All Forum Posts by: Logan M.
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Post: Why I prefer Month to Month Leases

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Quote from @Alexa Davison:
I have switched from year long leases to M2M for many tenants and have had much better luck with it. My mobile home park has been undergoing some major renovations as well, such as freshly paved roads, updated septic system, fencing the property, and security cameras, on top of typical rehabs of each unit. Prospects actually seem to appreciate the offer of month to month because I advertise that since we are going through renovations, a non-binding lease does not make them feel hostage to a park under construction. It's a win-win situation all around. They don't feel stuck and pay as long as they'd like to stay, and as a property manager, I can provide a 30-day non-renewal in the case that they are bad tenants. You are absolutely right that you can never make anyone stay, leave, or pay if they don't want to.
Great approach, thanks for sharing. I would love to learn more about your park!
Post: Tips to avoid frozen pipes in your mobile home park

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It is that time of year and this Winter has been extra cold in America. I wanted to share a few quick tips that have saved me from frozen pipes and a lot of headaches.
My first tip is the most important, have your homes completely skirted all the way around. I have never had a fully skirted home freeze while habited by a tenant.
Second tip, keep your homes occupied. This is for a couple reasons one some water will be running regularly and two there will be heat.
Third, keep the heat on. Even for vacant units, I keep at 50 degrees at the lowest. The home must not get too cold.
The fourth is to use heat tape, this is pretty amazing stuff but it on;y works down to a certain temp so I would suggest not just relying on heat tape.
Fifth, hose bibs are one of the biggest issues because they expose your water line to the outside temps. Even in single-family homes, I have had hose bibs break. Ideally, you have a shut-off for it but if you don't make sure you buy one of those insulated boxes that can cover it up during the Winter months. Those are cheap and easy to use. I would suggest using the ones that are made out of foam and have an elastic tie piece vs an insulated back with velcro.
Six, leaving water dripping. This is a tried and true method. When water has movement it is less likely to freeze.
And seven, insulating the pipes. Especially, the pipes coming into the home. Many times the main pipe will freeze because it is overly exposed to outside temps and wind.
If you incorporate these tips into your Winter prep or Winter scramble trying to avoid frozen pipes and damage I am confident you will sleep better and avoid a lot of stress.
Bonus:
If your pipes do freeze a few tips are propane heaters. I have found that they work a lot faster than electric heaters and I don't feel comfortable using electric heaters outside with all the moisture. Make sure that the pipes are not broken because after they thaw you will have a lot of water coming out if that is the case.
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Post: Seller Financing Park Owned Homes

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I want to share a quick story about a community with park-owned homes. Many investors in this space avoid POHs but they can be incredibly profitable.
In March of 2020, I purchased a community in a good area with 9 spaces and a single-family home. The purchase price was $600,000.
After about two years I started selling financing the park-owned homes to the tenants. The range of payments for the seller-financed homes is $2,000-$2,330 per month. These are old homes, built in the 70's.
This example is a true story and I've been doing it in other communities we own just not for so much per month. What I have realized though is that I create a massive increase in cash flow over about 10 years and get the park to a position where I am just responsible for the ground and utilities.
Post: Onsite Handyman in Mobile Home Parks

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Quote from @Dave Rav:
Also sounds like a "side dish" of the inherited tenant on top of them being a handyman. Some tenants (not all) from the prior ownership can be a challenge. And out of the ones who are a challenge, the longer they've been there the more challenging they can be. Yes, this handyman's expectations appear to be based off his experience with the prior owner. Not always a good thing.
We had a tenant who used to get a reduction in their lot rent (from prior ownership) in exchange for filling pot holes in the Park's gravel road. When we took over, we quickly discontinued that "arrangement" as we foresaw all kinds of scenarios. This included: not performing the work, having to fight with them over what is acceptable job completion, and overall having to babysit the whole thing. Not worth it. So, we opted out.
Good move
Post: Onsite Handyman in Mobile Home Parks

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Quote from @Aman S.:
I am evicting the handyman from the last owner, my first-ever eviction in the park I owned for more than 5 years. Made all 4 above-mentioned mistakes. Pay them outside the rent, clear responsibilities list, and proper documentation, send them the accounting ledger monthly, and always ask someone else to verify the work.
They are always surprised when you start charging full rent. I also love when they just start trying to bill you for prior authorized work under the last owner, I have some great stories.
Post: Onsite Handyman in Mobile Home Parks

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There is a universal rule that you get a handyman from the last owner whenever you purchase a mobile home park. I have had a wide variety of outcomes but I want to give a few warnings from my experience.
1. Don't reduce rent, charge full rent, and pay them outside of the rent.
2. Set clear expectations, when the work will be completed, how often they do it, and what is the compensation.
3. They're not an employee and have no guarantee of work.
4. Avoid using someone who is not licensed or insured.
I have had a few handyman work great and many more that did not work out.
Post: Beware government costs and obiligations

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Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:
@Logan M. I think @Frank Rolfe has a course for managers, might not be the worst use of your time
The one I am referring to in my post is a state mandates managers course that you have to take through the state of Nevada.
Post: Snow Removal for small parks

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Quote from @Roger D Jones:
Quote from @Logan M.:
Quote from @Roger D Jones:
Are main streets being plowed by the City? Are neighborhoods being plowed by the City? We have rural park with no City services throughout the area yet residents expect us to plow the park. We don't do it.
Problem with hired services is you are the last guy on their list and by the time the get to you the snow is compact ice or melted.
I agree with you and it is tricky. I may make each person responsible for a certain area in front of their homes. Maybe I even get a good deal on snow shovels during the off-season and allow people to keep one.
Logan, I guess so much depends on where the park is located and the climate, city services, etc. If the city doesn't plow the roads around the park I am less inclined to pay to plow the park roads. It is tricky but you don't want to 'create' an annualized expense that may or may not make a significant difference for more than just a day or two.
I agree and will be making some changes
Post: Beware government costs and obiligations

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During due diligence for mobile home parks, it is impossible to make a 100% known decision.
One of the purchases I made this last year not only had all sources of business licensing but required us to go to an education course and get a certification to manage a mobile home park.
If you are willing to put in the work it may not be a huge deal but as you scale make an extra effort to know the differences between local and state laws. Being affordable housing means there are a lot of feelings about how manufactured home communities should operate.
The picture attached is the community that requires those licenses.

Post: Buying mobile home and renting land

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I agree with @Rachel H. a lot of short term opportunities turn into long term problems.