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All Forum Posts by: Tyler Warrick

Tyler Warrick has started 0 posts and replied 83 times.

Post: Does this lending product exist?

Tyler WarrickPosted
  • Lender
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 48
Quote from @Richard Helppie-Schmieder:
Quote from @Tyler Warrick:

I have a lender who can waive up front lender points by taking a higher rate. This is usually the option my clients go when they know they'll be out of the HML in 6 months or less as it reduces their cash to close up front. You'll be seen as an experienced investor with your 5 exits (assuming they've been completed within the last 36 months).

I'm in San Angelo, TX so about 4 hours away from Dallas. However, I'm confused on your $68k out of pocket request and $100k out of pocket request. Can you please clarify this?


 Hey! Yes, let me try to put a timeline on this....

Purchase + Rehab for $468,000
Rate and Term Refinance out at 80% of $500,000 ARV
Total loan amount is now $400,000
Total out of pocket costs is $68,000 (plus various fees of course)

I want to do the purchase plus rehab for 80% LTV, but not really finding any lenders that can do this. I have done around 50 deals, but only 5 with this model. Typically I use commercial lending which is 20% down on LTC regardless of ARV in most cases which would equate to around $90,000 and I want to drive that number down. I thought there may be a non-QM loan out there that can do this.


 Would you be opposed to moving the money around? Just trying to get creative here.

$308k purchase, ideally 15% down, with rehab budget of $112k (ARLTV at 75%).

This way you put $46,200 down plus closing costs on the HML.

Then you're DSCR RT refinancing at 74% LTV (better pricing, and gives you the extra cash to work on the rehab, just not financed through the HML).

Thoughts?

Hey @Hemanth Grandhige! First off, congrats on the portfolio you've built; seems like you've bought correctly.

When structuring cash out refinances, you'll always get the best rates if your LTVs are 60% or less. Pair that with a great credit score and you'll see rates in the mid to high 6's (assuming DSCR loans). The higher the leverage, the higher the rate.

I'm glad to hear you'll be shopping around. Brokers are definitely the way to go as they have access to wholesale rates and a vast program selection. That being said, lenders in general can only control the lender fees (if working with a broker, their origination fee). Brokers can charge between 0 and 2.75 points of the loan amount. I'd say standard for most brokers is 2 points on these types of loans. Myself, I charge 1.5 for new clients to stay competitive and typically work with my clients on repeat business.

Hope this helps!

Great question! There are three main types of residential financing out there.

Agency loans: Conventional, FHA, VA and USDA

NonQM loans: DSCR, 1099, Bank Statement, P&L, Asset utilization etc

HML/PML: Bridge, fix/flip

Most investors who are looking to do value add go with a HML/PML as the lender only cares if the deal makes sense (Is there ample equity in the deal if the investor cannot complete the project, will the value be supported after the project is complete). These types of loans are available to simply acquire the property and are short term in nature (6-24 months). If an investors wants to flip, they sell. If an investor wants to hold, they refinance into one of the other types of loans.

Hope this helps!

Post: Seller Financed Refi Questions

Tyler WarrickPosted
  • Lender
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 48

It would be seen as a rate and term transaction, and your client would have to pay lender fees, third party fees and escrows. However all of these fees would be able to be rolled into the loan. 

If you google, "how much are closing costs" you'll get a result from Rocket Mortgage (most expensive lender) stating the fees could range from 3-6% of the property's value. 

If your client has good credit, I would assume this would be closer to the 2-3% range in NY.

Post: Does this lending product exist?

Tyler WarrickPosted
  • Lender
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 48

I have a lender who can waive up front lender points by taking a higher rate. This is usually the option my clients go when they know they'll be out of the HML in 6 months or less as it reduces their cash to close up front. You'll be seen as an experienced investor with your 5 exits (assuming they've been completed within the last 36 months).

I'm in San Angelo, TX so about 4 hours away from Dallas. However, I'm confused on your $68k out of pocket request and $100k out of pocket request. Can you please clarify this?

@Ray Hage might be a great resource to connect with. He does this in FL market and might be able to give you tips/tricks.

Post: Rental Properties & Trust

Tyler WarrickPosted
  • Lender
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 48
Quote from @Earl Morris:

Not sure what either of you (@Jonathan Bock @Chris Seveney) are referring, but I had general questions and I appreciate @Tyler Warrick for addressing them.

