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Jason Mazza
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My First Property- Househacking in Metro Detroit at Age 23

Jason Mazza
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Posted Dec 27 2018, 13:25

This spring I purchased my first Duplex in Metro Detroit (Center Line) for 93k. After listening to the BP Podcasts for just over a year I finally jumped in at age 23 and bought a duplex with a 5% down owner occupied loan. I did about 12k worth of rehab including a new kitchen, bath and refinished hardwood floors. After completing the rehab, I moved into the upper 1 bedroom unit and posted the lower unit on Zillow, hotpads, etc. I was surprised to get many hits on my posts within the first day at $925 a month (almost 1% rule with only 1 of the units rented)! With my PITI totaling $720 and managing the property myself, I am comfortably getting paid to live! Within a few months, I plan to move out and rent the upper unit and get another small multi with an OO loan once I hit the 12-month mark.

Once both units are rented and I pass it off to property management, here are what the stats will look like assuming 7% Capex, 7% vacancy, 10% PM, 5% repairs:

COC: 18%

Monthly Cash Flow: $300

ARV: $125000

Special thanks to BP User Bill Goodland for your coaching during the entire process. Also, to the BP team for the Michigan State-Specific LL forms.

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Nick Rutkowski
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Nick Rutkowski
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Replied Dec 27 2018, 13:41

@Jason Mazza Fantastic job man! Glad to see you are able to get into the game. 

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Bill Goodland
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Bill Goodland
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Replied Dec 27 2018, 13:43

@Jason Mazza congrats bro! Just goes to show that if you can do it, anyone can!

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Gary Carver
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Gary Carver
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Replied Dec 27 2018, 14:00

@Jason Mazza  Congrats. Continue to work Your  plan. 

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Tchaka Owen
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Tchaka Owen
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Replied Dec 27 2018, 14:31

@Jason Mazza - great job, man! Keep it up and before you know it you'll have a sweet portfolio.

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Sean Tabor
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Sean Tabor
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Replied Dec 28 2018, 05:29

Rock on Dude! looking forward to hearing you on the Podcast!

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Drew Brown
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Drew Brown
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Replied Dec 28 2018, 05:55

@Jason Mazza way to go. Keep your head down and keep trudging and sooner than you know it you will be financially free!

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Vincent Harris
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Vincent Harris
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Replied Dec 28 2018, 06:02

@Jason Mazza Congratulations man good job getting started! How did you find this deal? 

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Bjorik Mutize
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Bjorik Mutize
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Replied Dec 28 2018, 10:51

@Jason Mazza congrats man! And agree with the above post, how did you find this property?

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Jason Mazza
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Jason Mazza
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Replied Dec 28 2018, 10:58

@Bjorik Mutize @Vincent Harris I found it using the realtor.com. After I ran my analysis on the property, I noticed that one of the agents I had worked with in the past was the seller’s agent so I sent her a text and saw it the next day. I was able to get the property for $7000 under asking.

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Vincent Harris
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Vincent Harris
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Replied Dec 28 2018, 11:22

@Jason Mazza Excellent! Brings it back to networking and building your circle really. How did you negotiate this deal for $7,000 off? 

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Jason Mazza
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Jason Mazza
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Replied Dec 28 2018, 11:57

@Vincent Harris The power of the network! Luckily the seller was motivated to sell the house because her closing on her next property was pending the sale of the one I bought. Since I was in no rush to purchase the home, I gave her the number that worked based on my conservative analysis and waited for her to come to me!

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Christian Hutchinson
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Christian Hutchinson
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Replied Dec 30 2018, 12:09
Originally posted by @Jason Mazza:

This spring I purchased my first Duplex in Metro Detroit (Center Line) for 93k. After listening to the BP Podcasts for just over a year I finally jumped in at age 23 and bought a duplex with a 5% down owner occupied loan. I did about 12k worth of rehab including a new kitchen, bath and refinished hardwood floors. After completing the rehab, I moved into the upper 1 bedroom unit and posted the lower unit on Zillow, hotpads, etc. I was surprised to get many hits on my posts within the first day at $925 a month (almost 1% rule with only 1 of the units rented)! With my PITI totaling $720 and managing the property myself, I am comfortably getting paid to live! Within a few months, I plan to move out and rent the upper unit and get another small multi with an OO loan once I hit the 12-month mark.

Once both units are rented and I pass it off to property management, here are what the stats will look like assuming 7% Capex, 7% vacancy, 10% PM, 5% repairs:

COC: 18%

Monthly Cash Flow: $300

ARV: $125000

Special thanks to BP User Bill Goodland for your coaching during the entire process. Also, to the BP team for the Michigan State-Specific LL forms.

 Might be tough to get a second mortgage.  Your rental income must be aged two years for it to count, so when doing Debt Income ratios now, they count $100% of the debt and 0% of the revenue.  Now if you purchased way under your maxvand you can find another home thats a duplex in a similar price-point keep rolling by all means

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Bala A.
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Bala A.
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Replied Dec 31 2018, 00:58

Congratulations, good work

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Keri Middaugh
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Replied Jan 1 2019, 11:17

Good work, @Jason Mazza!  If you need a hand in the western Wayne County or Washtenaw County, send me a PM.

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Jashan Mundi
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Jashan Mundi
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Replied May 2 2020, 20:43

That's awesome and good for you!

I'm looking to start house hacking in Windsor, Ontario (I'm Canadian). I'm wondering what type of tenant rented your bedroom? (e.x. student.)

I'd love to invest in the Detroit area in the future and am interested to hear the local demand for bedroom rentals.

Cheers,

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Israel Oble
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Replied May 3 2020, 00:31

Congrats! I've had huge hits on my rentals in Detroit through Zillow. My last rental had 50 inquires! That was just through Zillow alone. Apartments.com generated a few qualified leads too. 

IG:detroit_flipping

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Marlen Weber
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Replied May 6 2020, 18:51

congratulations on your first property, specially at such a young age. Keep up the great work. 

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Luke Marsh
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Replied May 9 2020, 14:36

Congrats @Jason Mazza! Have you been able to transition to the next phase of your plan yet, by renting out the additional unit, and adding another property?

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Jason Mazza
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Jason Mazza
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Replied May 9 2020, 15:05
Originally posted by @Jashan Mundi:

That's awesome and good for you!

I'm looking to start house hacking in Windsor, Ontario (I'm Canadian). I'm wondering what type of tenant rented your bedroom? (e.x. student.)

I'd love to invest in the Detroit area in the future and am interested to hear the local demand for bedroom rentals.

Cheers,

So far I've gotten one student and one couple who works locally. It seems like there is a ton of demand on facebook marketplace and zillow for affordable rentals. 

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Jason Mazza
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Jason Mazza
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Replied May 9 2020, 15:06
Originally posted by @Luke Marsh:

Congrats @Jason Mazza! Have you been able to transition to the next phase of your plan yet, by renting out the additional unit, and adding another property?

Hey Luke,

Recently I moved to a different city and was able to rent out the other unit and get the property under management. I will be looking for another property in the New York City metro area soon!