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All Forum Posts by: Tyler Erickson

Tyler Erickson has started 6 posts and replied 40 times.

Post: Non-Homestead Clarification on Rental

Tyler EricksonPosted
  • Appraiser
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 58

I can only speak in regards to Minneapolis, but a conversion fee is described by Minneapolis as a type of inspection fee: “When a dwelling is converted to rental property or has not had a license for the past 12 months, it must be inspected for compliance with the Housing Maintenance Code. The fee for this inspection is $1000.00.” - This also includes any residential multi-family. 

There are other stipulations, but this is a broad enough definition to assume that other outlying suburbs are similar.

Also, keep in mind that Minneapolis offers a $250 deduction off of the fee if you attend a rental property management course (in-person). 

Here is the site for further details. 

http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/inspections/rental/inspections_rentlicensefee

Post: Being an investor with a rough credit history

Tyler EricksonPosted
  • Appraiser
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 58

There are a lot of resources out there to get your credit up. 

First, don’t pay attention to Credit Karma or virtually any other credit system other than the official FICO scores. The others can be a good indicator to figure out if you’re on the right track, but they seem to use an entirely different algorithm that doesn’t necessarily reflect your “true” credit score. The vast majority of mortgage lenders use the FICO score. There’s an app for it. 

Also, look into companies that utilize your past/current rent payments to add an account to your credit report. A google search will give you decent results (I’m not sure if I’m supposed to advocate for other companies in the forums).

If you can, and if you trust yourself financially, a couple credit cards can help. Keep ~5% on them or so and pay at least the minimum payment every month. 

Lastly, you’re allowed to view all three versions of your official credit report once a year. It’s a law, now. Again, Google is your friend here. Once you have the credit report (I’d recommend only pulling one for now and the others as your credit score goes up), dispute any debts or missed payments that you think may be incorrect. 

There are a ton of little tricks out there, but the best thing you can do for yourself is pay your bills on time every month. It’ll take some time, but consistency and patience is the only ‘fool-proof’ way to boost your credit. 

Good luck! 

PS: Read success and financial books. Arm yourself with knowledge while you are preparing for investing. It also helps to keep you motivated and looking forward, not backward or second-guessing yourself. You got this! 💪

Originally posted by @Jeffrey Almonte:

@Tyler Erickson Great information! Thanks for being transparent about the source of the data and any biases.

 Absolutely. The source of the data is as important as the method of choosing what data is most important to present, which is a source of bias. I'm glad you found it interesting!

@Aaron Vaughn Absolutely. I agree completely. It's the rental unit version of diversifying your portfolio. It's weather/shock-resistant, especially compared to stocks. 

@Alina Trigub You're right about needing to avoid the assumption that secular markets will perform the same as the larger market that encompasses it. It's important to remember that larger trends can be indicative of what direction individual markets will take, but there are so many variables that affect the final outcome (whatever that may be). And usually, these properties are located within many markets. Regulations constrain markets, but they vary in size and can be contained within each other (federal regulations -> state regulations -> county regulations -> local regulations -> HOA's, for example). And of course, markets aren't only limited to their regulatory constraints, but they can be regional and so forth. So yes, I 100% agree with you that each individual property should be assessed prior to blindly trusting broader trends.

@Jonathan Twombly Much appreciated! 

Yes, absolutely. It's important to keep your feet firmly planted on the ground. That doesn't always mean pessimism, but it prevents overreaching or taking speculative risks. And yes, NIMBYism is horrifically ubiquitous, to be honest. Spot on. 

I also agree with your point about the psychology of investing. I studied economics and sociology and it's so interesting how tied together they are. In a very simple and reductive sense, stocks are a quantified analysis of the perspective people collectively have of the health of the economy (and individual companies). But for some reason, it's human nature to let the negative far outweigh the positive. If you asked ten people if your shirt looks good, 9 people could tell you look great but you're likely going to think about the one person that said it doesn't. This basic psychological behavior can be conflated and applied to many situations. Great point. 

Regarding crashes happening overnight... Do you see some value in the general appreciation that happens (usually), regardless of if there are buyers in the market at that given moment? In other words, I could buy an SFR, hold it for two years, then realize that there isn't a single buyer in my market for what I have to offer... Isn't there value in being able to hold it and maintain appreciation without losing the farm? Like what can happen in the stock market (and seems to do so every 10-15 years or so)? Granted, there can always be another 2008, but I'm just curious on your expansion on that.

