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All Forum Posts by: Trent Reeve

Trent Reeve has started 26 posts and replied 578 times.

Post: Airbnb does it again

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Patricia Andriolo-Bull:

There is no end in site for these platforms to play games. They just don’t want guests to see how much they charge. I’m on the higher end and guests end up paying Airbnb $2-3k which is outrageous. Now they want to disguise that fee and make it look like I over price. Hopefully more will come to my direct booking site now. 


 From the view of the consumer WHO CARES?   The customer is just concerned with their total cost, not how the pie is divided.  It’s not like the customer is going to say, well, since the host is only getting $200 of the $275 then I’ll go $75 over budget because it’s not their fault.  The point (from the users point of view) isn’t that the Airbnb fees aren’t disclosed separately; it’s that those fees increase the cost to a certain amount.   Since Airbnb fees increase the total charge, either of the following result - (1) host lowers amount charged so TOTAL amount still attracts customers (2) total amount is enough to decrease demand and hence increase vacancy time while consumers find cheaper alternatives either through less expensive platforms, direct with host, or at hotel, or (3) consumer stays home or goes somewhere else. 

Here's what I don't understand. How can someone be in the STR business for the long haul and NOT do everything possible to establish a business model where they're almost exclusively direct to customer of through low fee platforms? I understand that 10 years ago (when I owned some STRs) competition was less, Airbnb fees were lower, and Airbnb was all you needed to have an outsized profit - if you were in the right location. But now? It will only get worse as Airbnb growth slows down - they will look to "make it up" by "squeezing" hosts even if it's detrimental to themselves long term.


 thats easier for someone with say 20-40 properties. For the owner that has 1-3 properties, you can have a website but its harder to generate the traffic to the website vs the eyeballs that see properties on Air/VRBO. Yes, after awhile you may have repeat guests that know and book with you directly. But as mentioned, you need educated guests also that look to save those booking fees the channels charge also.

Post: Airbnb does it again

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @Jeremy Jareckyj:

I think it is ridiculous they are targeting hosts who use PMS... I mean whats even the thought behind that?


 you dont think non-PMS hosts get moved a month or 2 later? i would bet on it

Post: Airbnb does it again

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @Jon Martin:
Quote from @Denise Supplee:
I think many investors will start leaning toward direct booking instead. It actually came up in a meeting I had about a boutique hotel investment, and the consensus was that relying too much on Airbnb just eats into profits.
While I want this to be true, the reality is that it's pretty tough with a single family home unless you really have a differentiator like a special view, location, unique design featured in a magazine etc. Whereas hotels have more OTA options, where a 10-room boutique hotel can land right under a brand name luxury hotel in the search listing, plus more ways to market themselves independently. 


ehh, I say yes and no. I think many guests are getting smarter to see if hosts have direct booking. I have probably had about 20% reach out to me after booking when they found my direct booking site. I know there is the thought that you shouldn't "name" your property, but I do and also own the same domain name, so if they search they can find my site and reach me there. 

Post: Newbie, Strategy Advice, STR to start and then MTR

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @Allison Hertzberg:

Hi everyone, go easy on me! It's been three weeks of drinking from the fire house of real estate investment.  Looking to buy my first property and launch by EOY so looking for something pretty turnkey.  My thought is to start off self managing in 2025 for bonus depreciation against my W2, and then switch in 2026 to MTR so my kids don't feel so neglected (kidding, not kidding :).

My focus to start is tax strategy and taking losses against my W2, then with mid term it would be to avoid headache of turnover and focus on light cashflow and holding for appreciation.

Was thinking Bradenton FL, PCB or Poconos, so i can reach all fairly quickly from the NE.

How difficult is it to switch from STR to MTR and then what are the implications if i did a cost seg in year one and took bonus depreciation, then switched after those 1st year losses?

 Im in the PCB market. you arent going to find many MTR, so I would be careful on that being your long term strategy there. I would bet similar with the Poconos. Most vacation markets are not generally set up to support MTR's.

Post: Panama City Beach STR occupancy restrictions, wrong?

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @Jeremiah Dye:

@Trent Reeve oh yeah, I want to host a safe place. We haven’t been given notice that it’s a requirement, but every inspection has a different person come out and tell other owners different things. They wouldn’t pass us the first time because we didn’t have a “ground” on our outlets. Which when the building was built ground wasn’t a requirement. There is no “ground” anywhere. I had to hire an electrician to come out and state that and then submit it before they approved.


 There has been a problem with the newly trained fire dept inspectors and getting different information. I recommend reaching out to the Fire Capt, he has been very open on the items and helped me make sure i didnt go overboard trying to meet what I thought were requirements.

Post: Panama City Beach STR occupancy restrictions, wrong?

