@John C. @Chris Gawlik I agree with many points John listed. I have hundreds of C doors in Dayton, OH and some D neighborhoods. Let’s make sure we are clear though, a C building can be in a D neighborhood and a D building can be in C or B neighborhood. So you need to ensure your looking at the building and neighborhood which it sounds like you are.
Managing these properties are very hands on and you have to be serious about your business. Firm, fair and consistent will go a long way and tenants need to know you will not put up with any crap! We address quality of life issues immediately and I spend plenty of time at the properties so they see my face. I also challenge the neighborhood when they test the waters to see if they can loiter on our properties.
You can do this out of state, but you have to have the right PM and very few have the ability and skill to manage challenging areas. If they are timid, the residents will know this! My background is law enforcement and I am still the VP for a large security Officer firm. We specialize in security at C and D properties in challenging areas. We handle security for metropolitan housing as well and in my younger police days I worked off duty at the worst of the worst properties in this city. I say that because I am a little different and I know how to adapt and handle these properties. Most PM’s will not.
Just yesterday I had an acquaintance with me driving properties and looking for properties for him to invest in. While at a new building of mine, we were approached to buy dope and other stuff. @Jesse B. Could probably share an outside view of this interaction, but you have to address these situations head on or they will take over your property.
Recent D story you can google is Western Manor Apartments in Dayton, OH. 15-16 years ago the property was a war zone!!! We took security in and cleaned it up and we also took over a small portion of management for the owner. Property was successful for the next 12 years with minimal issues. They sold the property two years ago at a good amount due to the success. Mostly section 8 buildings. However, new owner pinched pennies and started cutting onsite security. Against our best advice, they cut security down to a few hours a week. We knew this was not effective and they stopped paying their bill. We cut services off. That was less than a year ago. A little over a month ago the city shut the entire complex down and made everyone get out. This is over 200 units. That property is vacant and now sitting being destroyed as we speak and the owner has about 6million in loans on it.
I guess the point is if you know nothing about these neighborhoods, stay away unless you commit to learning and being hands on.
However, if you do it right, the cash flow can be very nice! It’s not hard for us to get $300-$400 cash flow per door! We work our tails off though to keep them right
The only thing I disagree with from john is all the ways to collect rent. We have two options, they can pay on our software through their app or they can drop payment to our office durring office hours. If they don’t pay we issue a notice, if they don’t respond we evict. We do not chase rent!!!! We run 3% occupancy. It’s about changing the culture of your tenants and training them how to work within the system you have created. We never give cash for keys, because that’s unfair to next landlord! We need to be able to see evictions through our screening process.