@Ben Leybovich Amazing. Good for you! I'm looking forward to keeping up to date on your endeavors. I can't wait to be in the same position as you! 

@Jay Hinrichs That's very true. Materials, labor, and land are all going way up. The cash flow and margins dictate highest and best use most of the time for investors, so conservative builds don't happen as often as what would be "socially ideal". But there's a solution for every problem. Unfortunately, BP members aren't often in legislation and the seated legislators in large cities tend to have vastly different priorities than working to make affordable housing make financial sense to investors (compared to subsidization... And we all know how that goes). What class/areas are these apartments in? And what do you think is the greatest determining factor when it comes to getting them to cash flow? The cost of labor/materials? Regulatory measure protecting tenants?

@Paul B. It's huge. Many appraisers fear for the future because big data is slowly starting to replace the appraiser's opinion and legislative measures are following. Of course, I don't think it's nearly as dramatic as many make it seem, but it's still an important point of discussion. With enough data, aside from the physical inspection of a property and presumably the qualitative measures of a property, a relatively accurate algorithm can be produced to arrive at a value. Zillow currently does this and although it can be vastly inaccurate for many areas and properties, it tends to be relatively accurate in larger cities with simple structures that conform to the neighborhood. The range of estimated value tends to be tighter as the amount of comparables go up. It'll be interested to see what happens in the future, and that's only with the value side of things. Big data is going to take over our lives and in many ways, it already has. 

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Thank you for your input, everyone! I find your opinions invaluable. I haven't had a chance to enter the market as an investor yet, but these discussions give me a clear idea of what direction to head once I have the means. Thanks again! 

Most of us on these forums strongly consider multi-family to be a solid investment, but not everyone fully understands why. On the other hand, many people have fears over a stagnating economy... We can only go this hard for so long, right? Well, it seems that at least in some aspects of investing, we certainly can. 

Below are the cliffs for an article regarding multifamily investing that I believe most people will find interesting, whether you're in San Francisco, Minneapolis, Chicago, LA, or virtually any other place with a multifamily infrastructure in place (and even SFR's, honestly, but this article focuses on multifamily properties), you will benefit from this information.


Keep in mind, however. Data and trends seem to be the new snake oil of the 21st century. As anti-intellectual as that sounds, it's easy to grab a set of data points to argue your point, while ignoring other contributing factors that may or may not fully justify the point you're trying to make. As such, I am not making any strong assertions, I just want to share the data with those that find it interesting or pertinent. One of the sources is at the bottom... I can't post more than one link. 

General Information:

  • Workforce housing offers steady income streams that adjusts with inflation annually. 
  • Interest in high-quality rentals is increasing across all price points and regions, indicating a well-diversified inventory.
  • Homeownership rate across all ages is near historic lows.
  • In half of all counties nationwide, it is now cheaper to rent than buy. 
  • All forms of housing assets report low availability and high pricing. 
  • Older adults are divorcing more frequently while younger adults are postponing marriage more than previous generations.
    • Both of these factors are positive indicators for the rental economy.
  • Wealth and income gains have not kept up with housing costs.
  • Wealth accumulation models seem to be changing; net worth is shifting from property ownership to defined contribution (DC) plans. 
  • Multifamily housing for low/median earners actually outperformed the overall multifamily market for four years straight.
    • Can be attributed to low vacancy rates and above-average rent growth. 


The Numbers:

  • Occupied US rentals rose by 20 percent above the prior 10-year period.
    • This growth is unprecedented. 
  • Student loan debt stands at $1.5 trillion, inducing an average millennial net worth of less than $0. 
  • Over the next decade, the US is poised to add more than 10 million new households.
  • 500,000 new rental households per annum through 2025. 
  • Total housing units in 2018: 120 million
    • 65% by owner (77 million)
    • 35% renter households (43 million)
  • Currently, 24% of U.S. renter households spend more than 50 percent of their annual income on housing. 
  • 30% are cost-burdened, according to HUD.
  • Approximately 13.5 million households are "renters by necessity".
  • Workforce housing (low/median earners) has brought in $375 billion in investment over the last five years.
    • More than 51% of the total for all multifamily asset classes.
    • Despite this investment, only a "small" amount of workforce housing has been built in the last 10 years, with investors usually opting for luxury rentals. 
  • Approximately 100,000 units are removed per year due to obsolescence - predominately workforce and affordable housing units.