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @Jeremiah Dye:

@Trent Reeve smoke alarms yes. I am all for safety. My complaint is that they are misinterpreting the life and safety code. Also, my condo building was built before many building codes existed in the area. The city informed us that the association may have to have install sprinklers into every room. Our building is concrete. And the alarms I was talking about were for an entire building system that is monitored. We have fire pull boxes.


 I am just wondering why yours is so different than mine. I also have 2 units in a concrete building. the only changes i had to do, change the smoke alarms from battery to powered and networked and an emergency light on stairs for units more than 1 story. No sprinklers required. Not sure why yours needs an alarm that is "monitored", i haven't seen that requirement from any owners. There are a couple of PCB owners Facebook groups and that would have been mentioned if it was being pushed on a lot of owners.

But I can see why, Florida had a condo not updated and it collapsed and people died. And up and down PCB, complexes have not been updating and now are rushing to do things they should have been updating over years. Yes, its an onus on the owners, but when i change my hat to be a guest, I would hope I'm coming to a safe place. Florida relies so much on tourism, they need rentals to be safe. just mu opinion

Post: STR vs LTR for rest of the year

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521

how big is this house that it would take you $50k to furnish it for STR?

Post: VRBO's New Penalties

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @John Underwood:

That is reasonable. 

A guest should be able to get in or reach someone.

Yes I still LOVE Vrbo.

 same here. I have my day job, but im always aware and making sure the guest can check-in and get into the door. heads off most problems later when they see that I am messaging them asking that they got in with no problems. And if they are paying $3-4k a week for my rental, I agree they should be able to get into the property or reach someone. I get more guests from VRBO than Airbnb or direct bookings.

Post: Panama City Beach STR occupancy restrictions, wrong?

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @Jeremiah Dye:

It’s beginning to be clear that Panama City Beach, Fl does not want lower end vacation rentals. We had invested in an older beach front condo building. Originally a motel. Our place is a 300sqft studio with a kitchenette. Affordable beachside vacations. The city has begun onerous regulations. I get having to pay the taxes. But restrictions on occupancy has really hit our potential guests. The city council and fire dept, have misinterpreted a life and safety code and is restricting 1 person per 150 sqft. They are allowing us to round up, so we are only allowed to have 3 persons, regardless of age. We had to turn away a military family of 4, we were the only place in their budget that was on the beach. Panama City beach is the only municipality I can find that has made these occupancy restrictions. Others are 4 people per bathroom in Florida. I understand over crowding vacation rentals or party houses in residential neighborhoods. But they don’t require these restrictions on hotels and motels. We once stayed in a hotel with several bunk beds, 4 showers. In a space that was just a bit larger than 300sqft. They are also now requiring fire sprinklers and fire alarms regardless of the building type if it’s more than 1 story tall. Pool inspections, deck inspections, Florida business licenses and Florida hospitality license.

Does anyone know what profession can set a building and space’s occupancy? I have read and watched videos on the life and safety code and it’s not based on square footage but by space design. Door width, stair width, exit width. And the 150sqft per person is just the minimum occupancy not the maximum.

Sorry for the length, but we are loosing money and need help!

Jeremiah


 I am in the PCB market. They do not require sprinklers for a property with more than 1 floor. I have multiple properties and some are 2 story, no sprinkler required. as for fire alarms, those should be required for any rental and that shouldn't be a surprise.

the sq footage restrictions have been around for awhile, they just weren't as hard on enforcing them. Also, the state recommendation is for 1 person per 150 sq ft, but each county can choose their own. reading what is going on and talking to other owners in FL, most counties are now just aligning with the state recommendations. and yes, hotels operate under different occupancy rules, but they also have more requirements around sprinklers, emergency egress and lighting, inspections, etc.

Post: Watermarking photos with logo & QR code

Trent ReevePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Atlanta
  • Posts 587
  • Votes 521
Quote from @Josh Ball:

Do y'all watermark your photos with logo or anything? Wondering about doing this as we have so many properties in our complex that share common items, pool, laundry facility, golf cart parking, etc. This would save people from using the photos we have paid for.

Also wondering about putting a small QR code to the direct booking site but I am sure that will be flagged by AirBNB or VRBO as against their policy. Just wondering the best way to drive traffic to these direct booking sites besides repeat guests & social media.

I am referring to a small image in the bottom of a corner that is partially translucent. Nothing that takes away from the photo itself.


 So I do the part where I name a property and have the domain name to help people find it. I have had this for 3 years. VRBO just this week flagged 1 photo (all 30 have it, but only 1 flagged) because of the watermark in the corner. And they say their AI will flag anything with text in it. So when pressed, even a photo with an Exit sign would be flagged, theoretically. 

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