller to provide any comps that support the asking/contract price. This is normally done BEFORE the appraisal report is issued, not after the fact. The comps go through an analysis process by the appraiser to ensure that they are in fact comparable in all acceptable factors before their acceptance.
If I was the buyer, I would ask the appraiser to provide me with both of the completed valuation reports and inquire why the seller provided comps were not identified by the appraiser in compiling the initial report. Valuation is so critical to buying right that I would want the appraiser to "sell me" on the final number.
Again, it's not unusual for an appraiser to give a seller a chance to provide comps as part of the appraisal process - but it is unusual that it occurred after-the-report was issued. I would want to know why.
I agree 100%. I would be very curious as to why it was adjusted. It is quite possible the seller asked the company to review it as it came in so far below the offer.
Post: What due diligence in determining cost basis for depreciation

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Originally posted by @Brian Nel:
In reviewing my taxes for the upcoming year, I've been looking more closely at my Schedule E and reading more about depreciation and cost basis. I know that your cost basis needs to be accurate, a number the IRS agrees with you on, but what constitutes due diligence in choosing this number?
In my situation, most of my property's market value comes from the land, not the dwelling. Additionally, I have 2 recent appraisals showing different values as well as 2 years of tax statements where the tax assessor placed significantly different value on the dwelling. On top of this, I house hack so I only attribute a percentage of the dwelling as eligible for depreciation.
All that said, it seems I have a significant amount of room to choose my cost basis and provide evidence for each. What is the most proper approach in this situation and what would the IRS want to see in the event of an audit?
There is actually quite a bit of room here as you can review your appraisal, local land comps, your property tax assessment etc. The key point is for a reasonable amount of room. In my opinion. I will want the highest amount of depreciation possible and would select the most favorable.
Post: What is my LLC classified as by the IRS?

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Originally posted by @Natalie Kolodij:
Nope.
You added two of you to an LLC- now it's a partnership and you need to file a 1065.
The only time this isn't the case is if you're in a community property state.
You DO need to file a separate tax return now. A pass through just means that income/tax payment is passed through to your personal return- and you pay tax based on your 1040.
You may way to see about changing to a SMLLC potentially. I'd consult with a tax pro and see if a Pship makes sense for your situation.
Natalie answered that 100% correct. You technically can amend your articles to adjust membership until the due date of the tax return. Most clients initially want to avoid the additional tax return until they have a developed portfolio. Now, I will also say that you need to maintain a balance sheet for your investments over the long haul. It is a great thing to do and a major advantage of a partnership is that you are required to maintain one as well as track contributions and distributions.
Post: Set-up an LLC per state, or can use one LLC for both?

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Originally posted by @Corby Goade:
There is no "right" way to do this. You need to find an attorney and an accountant that know their stuff and that you trust, and move forward with the set up that they recommend. Everyone you talk to with have a different opinion on how you should set up your business, and the bottom line is that you need to understand and support that structure and have a team in place who does the same.
Best of luck!
This was a great response. You can register your existing LLC in another state. However, It is not always a good idea to do so.
Post: Classifying Spouse as Real Estate Professional

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Originally posted by @David C.:
@Steven Hamilton II
hi Steven,
Is this related to same topic or a seperate tax law to the 750 hour Real Estate Professional benefit (in my case something to consider for spouse in future) tnk you.
https://www.claconnect.com/resources/articles/2019/irs-safe-harbor-on-section-199a-impacts-tax-filing-for-rental-real-estate
Completely different provisions. This one you can ignore as I do not find it to be applicable to most cases. Most rentals will qualify as a business activity.
Post: Solo 401k being audited

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Most retirement account audits start as a result of a personal audit.
The biggest triggers are items outside of the normal. Consider years of significant changes. It all goes into the IRS's scoring system call a DIF Score.
Here is a great article detailing some statistics.
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/taxes/7-reasons-irs-audit/
Post: Finding the right CPA

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Originally posted by @Joshua McMillion:
Hello,
I am relatively new to bigger pockets and real estate investing. Some background, I'm active duty military and recently purchased my first rental property. This property is currently rented, with the start date of June 2019. My family and I used a house hacking strategy and plan on continuing this strategy moving forward. This is the first year my wife and I contemplated using a CPA Vs. H&R Block, which is our usual method. Also, we have not formed an LLC but plan to within the next two years.
Question:
1. How should I search for a CPA with a focus on real estate and military?
2. What are the risks of not having a local CPA?
- we move every two or three years.
3. Is it worth hiring a CPA with only one rental property?
4. How much does normal CPA services run and is it a upfront amount Vs. monthly?
5. Curious: when should I form an LLC?
6. What states are the best to form them?
Thank you ALL in advance!
Sincerely Josh
Hi Joshua,
Here is some information on finding an accountant. You definitely need someone qualified, does not have to be a CPA, could be an Enrolled Agent or an attorney. Just make sure they specialize in tax and have significant experience dealing with real estate investors.
Here is a great list of questions to ask a potential accountant:http://www.biggerpockets.com/f...
Also check out the www.NAEA.org page in your search. It should help you find someone local. If someone comes to me, I'll send them your way.
If you need help in your search or want to verify something don't hesitate to ask.