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All Forum Posts by: Stone Teran

Stone Teran has started 53 posts and replied 369 times.

Post: Does anyone understand pricing behind waste removal?

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120

You might be locked into a longterm contract.

Get a hold of the contract that they are operating off of to get the base price.  That should not vary for the term of the contract.

Now have them explain all their crap fees:  fuel surcharge, city surcharge, fuel surcharge on the city curcharge (I love that one).

If they are "getting froggy" with what they actually bill, hold them accountable!

Keep in mind that her response is actually better than what most people do.  They will put the lease in her name and the guy will start showing up a week later.  Then she will swear he is just visiting every day.

Post: Reaching $100,000 per year CASH FLOW

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Vincent Crane:

Instead of all those duplexes it would be easier to buy small and then large apartment buildings after you get your first couple multi family properties. It's also easier to handle 1-2 loans and locations instead of 27. The PDF by Brandon Turner, 7 years to 7 figure wealth, which is free and you can google it, really outlines how that works. Starting with 1, then 2, then 3 fourplexes, then trading up for a small 28 unit apartment building, then 2 years later trading it up for a 72 unit. That's really an easier way to scale, I think.

 I found 7 years to 7 figure wealth to be BS.  His numbers aren't realistic.

Post: Reaching $100,000 per year CASH FLOW

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120

You get to $100k/yr profit by increasing the # of units/houses over time.  Everyone has their own "fuel" to grow this number.  My #1 fuel so far has been my full-time W-2 income.  "Keep your day job" is what I tell people.

PS-I will have a great 4-family up for sale on the west side of Cincinnati soon.

Post: Seven Questions Inexperienced Wholesalers Hate

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Jim Viens:

@Jeff Morelock- You realize you're advocating shutting out any wholesaler that (a) doesn't have a real estate license; (b) isn't part of a big company AND (c) is new to the business. I understand being cautious in regards to dealing with that much money but at some point the investor has to take responsibility for their own due-diligence when purchasing a property. 

Yes, I agree!  A dumbest rookie wholesaler can bring me a deal and I'll gladly buy if the deal is a good one.  I'm ultimately not relying on his valuation.

Post: OHio Multifamily R20 insulation requirement for new roofs

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Chris Field:

Flat roofs are horrible, if its a keeper I'd frame a real roof over it. 

 I completely disagree.  On the 38 unit in question, one can only imagine the staggering cost.  I like flat roofs.  EPDM is a wonderful material.  Most roofing companies on the other hand stink. 

Post: What tools?

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120

I have a 26" toolbox that I put in my car every morning.  In it I have:

Big hammer

Medium adj wrench

Baby adj wrench

Pipe wrench

Big corded drill

Cordless drill

Box of drill bits

Electrical tape

Voltage tester

A few boxes of screws

Headlight

Screwdrivers

Boxcutter

Forstner bit

Angle grinder with diamond blade

And I think that's it.  It gets heavy but is all I need 90% of the time.

Post: Anyone own rentals in the ghetto?

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120

I only invest in the ghetto.  Some good points were made in this thread and I want to repeat them:

1. It's a job, not a passive investment.

2. Holding vacant properties is VERY risky.

I like to purchase half vacant apt buildings in the ghetto.  The tenants help protect the building from vandals.  Owning a vacant building (with copper) is like protecting a steak from hungry dogs with your bare hands.  If you fix the place up and screen well, you can fill it up with decent people who may be poor but are responsible enough to pay rent every month.

Post: 20 Unit Complex - All Vacant - Offer?

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Jason James:

First question is would I rehab a few units and start renting them out in phases or would I attempt to get the entire project completed and then rent the units? Of course I could advertise and take applications while under construction.

 Phases are always better unless you are talking about a major renovation happening within a short timeframe.

Post: Financing a 50% vacant 16-family

Stone TeranPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 120

You'll probably have to go with hard money.

Conventional Freddie lenders seem to be easing a little but they are still very skittish when occupancy is under 80%.  Of course A/R quality, deferred maintenance, your credit score, appraisal value, down pmt, all matter a lot too.