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All Forum Posts by: Walt Payne

Walt Payne has started 18 posts and replied 785 times.

Post: Appraiser Using the Subject Property as a Comparable

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  • Sebastian, FL
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I have not heard of doing that (not an appraiser) but it sounds like the logic the city of Philadelphia used for tax appraisal. I'm not sure if they still do it, but the first three years of appraisals were based off of the sale price. If you paid that amount it was hard to deny the value being at least that. The logic here might be a reverse of that, stupid as that would sound.

Post: #14 is here, with creative financing

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  • Sebastian, FL
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Congratulations. Great buy!

Post: BEWARE WHEN SHOWING PROPERTY!! ARKANSAS AGENT MISSING!

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Another suggestion I have seen is to arrive early. Use your cell phone to text a picture of their car (and include them, if possible) to yourself. This provides a record that will be found, if needed. Wait in your car just long enough to be noticed, then apologize for the delay and tell them that your husband, or bf, insists that you send him a picture when meeting strangers, for safety reasons.

This will not 100% protect anyone, but it greatly reduces the risk since it increases the chance of them being caught. 

Post: Tax Consequences When Selling Personal Residence

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@Jacob Patterson You should not be paying SET on all of the income, anyway. I am not an accountant, but you need to ask about using a LLC that is taxed as an S-Corp for flipping. Only a "reasonable salary" need be taxed at SET rates.

Lots of other things you can do to reduce even that, such as having a self directed 401K. Talk to a real estate savvy CPA quick, before the end of the year hits and it is too late!

Post: Entrepreneur at heart...looking for a new start

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@Steve Dorman 

Flips are lucrative but carry a certain amount of risk and a large amount of work. It also does not have the same tax advantages of other investments. 

Buy and hold is less risky but also a fair amount of work. But at least it does qualify as passive income and has tax advantages.

With the amount of cash you will have available why not look into one of the more passive investment platforms? Something like note investment, tax liens, or hard money lending. 

Post: 2% rule is bull

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@Martin S.  Others have said it, some implied it ... but attitude goes a long way toward effecting how helpful people are willing to be. And to be honest, yours sucks. Ask, then start doing, but whining and being obnoxious does not win friends or assistance.

Post: 2% rule is bull

Walt PaynePosted
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Originally posted by @Martin S.:

When people want to sell their house, they go to a real estate agent. How is marketing going to help me? I've always saw those "We Buy Houses, for CASH" signs as BS, just dirt bags trying to rip people off. I'm sure 99.9% of people willing to sell their house would list it on MLS. Wholesalers are probably those dirt bags, trying to rip the next person off, yes I've gotten a list of properties from a wholesaler, and I could have done much better on the MLS, their prices were just stupid.

Whats driving for dollars?

People wanting to sell a house for RETAIL list on MLS. People NEEDING to sell a house with issues sell to wholesalers, flippers and investors.

And FYI wholesalers come in all types, just like any other profession. Some are skilled, and provide value, some don't. Some know what they are doing, some don't. Many threads about that.

Post: 2% rule is bull

Walt PaynePosted
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Originally posted by @Martin S.:

So HOW do I look, other than on MLS? Cuz me and 99% of the world doesn't know how to search other than MLS listed properties, ok maybe there are some on craigslist, who knows...

 Marketing. Wholesalers. Driving for dollars. Be creative. 

Have you looked in Palm Bay? 2% is possible there. Not beautiful stuff but there are decent neighborhoods with reasonable priced properties. Just check them out first.

Post: Flipping Vs Holding - What do you think ?

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@Steve Vaughan  I agree totally. It was the blanket generalization that Flipping = bad, hold = good that I disagree with. Both have their place, both have their risks.

Post: Is it unethical to say "I Buy Houses" if You are a wholesaler?

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Originally posted by @Jeremy T.:

Thanks to @Brandon Turner  for firing up the wholesalerhatemobile this week. While redundant, it’s always an entertaining read.

Just to play devil’s advocate here for a minute. 

Where, pray tell, do the fix-and-flippers (you know, the scant handful of them without all of the time, energy, money for marketing, marketing savvy, salesmanship, etc.) going to find their projects if they do not have an intermediary to provide that to them for a fee? 

Do they just fall out of the sky? 

Are there countless numbers of virtuous agents lining up to provide them with rehab candidates at 60% (or less) of ARV?

These threads get hung up on the VAST minority of ’wholesalers’ who suck at their job (and probably life) and gloss over the fact that there are a lot of people (and, yes, those right here on BP) who provide a very valuable service to facilitate further deals down the line. 

@Aaron Mazzrillo  makes an excellent point when he says (not here, but in interviews/podcasts) that wholesaling is actually near the pinnacle of real estate investing skills.

Agreed. And I find it ironic that two of the strategies that require the most knowledge and investment to do it right, wholesaling and flipping, are the ones touted by gurus as the best to get into with no money and no skills.