Going forward:

  • Rehab and value-add approaches seem to be most favorable, particularly in high-cost and high-growth metros and submarkets. 
  • Entry-level rental housing will likely see the strongest growth as millennials leave their homes
    • 30% of millennials currently live with family, yet are the primary renter base. 
  • Large opportunity to provide quality, moderately-priced rental housing in densely populated areas. 
  • Low-cost rentals are largely unavailable, despite high-demand. 
  • There may be opportunity in rural areas, as well, to increase supply of moderately-priced housing due to high demand.
  • Rent growth is higher than income growth, which may present a financial limit to workforce housing cash-flow.
  • Overall, there's plenty of opportunity for both preserving existing and building new workforce housing. 

Thoughts?

NREI - Why U.S. Apartment Rentals Will Continue to be a Good Investment Choice

Post: Online Real Estate Training

Tyler EricksonPosted
  • Appraiser
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 58

McKissock is a great resource. Kaplan is also very trustworthy. But I'd recommend McKissock for the user-friendly aspect of it. They are running some sort of promotion for 20% off (LAUNCH20 code), so the basic package starts at $479 (Minnesota - not sure if it varies from state to state). Then there is a $526 package, $612, and $707. It's up to you which one you prefer. They also have a membership option for $146/year (again, in Minnesota) that gives you a bundle of resources and continuing education packages. I'll post a link below to the resource for the prices. 

I don't make any money off of you choosing McKissock and am not affiliated in any way. I just like their website and customer support. Good luck! 

McKissock MN Package Prices

Post: "Double-Dipping" in Real Estate Professions?

Tyler EricksonPosted
  • Appraiser
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 58

@Scott Jensen Must appreciated! I love all aspects of real estate and it genuinely excites me. I wake up, spend all day, and go to bed thinking about it. 

I expect to utilize the BRRRR method, once I am able to get financing. I'm just starting on this journey and it takes a little time to build the foundation. But I'm close and can't wait to get started. You're right, though. The best way to learn is to get thrown into the middle of it (that's a little dramatic, but you get my point I'm sure). Are you doing a full rehab? Or is it more cosmetic? Add-on value is what I'm all about... Are you utilizing any strategies regarding that aspect of it, as well?

@Tim Swierczek It's always good to hear from you! After looking into it a little bit, I agree with your assertion that it might be a waste to get my inspector's license... It's a bit unnecessary and like Scott alluded to above, most of what I will learn regarding the "physical" aspect of real estate investing will be learned while I'm rehabbing a property. It's an interesting though, however, to think about getting into construction... I have experience with residential construction, but it was when I was younger and I didn't learn many of the more technical aspects of it. Still, the exposure was great. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I'll have the time to work in construction to get that experience. Still, it's a thought worth processing. 

And that's great to hear that you're aware of some appraiser/realtors. It seems that it won't be a major issue, as long as I'm transparent and remain ethical, but I just wanted to run it by the BP community. 

Thank you both for your input! 

Post: "Double-Dipping" in Real Estate Professions?

Tyler EricksonPosted
  • Appraiser
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 58

Hello all! 

I am currently preparing myself to purchase my first multifamily property in Minnesota, and will proceed after I've solidified my financial position a bit more (I already have a lender and an agent I'll be using, if that's pertinent to anyone out there). 

However... I am perusing the idea of widening my breadth of knowledge in real estate, and hopefully I'll set myself up with multiple streams of income before I start receiving passive income from my future investments.

I currently work in a commercial real estate valuation firm as an analyst after years of working in residential real estate (on the appraising end of things). Eventually, I will be getting my Certified General Appraiser license, which will allow me to get an MAI and be able to take on commercial work independently, if I desire. 

As for right now, I'm in a bit of a transitionary period (injury) and have a few months to sit around and work on my computer. So I am planning on getting my real estate agent's license and representing buyers/sellers. I have several friends that will be investing soon, so it should pay off this year, even if I don't pursue it further than that. This benefits me in the sense that I will be able to save some money as I buy and sell my own investments in the future, although I will be using a very experienced agent for the first couple properties so I can get a handle on things. 

I'm also debating on getting my home inspector's license. I have some background in construction, but not nearly enough to make this a profession. So it'd be purely for my own knowledge and benefit as I invest going forward. Being able to tell the difference between a cosmetic blemish and a full-blown, $25,000 problem is a valuable skill, in my opinion! 

