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Is this a good deal? Cash on Cash Rate? Annualized Total Return

Tonya Thompson
Posted Jul 24 2018, 06:33

Hi Newbie Here

Considering purchasing a 3br 2 bath  (1136 sq feet) to rent in the Texas area (rural area near Beaumont, TX)

Price = $59900

Down Payment = 10% (through finance company listing it for sale)

Interest rate = 6% (through the finance company listing it for sale)

No closing costs

Property Tax = $986/year

Mgmt Fee = 10% of rent

Home Insurance = $1100/year

We would rent the house for $900 to $1000/month

This would be our first investment property. House is in good condition. No major repairs needed. 

Is this a good deal?

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Joe Hines
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Replied Jul 24 2018, 08:05

Hey Tonya,

Just by eyeballing it, I'd say it was okay.  I'd recommend using the Bigger Pockets Calculator:  https://www.biggerpockets.com/buy-and-hold-calcula...

It does a decent job of breaking down the cost and income variables and calculating the key performance measures for real estate investment.  When using the calculator, be realistic with your costs as there are a lot of things newbies tend to overlook or underweight and then they find themselves with an underperforming property.

So some advice about calculating the financials:

Initial Costs: Even though you don't have any repair costs, include maybe $1K for paint or incidentals.  I also set aside 3% of the purchase price into a Capital Expense account.  For your property, that means about $4K of initial costs.  You might be able to get away with far less than $1K depending on the condition of the property, but I've seen few bank or finance company owned properties that didn't need something such as a big yard cleanup, trees removed, paint, carpet, etc.    

Vacancy:  Depends on your market, but I usually go with 5% vacancy.  Using this number, the calculator will subtract 5% of your rent as lost revenue due to vacancy.

Capital Repairs: I set aside 10% of rent into a savings account (which I put the 3% of purchase price mentioned above) to cover capital costs, such as roofs, refrigerators, etc.  I know it sounds like a lot, especially when you are starting out.  Trust me.  You'll use it.  

Other costs:  You'll need to decide if you'll take care of yard work or if you're going to let the tenants do it (they'll expect a rent discount).  Opinions will vary on this question, but I cover the costs and build it into the rent.  It keeps the property looking good and tenants are just like anybody else:  Nobody wants to mow grass on the weekend, especially if it isn't your grass.  

Rent increases:  The calculator lets you factor in increases in rent.  Be realistic about this and follow-through when you include a number.  Depending on the property, I use a figure like 2% annual increases for the model.  

Other cost increases:  Inflation effects all things and that means your costs will gradually rise every hear.  Like the other inputs, be realistic.  I use 1% or 2% to account for inflationary increases.  

With these inputs, the calculator will generate some important metrics, including Cash-on-Cash Return, Net Operating Income (NOI) and Monthly Cash Flow and Cap Rate. These numbers will help give you a sense of the feasibility of your investment.

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Jim Cummings
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Replied Jul 24 2018, 09:24

@Tonya Thompson. You say it's in a rural area. You may have no competition or no one wanting to rent in a rural area! 

All else being equal - I would prefer suburban area.

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Aaron Rowzee
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Replied Jul 25 2018, 03:42
Originally posted by @Tonya Thompson:

Hi Newbie Here

Considering purchasing a 3br 2 bath  (1136 sq feet) to rent in the Texas area (rural area near Beaumont, TX)

Price = $59900

Down Payment = 10% (through finance company listing it for sale)

Interest rate = 6% (through the finance company listing it for sale)

No closing costs

Property Tax = $986/year

Mgmt Fee = 10% of rent

Home Insurance = $1100/year

We would rent the house for $900 to $1000/month

This would be our first investment property. House is in good condition. No major repairs needed. 

Is this a good deal?

 Tonya, I work, invest, and live in the area. Can you be more specific as to it location, major cross streets nearby, or zip code? I can help you nail down it's actual rent value and demand.

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Replied Jul 25 2018, 04:45

Rural properties generally have higher vacancy rates. Go with 8-10% to be safe.

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Replied Jul 25 2018, 04:57

My two cents...don't worry about whether or not someone here tells you something is a "good deal" or not. You need to decide what works for you, your family and your financial situation and develop buying criteria based on that. I know your first deal is nerve wracking, but if you educate your self and buy based on the criteria that works for you, you'll be fine. Move forward in confidence, go get em!

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Michael Ehmann
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Replied Jul 25 2018, 05:10

How confident are you in the rent rates?

Also for property management: many companies charge a placement fee for tenants, which, depending on your turnover, could increase the real cost of management to 15+%.

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Tonya Thompson
Replied Jul 25 2018, 06:20
@ Aaron R - it’s the Silsbee Texas area around Kirby street

Originally posted by @Aaron Rowzee:
Originally posted by @Tonya Thompson:

Hi Newbie Here

Considering purchasing a 3br 2 bath  (1136 sq feet) to rent in the Texas area (rural area near Beaumont, TX)

Price = $59900

Down Payment = 10% (through finance company listing it for sale)

Interest rate = 6% (through the finance company listing it for sale)

No closing costs

Property Tax = $986/year

Mgmt Fee = 10% of rent

Home Insurance = $1100/year

We would rent the house for $900 to $1000/month

This would be our first investment property. House is in good condition. No major repairs needed. 

Is this a good deal?

 Tonya, I work, invest, and live in the area. Can you be more specific as to it location, major cross streets nearby, or zip code? I can help you nail down it's actual rent value and demand.

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Taylor Schooley
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Replied Jul 26 2018, 03:37

I too invest, work and live in the southeast Texas area. That area is an ok area. There is a high demand for rentals and property alone in Hardin county. Lots of displaced folks from the flood still. Also there is also the fact that Hardin county is becoming more desirable and we are seeing a population shift heading north from Jefferson county (see explosive growth of Lumberton, Texas.) Silsbee is a cheaper, more affordable place to live and rent but I see no reason why this shouldn't be rented steadily for the foreseeable future. Check with Michael Buffington. He is a realtor/ investor out that way. He can tell you what accurate rents will be and can give you an idea of the rental needs/ demands are currently.  As for the deal, its fair, but nothing that stands out. But if the numbers work for what you need then go for it. If it makes a buck then its making you money. Let me know if you need anything at all. Also, Aaron Rowzee knows his stuff. Great source of investment information and is very helpful/ friendly.    

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Aaron Rowzee
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Replied Jul 26 2018, 08:02

@Tonya Thompson are you familiar at all with the region? What city/state are you currently living in?