As a retired service member and current executive, I've owned many homes, but never more than 2 at a time. Listening to BP podcast they mentioned the importance of protecting your assets and provided insights on Trust. They also continually mention how you can come to these forums for valuable insight.

Assuming I have some nefarious intent by replying with a condescending "WHY", or it's as simple as a fourth down play (while not addressing my question) has made my journey here disappointing.

I'll leverage rich content within this site and stir clear of commenting in the forums. Thanks for the welcoming experience.


 This is disappointing to see that your first experience in the forums was negative. It shouldn't be that way, and your feelings are valid. I wish there were moderators in these forums.

Post: Out of state investing for Californians

Tyler WarrickPosted
  • Lender
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 48
Quote from @Ashni Modi:
Quote from @Tyler Warrick:

Well done on the $100k saved up! Unpopular opinion, but Texas. I have more clients from CA either moving to TX (saving on state income tax) or purchasing rental properties in TX than any other state.

The state does come with it's headaches (cash out refinance rules, higher property taxes etc), but there is no dispute in the growth in various cities. I don't care what your political affiliation is (believe it or not this comes up a lot with my investors), but a LOT of people are gung-ho on Texas as a state and lots of businesses are migrating there as well.

Strategies can include buying properties near: major businesses/plants and colleges. There shouldn't be a shortage of people who have money and need a place to live. 


 Is buying a new construction a safer strategy considering I am starting out? Is it possible to have a positive cash flow? I am seeing a lot of incentives from builders


 Ahh the dreaded question for a loan officer! Transparently speaking, yes, most builders lenders will offer insane incentives. For reference, I purchased a new build in 11/2023 (to give you perspective). However there are always things to watch out for: Builders cannot build quick enough now (demand is too high), so a lot of them cut corners; if you have a highly skilled agent they can go to bat for you/keep an eye on the builder as you are out of state. But on the positive side, no lender in the country can compete when the builder offers a 20-30k seller credit just for using their lender.

Now, I'm sure you're a smart fellow and understand the addage, "there's no such thing as a free lunch." This holds true in these new build scenarios. The builder typically owns the mortgage company (51/49 percent split) as well as the title company. So they are triple dipping in profit on your deal -- they typically bake in the incentive (whether it's a $5k incentive or a $30k incentive) into the sales price. But again, even I went with a new build as there are always pros and cons.

That being said, some of my clients go with the existing build route, as they know the previous owners typically have already made the necessary repairs/updates that the builder skipped out on. 

Hope this perspective helps!

Post: Rental Properties & Trust

Tyler WarrickPosted
  • Lender
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 48
Quote from @Earl Morris:

Thanks, @Tyler Warrick The real estate attorney is also an estate planner, so that is helpful to know.


@Jonathan Bock because this is a general forum and I was hopeful someone like Tyler would help me with my general, yet direct questions above. If you can and are willing to help, great! If not, that's cool too. 


 Happy to help! Best of luck, my friend. 

I would 100% run these questions through your RE Attorney, but if you're looking to be best protected I would venture to say one property per trust/LLC (however your RE Attorney might suggest this is overkill).

Quote from @Jessie Dillon:
Quote from @Tyler Warrick:
Quote from @Jonathan Bock:

@Jessie Dillon

Another "it depends" personally I prefer an open credit line and at least 3 months in reserves for my own comfort.  


 Love this. As a house hacker, it is amazing to purchase the home and 6 months before you intend on purchasing the next home to get a line of credit. This doesn't mean you have to use it, but the "oh ****" fund comes in handy if the wrong renter/life happens. I'm sure most financial advisors would second this.

Depending on area and how quickly a home can be rented out, I think 3 months is very fair to have in actual reserves. If no line of credit is established, I would personally go closer to 6 months.


However, if someone would rather purchase rental properties (instead of house hacking) I think it depends on goals. I have clients who only care about cash flow, and I have others who focus on long term growth/appreciation. Unpopular opinion: I think this question should be answered by Financial Advisors instead of Lenders (and that's coming from me, a lender).


 great point about getting an answer from a financial advisor vs. a lender!


 Totally! Lenders are great, but at the end of the day we gotta stay in our lane. A lot of my business comes from Financial Advisors because I understand that principal and a tool in their tool belt.