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All Forum Posts by: Tim G.

Tim G. has started 61 posts and replied 1808 times.

Post: What are some good podcasts to listen to reguarding Wholesaling?

Tim G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
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I enjoy Sean Terry's and my good Friend Todd Toback's podcasts.

Post: Do You Use Double Closes to Hide your Profit Spread?

Tim G.Posted
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  • San Diego, CA
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I try to avoid double closing if at all possible.

If you are in a hot market, they don't like the fee. Sell it to someone else. They need to worry about the deal working based on their criteria. Not what you are making.

I don't do MLS deals for what its worth.

Post: Wholesaling with tenants in place

Tim G.Posted
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  • San Diego, CA
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I have wholesaled them with tenants if its a hold and they are a solid tenant.

I have also had to supply them to the buyer with a signed agreement to vacate and cooperative tenants. It really depends on what your buyers want from the deal. Rehab or hold.

Post: Are You A Real Wholesaler? How Many Have You Done?

Tim G.Posted
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Three in the last month.

Post: $20k Wholesale Breakdown

Tim G.Posted
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Jake, the address is listed. So it can be tracked throughout the process. Rehab costs, not sure I feel comfortable asking for that info. I estimated it and believe it was accurate.

Cash for keys? First time I've ever done it and yes it was strange. I paid way more than I should but I kept my word and still made money so on to the next deal.

They received a portion upon closing direct through escrow. They will receive a second (majority of the payment) when they vacate on the agreed upon date. Should they not vacate by a specified date those funds in escrow go directly to the buyer.

We had a cooperative tenant, the buyer really had no choice. I was taking the deal elsewhere if they wouldn't close under those terms. I did convey with absolute certainty the tenant was out.

Also, a condition of receiving any payment was proof of the new lease they had signed.

Post: $20k Wholesale Breakdown

Tim G.Posted
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  • San Diego, CA
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Pretty much, you have to remember this is not too high end of a home based on Southern California standards.

The other important thing to remember is that just as there are business that sell on different margins than most (Costco). There are rehabbers under the same business model, those are the buyers you want.

Post: Trying to understand "wholesaling"

Tim G.Posted
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No problem at all. We all love what we do (or at least I hope so) and that means we should be quick to defend ourselves.

The end of the day, its "a way" not "the" way for some of us its providing a great income and opportunities we would otherwise never see.

Post: Trying to understand "wholesaling"

Tim G.Posted
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Kyle,

I think you are taking Jakes post as my own. I quoted him in reference to my thread "20k Wholesale Breakdown" we are in similar company.

Cheers,

Post: Trying to understand "wholesaling"

Tim G.Posted
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  • San Diego, CA
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Originally posted by Jake Kucheck:
I look at wholesalers as, in theory, exploiting a market inefficiency. They are able to find sellers, who for whatever reason, are willing to sell their properties for less than their true value. As such, they are able to provide a valuable product for an investor that is able to do what they are unable to do (close the deal with their own cash). Thus, they took a problem for everyone and turned it into a win-win-win situation. You know, in theory.

The problem is that wholesalers don't know that they are supposed to be doing that. The gurus teach them how easy it can be, and so of course they try to manipulate the numbers into being attractive instead of finding attractive numbers to begin with. Sad, but true.

Will some people be effective at doing this? Sure. Is it a respectable and profitable business model? Maybe. Is it investing? Not any more than selling used cars or snake oil is.

I think wholesaling has its place, and when done properly, it can be a great market inefficiency to exploit. The trick is finding a wholesaler whom has done it properly. And there, I'll definitely agree with Rob K. Post your numbers wholesalers... we're all eager to see it in practice.

Posted.

Post: $20k Wholesale Breakdown

Tim G.Posted
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You got it. Tenant was on a fresh lease and has the right to stay regardless of who owns it. We wanted them out to have it clear for the rehabber.

Just never give up, be consistent at whatever it is you chose to do. Treat is as a business not a hobby and you'll get it.