All Forum Posts by: Michael C.
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Post: Looking for good data for STR investment in S Florida

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@Sofia Sharkey
I’ve also found AirDNA to be inaccurate. One important item to know is many of these websites ‘scrape’ data from Airbnn, VRBO, etc using automated program. The analysis is inherently inaccurate for many of the reasons others have stated and I won’t repeat. We’ve found two solutions - 1) find local operators and ask how their properties are performing. You’ll be surprised at how people are willing to help and 2) find a data provider that using ‘first party data’ to generate rental estimates. Keydata provides this service. It’s more expensive but I’ve found it to be much more accurate.
I hope this helps!
Post: Best ways to break even or profit on short term rentals (STR)?

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Originally posted by @Collin Hays:
Originally posted by @Justin Anderson:
@Eric Baron The play there was to buy for appreciation and make money that way. Up until this past year, CO massively outperformed Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg on that front.
You can pick one usually -- cash flow or appreciation. For cash flow LTR you'd have to go to semi-scary places like Detroit or Baltimore. Appreciation would be SF/NY/Miami.
Funny you mention that. Even with all of the activity and price escalation in the Gatlinburg market, they'd have to double or even triple again to approach the prices you see in the Colorado mountain towns. Gatlinburg is still very much a bargain in many ways.
Totally agree with Justin here. Although the area has experience massive price appreciation over the last 5 years, if you look at Colorado or California, you can see there is still plenty of headroom in the Smoky Mountains (Gatlinburg, Wears Valley, Pigeon Forge, Sevierville) especially when properties are generating double digit cash on cash returns.
We purchased a few cabins in the Smokys and are looking to buy more. Inventory is very low so it's a very competitive environment. I put together a brief presentation for friends and family who are also looking to buy a cabin. Hopefully you'll find it helpful in your research.
Post: Need Help with Creative Financing on a Cash Out Refinance!!

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
@Chase Fisher thanks for the response Chase. Renting it out for a month is definitely a possibility, but I'm not sure I can get the same DSCR off a one month lease or a long term lease as I can with Airbnb...or even close, quite frankly.
I have a 70% LTV option right now where I would just need to show a one month lease agreement then what I do moving forward is up to me, but I'm really looking for 75%-80% LTV so I can pay my initial cash investors back and still get some cash out of the deal on my end. With the ARV even just that 5%-10% can be a deal breaker.
As @Remington Lyman mentioned let us know if you’re aware of an option for this service in Columbus!
Have you checked out Visio? They work with short term rental operators -
Post: I'm new to Biggerpockets and I'm ready to learn!

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Originally posted by@Alora Glaze:
https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Da...
Rich Dad, Poor Dad - is a solid one to start with and that, I'm sure, will lead you to others. I'd suggest turning on your 'keyword alerts' under your profile settings here in BP so you can get direct notifications regarding your topics of interest and the areas you plan on investing on.
Joining local social media groups, on Facebook or otherwise, can also be helpful as far as immersing yourself into the real estate investment (REI) community.
Best of luck to you!!
Another
Another vote for Rich Dad Poor Dad on mindset. Making your money work for you is such an important but undertaught topic in financial literacy.
On Real estate specifically, I found these two books very helpful -
- Investing in Duplexs, Triplexes, and Quads by Larry Loftis
- Buy and Hold 7 Steps to a Real Estate Fortune by David Schumacher
Good luck!
Post: Newbie to Airbnb: New Orleans

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Hi Essien - Congrats on your purchase! Airbnb is great for cash flow and living for free (or near free) is an amazing superpower. The ability to not pay for housing (~40% of monthly income) really frees you up to pursue new opportunities and take more risks.
On NOLA, we analyzed the market 18 months ago and it was very attractive. We had an investment in Domio, which had an amazing Airbnb/Hotel - the Baronne St location. However, there are (were) a number of new regulations and restrictions on short term rentals which dissuaded us from investing in the market. We decided to invest in the Smoky Mountains instead (Gatlinburg, Pigeon Forge, Severville).
Best of luck!
Post: Looking at buying my first rental.

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Originally posted by @Michael C.:
I agree with Daniel's comment above. The cabin prices in Smoky Mountains (Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg, and Sevier County) have increased dramatically given the influx of new investors attracted by the double digit cash on cash returns, equity appreciation, and a stable regulatory environment.
We really like investing the Smoky Mountains because the last thing you want to do is buy a property and have the laws change on your which limit your ability to execute your business plan.
I hope this help.
I created this brief presentation over the weekend for some of my friends and family here in New York that are interested in buying cabins in the Smokys. I hope you find it helpful.
Post: Gatlinburg STR restrictions/zoning

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@William Eric
Hi William. I’m curious to learn more about what you found. The inventory is so low right now; it’s really smart to create your own inventory by developing.
Post: My first Short Term rental property

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@Wala Habiby
Congrats! A cabin for 130k all in is an amazing basis in this environment.
Post: STR in Hot Springs, AR?

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Agreed with David's comments. We've analyzed many of traditional vacation rental markets in the US and the Smoky Mountains (Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg, Sevier County) offers a great combination of a double digit cash flow, equity appreciation, and a stable regulatory environment. I hope you find it helpful and best of luck on your purchase.
Post: Looking at buying my first rental.

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I agree with Daniel's comment above. The cabin prices in Smoky Mountains (Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg, and Sevier County) have increased dramatically given the influx of new investors attracted by the double digit cash on cash returns, equity appreciation, and a stable regulatory environment.
We really like investing the Smoky Mountains because the last thing you want to do is buy a property and have the laws change on your which limit your ability to execute your business plan.
I hope this help.