Thoughts? Would a broker see any potential conflicts of interest or issues with me working as an appraiser (commercial) and attempting to become an agent? I've never heard of an appraiser that also works as a realtor, but many have their realtor's license for a variety of reasons. So I know it's done regularly, I just don't know anyone that has developed it into a full-on side hustle like I intend to do. 

Is a home inspector's license worth it, if it's just for the benefit of the knowledge of it? Or would it be better to take some classes at a local community college in the field of home inspections or code inspections, disregarding the "license" aspect of it? 

Any other ideas that may be beneficial to someone in my position? I'm just interested in being diversified with my education in real estate, keeping in mind that it's virtually all going to be used to invest in real estate... And I am very non-discriminatory about what I'll invest in. Whether it's a posh, 110 unit apartment complex, a strip mall, a mobile home park, or a standard SFR; I am open to it all.

Thanks in advance! 

Post: Minneapolis 2040 - how does this affect your plans?

Tyler EricksonPosted
  • Appraiser
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 58

@Bruce Runn I think you may have taken my comment as more of a dire warning than it was intended. It was simply to provide a perspective from the valuation side of the equation, since that was on topic. Of course, this will mean good things for a lot of people. But it's worth it to recognize that most appraisers have very different opinions when it comes to appraising unique properties. I haven't checked to see if there have been many ADU properties sold in the past year or so in the Minneapolis area, so it may be a non-issue, but it's always worth it to keep in mind that an appraiser is paid to formulate a data-driven opinion (opinion being the operative word here). When unique appraisal problems exist, so do many different perspectives as to how to solve them.

Of course, it’s up to each person. I’m just trying to provide insight and something to think about, that’s all.

Have a good rest of your day!

Post: Minneapolis 2040 - how does this affect your plans?

Tyler EricksonPosted
  • Appraiser
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 58

Just thought I'd chime in here. I'm on the valuation side of things (currently out of state, soon to be back home in the cities) and I'd be careful with ADU's. As others have pointed out, zoning can be interesting and may not allow for it to be rented out at all, let alone if you intended to cash flow on the primary dwelling as well as an accessory unit.

The problem with ADU's is how uncommon they tend to be in most areas, resulting in fewer comparable properties. The problem with this is that you get less "bang for your buck" if an appraiser uses a single dwelling multi-family as a comp (such as using a triplex to compare a duplex with an accessory unit). And this makes sense intuitively. Would it be more expensive to put up a few walls and an exterior door, or build an entire new dwelling with four (or more) exterior walls, as well as literally everything else involved in building a dwelling to code? This is a simple way of looking at it, but I'm trying to illustrate my broader point.

In more complex appraisals like this, there is the added variable that every appraiser has a different level of skills, knowledge, experience, and a vast array of different perspectives on the best way to value you a property. You should see the arguments that ensue in the appraiser forums. Lol So keep in mind that just because you may have received a conditional ARV, a different appraiser may have a totally different idea as to how to approach the appraisal problem later on. And if someone sold even one SFR or MF with an ADU in the area for a low value, it could make your ARV plummet. They're rare enough that a close, local ADU comp will probably always be utilized in a market that has few. This could also work in your favor, of course, if someone was able to sell an ADU property for a comparatively high price. From an investor perspective, I'd recommend that you try to find sold ADU comparables that are superior in quality, GLA, room count, bed/bath count, etc. in the primary unit. If you intend to build an ADU and sell the property, a superior comp will pull your value up. As I said, it'll almost definitely be used (I can't guarantee anything, of course). And when you build the ADU, don't put too much extra into it because these variables can almost never be supported, unless the market has a whole lot of primary dwellings with ADU's sold in the past year. Always keep in mind that the appraiser needs to be able to defend their opinion with actual data (USPAP regs), otherwise they cannot usually make an adjustment.

This doesn't mean it's a bad idea, however. Some lenders/cities have issues with putting up a single, giant wall to partition a SFR to a MF, for example, so it could be much safer to simply build an accessory unit. Keeping in mind the potential legal consequences of renting out an accessory unit without living in the primary dwelling, it could be a great option for cash flow (especially if you want to maintain your autonomy but have someone else pay your mortgage) and an added bonus to differentiate your property from others in a major way when it comes to selling the property. The ARV is only half the battle. Making people love the property as they walk through it is the other half.

It was long, I know, but this is a multifaceted issue. To be more concise, I see it as slightly riskier and more volatile than converting a SFR to a MF, or an existing MF to include more units, due to the typical lack of market data. But for cash flow purposes, it could be a strong option.